RAMBLES Part II

[Bronxgirl48]

> {quote:title=Ollie_T wrote:}{quote}

> Tammy Marihugh - this reminds of Mongo's photo with Mickey & Friends are shooting off Janet Leigh's buttons. "Got 'em all!" And Tammy looks no more thrilled than Janet was.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If only Captain George Sanders had seen Tammy grown up like this. He would have perked up considerably. "Get me on that lifeboat!"

[JackFavell]

Dick Powell does nothing for me flutterwise, but geez, the guy really could do anything! Singing, noir, producing, television, he re-invented himself at least three times over and that is so cool. He was trying to break out of the boy singer mold by 1937, but couldn't. When he saw Fred MacMurray do it, he put all his eggs in one noir basket.

 

But after reading Blondell's take on him, I'll pass on him romantically.

[JackFavell]

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> If only Captain George Sanders had seen Tammy grown up like this. He would have perked up considerably. "Get me on that lifeboat!"

 

 

Ha ha!

[Bronxgirl48]

Yes, Bob Stack could make fun of his taciturn image, and a man with a sense of humor is always appealing to me.

 

You're right about Paul Henreid, no chuckles there. I stumbled into the middle of DANCE, GIRL, DANCE, and was taken off guard when Ralph Bellamy, my Ralphie, followed Maureen O'Hara down a street. Now Ralph can be creepy, I remember him in a Deanna Durbin movie, and he certainly wasn't what he seemed...He wasn't weird in DGD, though, from the little I saw.

(however I didn't know what to make of O'Hara's character described as a "ballerina stooge", but, I digress)

 

Dick Powell had always been flutterless to me until he did a comedy called YOU NEVER CAN TELL in 1951, wherein he plays a German shepherd reincarnated into a human being. I cannot tell you how adorable yet masculine I thought he was ordering a bowl of milk at a fancy restaurant, and being affectionate towards his former owner, Peggy Dow. I ignored Dick pretty much up until his noir period, where I admired him for taking charge of his career and putting it on a totally different track. While I like him as Philip Marlowe, he doesn't give my heart flip-flops. Powell always had a boyishness to his features which hardened up a bit in a more "rugged" way, I guess, as he aged. But I tell you true, it is only as a canine that he appeals to me.

 

Robert Montgomery is a cutie-pie with a dark side. I would rather have him as my friend than a lover. He doesn't necessarily give me the flutters, although he's charming, witty, mischevous. I feel as though I'd rather mother him than pitch woo. I love him in THEY WERE EXPENDABLE, that's where he's sexiest to me, steady and reliable, not a gadabout playboy. And he looks marvelous in a uniform. I would be the one making the advances.

 

As for Robert Young, I believe he also had some struggles with the bottle, so there was definitely more going on with him beneath the surface. He did an effective job in THEY WON't BELIEVE ME, his dark-side picture, but on the whole, Bob leaves me flutterless. It's also the sway back and what I believe are his flat feet. He just doesn't have the gait of a sexy guy.

 

Jimmy Stewart in REAR WINDOW gives me flutters, and there he's holed up in that tiny apartment, stuck in a wheelchair with a bad leg, and wearing pajamas yet, but somehow he comes across as very masculine.

It could be Jeff's profession, too, flying around the world taking pictures in dangerous places, that lends his character a touch of glamour, certainly enough for anyone like Grace Kelly as Lisa to be interested in.

Stewart aged well and the older he got, the more attractive he became to me. I find him very hot in all his westerns. Love him grizzled and saddle-sore.

 

Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Aug 18, 2010 9:20 PM

[Bronxgirl48]

I didn't eat anything crazy last night, just some roast chicken and green beans, but I dreamt that Rosie O'Donnell was coming down the back steps of my former Chicago apartment, wearing a rock and roll t-sheet (that I didn't own) and a pair of my jeans. She looked fairly thin and I told her so.

That faded away and then Mae West appeared, wearing a Stevie Nicks outfit, a flower-child type dress, which was too large for her. Mae then showed me her four-poster bed which was very ugly with lots of heavy wood.

 

I'll make an appointment with my fellow psychiatrist tomorrow morning.

[Bronxgirl48]

 

So my pattyfingers award goes to Dick Powell in YOU NEVER CAN TELL.

Micheleen Flynn, go home!

[JackFavell]

I am dying to see *You never Can Tell* again, I only saw part of it years ago and always remembered it, though I think I remember the horse better than Dick Powell....who was it? Ann Sothern?

Please, please, TCM show this movie!

 

Robert Montgomery's brain is what attracts me. That guy is one sharp cookie, and he thrills me when he does snappy patter, or turns a Welsh phrase. He can be light, heavy, sexy, paranoiac, dark, silly, crazy, masculine, deep, oh, anything at all. He has crinkly eyes, and there is always meaning behind his words - in movies like The Last of Mrs. Cheney, he can make you almost weep saying the most foolish, light things, because you know that deep down he is terribly in love for the first time. I'd like to hear him whisper something very witty and very passionate in my ear.

 

But MissG would get mad, so I will stick with my true hearted cowboy Ben. I'd melt just hearing his voice.

 

I definitely need to be on the lookout for Robert Young in They Wouldn't Believe Me. It sounds like my cuppa tea.

 

I agree about Jimmy Stewart - his westerns brought him a more rugged, lived in, sexy persona.... his anguish is always kind of a turn on for me.

 

What the heck is a "ballerina stooge"?

 

Edited by: JackFavell on Aug 18, 2010 9:33 PM

[Bronxgirl48]

I just found YOU NEVER CAN TELL on YouTube, the whole movie!

 

I hope it's as good as I remember it, and that Dick is still sexy to me as a doggie.

[CineMaven]

Ollie writes - "And what about Jimmy Stewart? If ANYONE should have been flutterless, it could have been him but he remains a compelling on-screen character in so many of his films. Was he that good? Or that acquiescent so the studio kept using him over and over, pushing him beyond his face's limits??

 

My my you do have a way with words ("beyond his face?s limits.?)

 

--Hearing-- reading all this talk about the flutter factor of certain male movie stars makes me wonder how ANY one EVER got noticed in that Hollywood factory of olde.

 

There was such a plethora of actors and actresses (more than we have today I feel). Why did Ruth Hussey make it and not Lynn Bari. Why not Janis Carter or MaryBeth Hughes over Marilyn Maxwell. Why Ella Raines and not Marjorie Weaver. Why James Craig and not George Montgomery? Tall, dark and handsome.

 

You know what I mean. I?m not specifically talking about their acting. But I s?pose their acting or their studio had a lot to do with making them either a household name or a footnote in others? eyes but the strongest film buff. It?s a shading of difference between Irene Dunne and Myrna Loy...to me. Why wasn?t Jayne Meadows a bigger star than Alexis Smith??

 

I do love Melvyn Douglas? voice and Kent Smith?s chin.

 

I?m shallow I know it. I can?t do ?still waters? in the movies. I need immediate...impact. I need to be walloped by the likes (looks) of Victor Mature or Tyrone Power. Movies are such a visual medium that still waters and introspection are lost on me unless I?m really really really paying attention. (Oh, it's no effort to really pay attention). Again, I?m not talking about acting chops. You can Adler and Stanislavski and Strassberg and Uta your Hagen to your heart?s content. Give me Paul Newman?s baby blues. I flutter at the thought of William Holden. How did Jimmy Stewart or Henry Fonda break outta the pack? I dunno.

 

I don?t have it all figured out. If you do...you?re a better man than I, Gunga Din.

 

P.S. Thanx for the package. Got it. And laughed at your stamps: Coop, Hepburn and ol? Ski Nose. Thank you Ollie.

 

Miss G. writes - "What does everyone think of Dick Powell on the flutter radar? He doesn't light my fire, but I sure do enjoy his films noir.?

 

I can?t take Powell in the thirties, but he?s brilliant in ?Murder My Sweet? and has more gravitas as the decade wore on. Funny, when he was a baby-faced tenor he was wrestling with Blondell... more woman than a baby-faced boy could handle. Then, when he was more mature, he had June Allyson. Hollywood, go figure.

 

Evening Bronxie - ?Powell always had a boyishness to his features which hardened up a bit in a more ?rugged? way, I guess, as he aged. But I tell you true, it is only as a canine that he appeals to me.?

 

Woof!

 

"As for Robert Young...on the whole, Bob leaves me flutterless. It's also the sway back and what I believe are his flat feet. He just doesn't have the gait of a sexy guy.?

 

We?re sisters under the mink. (Too funny!) Just remind me not to eat what you ate to dream up Mae West and Rosie O? especially in my clothes. Ooooh, revelations galore. I?m lovin? it!

 

This just skims the very tip top epidermal surface of my heart:

 

Flutter worthy: Gable, Conte, dreamboats: R.Taylor & Power. Then there's Lancaster, Pidgeon, Cary, Rock, Errol, ( believe it or not...Don Taylor), Royal Dano, Denver Pyle, Jeff Chandler, Brent, Brando in his absolute **** heyday with a greasy mouthful of chicken, wifebeater undershirt, unintelligible speech ("Huh? What'd you say, honey? Again?). Mitchum makes me positively dizzy...such delicious rough trade in "Cape Fear."

 

Flutterless: Pat O?Brien, Colman, Tracy, Donat, Franchot, Bogie (but his heartbreak in ?Casablanca? makes me sympathetic), Orson, Cagney, Astaire, Fredric, Niven and a whole bunch of others...etc. Now, it's not that I don't like these actors but they don't get my heart going.

 

Grizzled and mature James Stewart has my attention, but it's when he is totally ?whipped? by falling in love with Kim Novak that I really love him...all tremulous and everything. (In ?After The Thin Man? his exit really got me going. It?s the tremulous thing...)

 

Edited by: CineMaven on Aug 18, 2010 9:38 PM - I have to fix an omission. I must trepidaciously include Robert Ryan on my Flutter List. But I'm not sure if it's lust or

fear with him. Well...I guess the combination actually intrigues me...

[JackFavell]

Ooh, I am going to look for it.

 

One day, I have to watch an entire 24 hours of youtube movies - I started a list of ones on there I want to see, and it is rapidly growing - I have a half a page already!

[JackFavell]

Ga ga..... Victor Mature...... now _that's_ flutter....

[CineMaven]

He's so yummy, isn't he? In "Demetrius and the Gladiator" and and...

[FrankGrimes]

Uncle Jesse flutters you?!

[CineMaven]

Uh-oh...Uncle Jesse. I don't know who that is. I probably should know but darn it, I don't.

 

One Ann Sheridan aside: if you watch in "KIng's Row" when Ronald Reagan takes her out for a buggy ride and he asks to kiss her. Her whole demeanor in that scene is just so wonderful.

 

Uncle Jesse....(you're not talking John Stamos are you? I'm a sucker for a mullet). But we're talking classics, man...classics!!

[MissGoddess]

> {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote}

> Dick Powell does nothing for me flutterwise, but geez, the guy really could do anything! Singing, noir, producing, television, he re-invented himself at least three times over and that is so cool. He was trying to break out of the boy singer mold by 1937, but couldn't. When he saw Fred MacMurray do it, he put all his eggs in one noir basket.

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> But after reading Blondell's take on him, I'll pass on him romantically.

 

I kind of liked him in SUSAN SLEPT HERE, too. Again, another terrific script. You're

right, like Montgomery, he was very versatile behind and in front of the camera and

a real pioneer of early TV. That's quite flutterable.

[MissGoddess]

I love Jimmy in *The Far Country* where he comes the closest to exciting me.

I'm also with the Mave, Stewart in *Vertigo* is another one where I really can't

take my eyes off him (and it's a movie all about looking and looks, isn't it?).

He is just so compellling. *Rear Window* isn't far behind. I guess I like

him somewhat cranky.

 

But then, he adorable in *Destry Rides Again* as well!

[MissGoddess]

> {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote}

> Do I recall correctly that you had dreams about Cooper too? You are quite the romantic.

 

I wish! No, that was coopsgirl, darn it!

[MissGoddess]

Jackie, yes *They Won't Believe Me* is terrific...I'd love to see that one again.

 

That poor horsey.

[FrankGrimes]

[JackFavell]

> {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote}

> Jackie, yes *They Won't Believe Me* is terrific...I'd love to see that one again.

I couldn't find it on youtube. But if you say it's good, I'm going to find it.

[CineMaven]

DANG YOUR SOUL, FRANK GRIMES!!! You sure know how to take the flutter OUTTA a girl!! Yeesh!

[FrankGrimes]

Actually, I think it's awesome that a gal would name Denver Pyle on a "flutter" list. You just went up, girl.

 

 

[CineMaven]

ACK!!! NOT in his "Dukes of Hazzard" days. Yikes!

 

If you or anyone out there is watching "KING'S ROW" (close your eyes during Robert Cummings' appearance) there's just one scene I'd like you to check out. I think I've mentioned this in TCM's

last screening of this film.

 

In the scene where Cummings goes away and Reagan and Sheridan see him off at the train station, Reagan goes from heartsick at losing his friend and then notices Sheridan there and

his change in attitude. So subtle, nice. Also, when Reagan rides her in his buggy and asks to

kiss her, I found Sheridan so sexy and charming in that little moment. It's a brief lovely moment.

 

Would you watch out for it? It's coming in the next few minutes.

[FrankGrimes]

Would you watch out for it? It's coming in the next few minutes.

 

No! I'm listening to Shalamar on MusicChoice.

 

I did just watch Robert Cummings in Reign of Terror. ChiO was right... it's great. Anthony Mann is superb.

[OllieTSB]

CM, glad the package arrived. You'd added a question about how any of those stars got noticed, why some, not others. GREAT QUESTION that i've resolved will never get answered.

 

Frankly, I've assumed some of the Hollywood beauties simply refused to "do everything, anything" to get better roles. And maybe others did, or maybe they had all the blackmail handed to them so they never had to. Why would ANYONE select Bette Davis, for example? NOT a beauty in any classic sense, but given time, her face IS a compelling one. But how many times was her personality injured by the Less Than Beautiful comment while surrounded by many others, far more classically beautiful?

 

Una O'Connor. How in the world did SHE stay working - 1929 to 1957?!! But she owned every role I've seen her in - each one is memorable if only because of her face, her shrieks, that voice or that nervousness (in RANDOM HARVEST, utterly betraying what she's going to do).

 

Or Laughton. We have some odd looking actors today (Giamatti, Buscemi, some other overweight actors) but I seriously doubt any of these guys will last 3 decades or even get in ten classics. Most will be lucky to get in a 1 or 2 that will last past a decade on TV reruns. God bless 'em, all.

 

Our film heritage is so much richer because of these 'stars' plus the hundreds of great supporting actors that plowed on, into the decades. Thank goodness for them, too.