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Mikhail Gorbachev is dead (1931-2022)


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I’ll have a piece on Gorbachev soon, but this paragraph from Winter Is Coming sums up my thoughts. He was obliged to embark on perestroika as a last gasp to save the USSR and socialism. Gorbachev became an accidental hero in the West for failing.
 
 
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The misplaced adulation Gorbachev received and his current standing also draws proper respect away from Boris Yeltsin, who, for all his flaws as a statesman and person, was a democratic believer and fighter in his heart at key moments in history.
 
 
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Gorbachev endorsed Putin for a decade, and then his critiques of Putin’s destruction of democracy in Russia came well after the point when his voice might have made a difference in drawing international attention.
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Mikhail Gorbachev was the best thing ever happened to the Soviet Union, help brought down that "evil empire". Publicly admitted his parents were baptist by faith (unheard of by any Soviet leader). Usher in reforms. Bunch of clowns tried to oust him which led to the breakup and dissolution of the Soviet Union.  Goodbye and good riddance to it.  I liked Gorbachev.

Oh Putin still crying over his beloved past empire - boo hoo. 

 

Mikhail Gorbachev (1931-2022)

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/30/world/gorbachev-dead/gorbachev-is-lionized-by-the-west-and-reviled-by-some-in-russia

 

PS That was for real.

https://coub.com/view/1uohm

:lol:

 

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28 minutes ago, hamradio said:

Mikhail Gorbachev was the best thing ever happened to the Soviet Union, help brought down that "evil empire". Publicly admitted his parents were baptist by faith (unheard of by any Soviet leader). Usher in reforms. Bunch of clowns tried to oust him which led to the breakup and dissolution of the Soviet Union.  Goodbye and good riddance to it.  I liked Gorbachev.

Oh Putin still crying over his beloved past empire - boo hoo. 

 

Mikhail Gorbachev (1931-2022)

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/30/world/gorbachev-dead/gorbachev-is-lionized-by-the-west-and-reviled-by-some-in-russia

 

PS That was for real.

https://coub.com/view/1uohm

:lol:

 

But Putin hates the Soviet Union and he considers the Ukraine war a "de-communization" of the Ukraine because it was created by Lenin according to him.

https://huri.harvard.edu/news/serhii-plokhii-casus-belli-did-lenin-create-modern-ukraine

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/betrayal-of-the-left-ukraine-and-beyond-by-slavoj-zizek-2022-07?barrier=accesspaylog

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The Ukraine was there long before the Soviet Empire was formed after the 1918 revolution.  But didn't gain independence until that year as well.

Since Putin took office his goal seems to have been resurrection of the Soviet Union.   

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From wiki..

With the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Ukraine became an independent state, formalised with a referendum in December 1991. On 21 January 1990, over 300,000 Ukrainians organized a human chain for Ukrainian independence between Kyiv and Lviv. Ukraine officially declared itself an independent country on 24 August 1991, when the communist Supreme Soviet (parliament) of Ukraine proclaimed that Ukraine would no longer follow the laws of USSR and only the laws of the Ukrainian SSR, de facto declaring Ukraine's independence from the Soviet Union. On 1 December, voters approved a referendum formalizing independence from the Soviet Union. Over 90% of Ukrainian citizens voted for independence, with majorities in every region, including 56% in Crimea. The Soviet Union formally ceased to exist on 26 December, when the presidents of Ukraine, Belarus and Russia (the founding members of the USSR) met in Białowieża Forest to formally dissolve the Union in accordance with the Soviet Constitution. With this, Ukraine's independence was formalized de jure and recognized by the international community.

 

So if Ukraine should be reunited with Russia shouldn't we be with Great Britain?  Sounds fair.

If Russians wanted to remain there, need to abide by Ukrainian rules / laws otherwise go to Russia across the border. Yesteryear is yesteryear.

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Richard Nixon visited Moscow in April 1991 and prepared a memo to President Bush outlining his thoughts. He was strikingly prescient.

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Nixon called the current state of Russia rich in goods, but poor in spirit. Its people hadn’t seen much hope, as their horrifying past has been exposed by Glasnost, Gorbachev’s policy of political openness.

Nixon disagreed with the assessment of Kremlin watchers that the party secretary was cool under pressure, and a critical factor in influencing major events. He saw Gorbachev as “dead tired emotionally, mentally, and possibly physically” and unduly influenced by reactionaries who wanted to undo his earlier reforms.

Nixon’s view was that U.S. policy makers were disproportionately focused on arms control and not on encouraging reform within the federated republics. And while he believed in the devolution of power, he wanted to be sure that the rapidly declining relevance of the Soviet Empire wasn’t actually a dangerous degeneration toward isolation and instability as it would only encourage reactionaries — equipped with nuclear weapons — to pursue “a more belligerent foreign policy.”

 

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Funny thing is we didn't brought the Soviet Union down, they did it on their own.

Coup staged by Larry, Moe and Curly

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Russian army refuse to fire on their own people - the game was over.

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A new era began

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Love to been a fly on the wall when Putin wept like a toddler.

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