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my favorite dozen dusters, whats yours?


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if you love movies it follows you have to love westerns, right?

 

my 12 favorite presented here randomly:

1- TOMBSTONE (KOSTNER MUST HATE THIS ONE)

2- THE PROFESSIONALS ( WHAT A DREAM CAST THIS ONE HAS)

3- THE WILD BUNCH ( TONS OF VIOLENCE THAT ACTUALLY WORKS)

4-THE SEARCHERS ( THE DUKE SHOULD HAVE GOT THE OSCAR FOR THIS ONE)

5-RED RIVER ( HOLD UP TODAY AS WELL AS IT DID 50 YEARS AGO)

6-HONDO (LOUIS LAMORE STORY NUFF SAID)

7- MAN WITHOUT A STAR (GOOD CAST, GOOD STORY)

8- THE SHEEPMAN (GOOD WESTERN COMEDY WITH A SOLID CAST)

9-VERA CRUZ (STOIC GARY AND LARGER THEN LIFE BURT)

10-A GUNFIGHT ( A MOSTLY FORGOTTEN LITTLE GEM)

11-LONESOME DOVE ( ITS ALL BEEN SAID)

12-THE UNFORGIVEN (BURT LANCASTERS VERSION _NOT_ CLINTS)

 

 

Love to hear your comments on my list and would like a chance to see yours.

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I'll see your 12 and raise you 12 { All of Yours are Mine Favorites Also }

 

"Shane" { A Thing of Beauty }

"The Ox-Bow Incident" { Great "Wild Bill" Wellman and Henry Fonda }

"Rio Bravo" {Howard Hawks Return to Films with the Duke and Dude }

"My Darling Clementine" {Fords tribute to the OK Corral,Not accurate but ...}

"Fort Apache" {Ford Wayne Fonda and U.S Calvary,4 Aces }

"7 Men From Now" { Randy took over for Wayne and Created a Classic }

"Winchester 73" {First of Stewart / Mann Westerns A Big Winner }

"Stagecoach" { Ford Made Wayne a Star, Finally }

"Tall in the Saddle" {A Sexy Western for its Time, Great Fun }

"The Big Trail" { The Birth of John Wayne and an Epic Western }

"Dodge City" { A Big Slam Bang Western and Greatest Saloon Brawl }

"Blood on the Moon" { A Terrific Film Noir Western with Moody Mitchum}

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1&2, tie The Good The Bad & The Ugly & Once Upon A Time In the West

3. The Wild Bunch

4. McCabe & Mrs. Miller

5. Hombre

6. The Searchers

7. The Tall T

8. For A few Dollars More

9. Ride The high Country

10. The Ox Bow Incident

11. The Bravados

12. Man Of The West

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Howdy, stjohnrv!

 

if you love movies it follows you have to love westerns, right?

 

It sure enough does! :D

 

Interesting you have the John Huston's The Unforgiven in your top dozen. That

one tends to get overlooked. I've tried watching it many times but I still only respond

to parts of it, other aspects seem to go over my head. Which is not difficult. :)

 

So you like Vera Cruz better than Coop's High Noon or Man of the West? That's cool.

 

Here is my dozen:

 

1. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)

2. Three Bad Men (1926)

3. The Searchers (1955)

4. My Darling Clementine (1946)

5. Shane (1953)

6. The Horse Soldiers (1959)

7. Man of the West (1958)

8. High Noon (1950)

9. The Far Country (1954)

10. Stagecoach (1939)

11. The Wonderful Country (1959)

12. Invitation to a Gunfighter (1964)

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Mine are in order of preference:

 

1. Once Upon a Time in the West

2. The Wild Bunch

3. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

4. Shane

5. Destry Rides Again

6. For a Few Dollars More

7. High Noon

8. 3 Bad Men

9. The Searchers

10. Forty Guns

11. Johnny Guitar

12. Winchester '73

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Ok.

 

1. The Searchers

2. Red River

3. The Naked Spur

4. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

5. Shane

6. The Big Country

7. High Noon

8. Stagecoach

9. The Tin Star

10. She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

11. Colorado Territory

12. Last Train From Gun Hill

 

Guilty pleasures = "Silverado" and "Gunfight At The OK Corral."

 

This is probably different from the last time I did this.

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OK, a lot of titles have been mentioned already, but I'll give it a shot.

 

1. *Once Upon a Time in the West*

2. *The Good, the Bad and the Ugly*

3. *Rio Bravo*

4. *Forty Guns*

5. *Destry Rides Again*

6. *Winchester 73*

7. *Seven Men From Now*

8. *3:10 to Yuma* (original)

9. *The Big Country*

10. *Warlock*

11. *The Wild Bunch*

12. *My Name is Nobody*

 

I know, I know - there aren't any Ford westerns there, and for a reason: I tend to think of his movies more as Ford movies than anything else, if that makes any sense.

 

Also, I didn't include Lonesome Dove even though I've recently fallen in love with it, because I wanted to limit the list to classic movies, which is also the reason I didn't list Silverado.

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> {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote}

> I like it a lot mainly for Peck's character and his "fight" against the rest of the group but I don't think it is in the league of art that some of the others are.

 

I almost had it on my list, it's one of the first westerns I got into, along with The Far Country.

 

Now I do like Last Train from Gun Hill, too. That movie impressed me a lot. It's one of Douglas

and Quinn's best, in my opinion and the tension never really lets up. Carolyn Jones is excellent, too.

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If it had Burt Lancaster in it I liked it, but this movie "unforgiven" is special in so many ways. It deals with racism & bigotry before it became fashionable in movies to do so. The cast is strong and the performances equally strong, Audrey Hepburn glows as she always did, Audy Murphy proved he could be in something other then a "B" western, old pros Charles Bickford & Lillian Gish work their particular magic and maybe above all Joseph Wiseman as the half-mad drifter who inspires such guilt & anger among the rancher families draws you in until his final scence at the end of a lynch rope. I have liked this picture for decades and count it among my best in my collection.

 

Your other chices are equally fine :

My Darling Clementine-- great yarn, great cast

Shane- absolutley

Stagecoach- how did I miss this one and why did they ever shoot that pathetic remake with Bing crosby??

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> {quote:title=stjohnrv wrote:}{quote}

> If it had Burt Lancaster in it I liked it, but this movie "unforgiven" is special in so many ways. It deals with racism & bigotry before it became fashionable in movies to do so. The cast is strong and the performances equally strong, Audrey Hepburn glows as she always did, Audy Murphy proved he could be in something other then a "B" western, old pros Charles Bickford & Lillian Gish work their particular magic and maybe above all Joseph Wiseman as the half-mad drifter who inspires such guilt & anger among the rancher families draws you in until his final scence at the end of a lynch rope. I have liked this picture for decades and count it among my best in my collection.

>

 

Wow, you really made me interested in it again, ha! I think I will have to give it another chance.

 

I also like Burt in the little nothing western, Vengeance Valley. He's a little more subdued in that one, which I like. Very attractive.

 

> Your other chices are equally fine :

> My Darling Clementine-- great yarn, great cast

> Shane- absolutley

> Stagecoach- how did I miss this one and why did they ever shoot that pathetic remake with Bing crosby??

 

Remakes seem to be a chronic Hollywood disease...and incurable. :D

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some good choices and I would certainly agree with the inclusion of :

 

Rio Bravo- not El Dorado and didn't the Duke do yet another one with this same theme?

Winchester 73 - I think Stewarts best western

The Big Country- I like it, but not so much for Peck but rather for Berl Ives, Charles Bickford and Chuck Heston.

in anyones list.

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> {quote:title=stjohnrv wrote:}{quote}

> some good choices and I would certainly agree with the inclusion of :

>

> Rio Bravo- not El Dorado and didn't the Duke do yet another one with this same theme?

> Winchester 73 - I think Stewarts best western

> The Big Country- I like it, but not so much for Peck but rather for Berl Ives, Charles Bickford and Chuck Heston.

> in anyones list.

 

Yes, Duke and Howard Hawks also did Rio Lobo. :)

 

The Big Country is a truly magnificent western, though sadly the current DVD release from MGM doesn't quite do it justice, imho. This is a movie that totally deserves to be fully restored and given a "Collector's Edition" release.

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> {quote:title=stjohnrv wrote:}{quote}

> If you like Burt Lancaster westerns try these ones:

> -

> a-The Scalphunters, b-Ulzana's Raid, c- The professionals

 

I've tried Ulzana's Raid, it was a little tough to watch. I think The Scalphunters was on the Western Channel recently...and I'm sure I've seen it, but I'm not remembering too much about it.

 

I have seen The Professionals. I love all the stars (especially Robert Ryan) in that one and thought it was pretty good. A little violent for my tastes; it's a very "guy" movie, I guess. :D

 

I thought Burt was pretty good in Apache, too.

 

Speaking of Robert Ryan, I recently re-watched DAY OF THE OUTLAW and thought that one was excellent. Better than I remembered.

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Well we share a couple of favorites and the rest of your list is also good

 

Ride the High Country- it was just on this past week and Scott & Mcrae shine as the aging gun hands

The Oxbow Incident-- This one can be disturbing to watch, but what a study in mob mentality.

 

Man of the West- I have always had a problem wit this film in that for me something is missing in the character development of some of the principal cast. Coop's great as always he owned the stoic persona. Lee J Cobb's character is supposed to be that of an old school highwayman, but all I ever discern is a dirty old man. Jack Lord is just another gun punk with an inferiority complex. Royal Dano creates another insecure follower just as he did most of his career

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> {quote:title=stjohnrv wrote:}{quote}

> Man of the West- I have always had a problem wit this film in that for me something is missing in the character development of some of the principal cast. Coop's great as always he owned the stoic persona. Lee J Cobb's character is supposed to be that of an old school highwayman, but all I ever discern is a dirty old man. Jack Lord is just another gun punk with an inferiority complex. Royal Dano creates another insecure follower just as he did most of his career

 

There's something about it that for some reason keeps it from hitting the bull's eye, but I have yet to be able to put my finger on it, exactly. It's certainly worth watching, but imho not top-notch Mann.

 

Of course, even that is better than a lot of other Westerns from that time... ;)

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I like all the movies on your list, however, I can't approve of any list of top Westerns that does NOT include Clint Eastwood's *Unforgiven* or Kevin Costner's *Dances With Wolves*. These are masterpieces that define revisionist Westerns ... Otherwise, a decent list.

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