RAMBLES Part II

[movieman1957]

>Yes but I feel bad when I do it to Chris.

 

I like being "bothered" like this by any of you. I am sorry I wasn't any help. The music from the "Picnic At Hanging Rock" is in a different key than Sir Francis' recording. It sounds more Mozart to me but I'm not sure.

 

So glad Sir Francis could help. I'm glad at least one of us is an expert. Going back to study.

[MissGoddess]

> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}

> Yes but I feel bad when I do it to Chris.

>

> But Jackie means well!

>

 

How did you drag Jackie into this?!

 

> SPOILERS OF THE RED WITCH!!!!!

>

 

 

> She's feisty? Uh-oh.

>

 

Yes.

 

 

> (though part of me still wishes Vivien could have played "Cathy").

>

> She would have slapped and kicked everyone in the picture like her name was "Snippy"!

>

 

Very funny.

 

> Oh, my. I may end up really liking this film. We know which way you'd go, Snobby!

>

 

And you'd be wrong.

 

> Gail seemed quiet and distant in the film, on the sad side. She was quite the opposite of Wayne. But her way makes me want to protect her, all the more. She's terribly vulnerable. In a way, she's the opposite of Maureen O'Hara.

>

 

She is very sad. I noticed that, too.

 

> See! Humor! The way Ralls carries on sometimes just kills me.

 

He was so greedy. He was going to get that gold no matter what!

[butterscotchgreer]

Hi ya T.

 

Hiya silly willy!

 

What has been your very favorite movie on the big screen so far?

 

In my whole life? That would be Star Wars

 

Why did I have a feeling you would say that? Heehee!

 

I saw it when it first came out. I was probably thirteen. I couldn't recreate that kind of youthful excitement again if I tried. I don't think anything has compared to that.

 

I still haven?t seen those on the big screen. I saw the new ones only because my grandpa wanted to see them to compare to the old ones.

 

I'm too old to consider that a "classic" film though.

 

That made me laugh! My boyfriend made me watch Rocky the other day because its one of his absolute favorites and he knows I like old movies. I had actually never seen Rocky, because it never striked me as my type of movies, but I really liked it, the love story in it that is. Heehee! Anyway, Joe considers it an ?old? movie, but I just looked at him and said, ?that?s not an old movie, silly. It was made in the 70s for pete?s sake!? and he answered with, ?I wasn?t even around in the 70s!??.I just cracked up and said, ?minor detail?.Casablanca?now that?s an old movie.? Then Joe says back, ?I don?t even know what that is; you?re really silly.??.tsk tsk tsk?. We have the funniest conversations.

 

I saw Red Dust on the big screen many years ago and I was just blown away by seeing Gable and Harlow up there bigger than life for the first time.. It was very exciting. I would love to see King Kong on the big screen.

 

I saw that one two summers ago and I was really excited to see it, but something was wrong with the reel, and it kept cutting off. Im glad you at least got to see it fully on the big screen. I bet it was fun!

 

I know! I'm very slow on the draw. I hope they bring them back.

 

Me too!

 

Never start a newbie, particularly a guy, on Marie Antoinette when dealing with Shearer films. Start with one of the pre-codes.

 

I didn?t even know Sammy watched Marie Antoinette. He watched it with his roommate and the next day asked me about it. I didn?t even know he knew about Norma! Heehee!

 

Poor Norma!

 

You?re telling me!

[rohanaka]

Hiya Grey Dude.. (and Miss G too)

 

So.. I made it to the library (without breaking my neck!! ha) and picked up my copy of WOTRW... now I just have to find some time tonight or tomorrow (hopefully) to sit down and watch.

 

You're one of the biggest Wayne fans on the board

 

Ha.. Oh great... now I have sunk even LOWER (than I likely already am) in the estimation of some on this board (if a certain thread in another forum that will remanin unmentioned is to be believed) But hey.. I can live with that.. and besides... .

 

I will be getting the Wayne box set with Blood Alley. I'm just waiting for a sale

 

Lately, I am thinking I am being far outmatched by YOU, Mr. Grey, in terms of my love for all things "Duke". ha. I think you MAY have seen almost as many of his films now as I have.

 

You have really impressed me by the way you have been willing to keep an open mind about him.. and I am glad you have found some of his movies among your favorites now. (PS: let me know when you get to Blood Alley.. I'd like to hear your thoughts on it... and say hello to your new girlfriend "Baby" for me too!! )

 

OH.. and PS: I now (finally) have The Tall T on order.. I kept forgetting to check for that one everytime I went in to the library, but your post reminded me.

 

And also.. after I read some of the other comments between you and Miss G.. guess what else I ordered.. ha.. JUST because I now want to DOUBLE dog dare you to watch it.... Wuthering Heights!!!!!!!

 

Oh..Grey Dude.. that one will be RIPE for a good old fashioned knock down drag out w/ you for sure... ha. (but who knows.. I can't wait to hear your take on those two "love birds" ha. But I MAY surprise you.. because WH is a story always baffles me.. ha. I truly do love it... a LOT.. but for reasons that are a complete mystery to me because I ABSOLUTELY hate both the male and the female leads.. (OH MY GOLLY.. talk about a couple of self absorbed jerks.. ha.. oh ladies.. I know... what kind of "romance" fan do I think I am I anyway.. ha. Please forgive me..)

 

But I will save that for another ramble..

 

OH.. and PS: don't think I MISSED your sideswiping wise crack about me being "mean" to kids... I am never mean... just lovingly "firm" You know.. much like how I have to be in order to keep the likes of YOU in line.. (A Peacemaker's job is never done... )

 

PS: Miss Scotchie.. HOWDY there you soon to be Birthday Girl!!

[FrankGrimes]

Hiya Grey Dude.. (and Miss G too)

 

She's a mess, all right.

 

So.. I made it to the library (without breaking my neck!! ha) and picked up my copy of WOTRW... now I just have to find some time tonight or tomorrow (hopefully) to sit down and watch.

 

There we go! I'm curious to see what you think of it with fresh eyes.

 

Ha.. Oh great... now I have sunk even LOWER (than I likely already am) in the estimation of some on this board (if a certain thread in another forum that will remanin unmentioned is to be believed) But hey.. I can live with that.. and besides... Lately, I am thinking I am being far outmatched by YOU, Mr. Grey, in terms of my love for all things "Duke". ha. I think you MAY have seen almost as many of his films now as I have.

 

You have really impressed me by the way you have been willing to keep an open mind about him.. and I am glad you have found some of his movies among your favorites now.

 

Wayne has impressed me and I've come to this conclusion since I've joined this board. It's true, Wayne lacks range. But that's okay with me because he's a very good actor. I believe he's terribly underrated. He's a relaxing watch; wonderfully easy-going. I've been impressed by his subtlety and his soft side. That's what has won me over. I love his scenes with women. Fantastic.

 

The Duke currently ranks #21 on my favorite actor list and I wouldn't be surprised to see him move up further.

 

You still have me beat when it comes to Wayne viewings. My list is as follows:

 

1. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) .... Tom Doniphon

2. The Searchers (1956) .... Ethan Edwards

3. Stagecoach (1939) .... The Ringo Kid

4. The Quiet Man (1952) .... Sean Thornton

5. The Shepherd of the Hills (1941) .... Young Matt

6. Rio Grande (1950) .... Lt. Col. Kirby Yorke

7. Rio Bravo (1959) .... Sheriff John T. Chance

8. Red River (1948) .... Thomas Dunson

9. Wake of the Red Witch (1948) .... Capt. Ralls

10. Baby Face (1933) .... Jimmy McCoy Jr.

11. The Wings of Eagles (1957) .... Frank W. 'Spig' Wead

12. They Were Expendable (1945) .... Lt. JG 'Rusty' Ryan

13. Fort Apache (1948) .... Capt. Kirby York

14. Angel and the Badman (1947) .... Quirt Evans

15. The Horse Soldiers (1959) .... Col. John Marlowe

16. Hondo (1953) .... Hondo Lane

17. The Long Voyage Home (1940) .... Ole Olsen

18. She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949) .... Capt. Nathan Cutting Brittles

19. Donovan's Reef (1963) .... Michael Patrick 'Guns' Donovan

20. McLintock! (1963) .... George Washington McLintock

 

Now that's a listing of my favorite films that feature John Wayne. It's not a list of my favorite Wayne characters or performances. "Ralls" would actually rank second in characters, behind "Doniphon."

 

(PS: let me know when you get to Blood Alley.. I'd like to hear your thoughts on it... and say hello to your new girlfriend "Baby" for me too!! )

 

Girls don't like me! You know this!

 

OH.. and PS: I now (finally) have The Tall T on order.. I kept forgetting to check for that one everytime I went in to the library, but your post reminded me.

 

Well, I did get the box set in the mail, today. I'm going to watch it this weekend. But I can hold off on discussing it. I actually have Hell's Hinges now, too.

 

And also.. after I read some of the other comments between you and Miss G.. guess what else I ordered.. ha.. JUST because I now want to DOUBLE dog dare you to watch it.... Wuthering Heights!!!!!!!

 

Oh..Grey Dude.. that one will be RIPE for a good old fashioned knock down drag out w/ you for sure... ha. (but who knows.. I can't wait to hear your take on those two "love birds" ha. But I MAY surprise you.. because WH is a story always baffles me.. ha. I truly do love it... a LOT.. but for reasons that are a complete mystery to me because I ABSOLUTELY hate both the male and the female leads.. (OH MY GOLLY.. talk about a couple of self absorbed jerks.. ha.. oh ladies.. I know... what kind of "romance" fan do I think I am I anyway.. ha. Please forgive me..)

 

But I will save that for another ramble..

 

Now that's a juicy tease! I'm very curious about Wuthering Heights, actually. And I'd love to see you get torched by the gals.

 

OH.. and PS: don't think I MISSED your sideswiping wise crack about me being "mean" to kids... I am never mean... just lovingly "firm" You know.. much like how I have to be in order to keep the likes of YOU in line.. (A Peacemaker's job is never done... )

 

Yeah, "lovingly firm"! And Fordy Guns' slaps are just the same!

[MissGoddess]

Oh, Ro that's great! You have WOTR, The Tall T and Wuthering Heights in the pipeline.

Terrific. This should all make for interesting rumbling...I mean rambling!

 

And being an admirer of John Wayne's acting is a mark of exceptional perception.

 

That's why I'm so surprised Grimes likes him.

[movieman1957]

April:

 

Re: Picnic At Hanging Rock.

 

I got it and and embarrassed for having missed it. Beethoven's 5th Piano Concerto. 2nd movement.

 

 

 

It's too bad they left out the lovely prelude to the piano coming in.

 

We now rejoin our regularly scheduled discussion.

[MissGoddess]

Wow, Beethoven? I never would have thought that, but it just shows

you how little I know about classical music. Thank you so much, musicman Chris!

[movieman1957]

I have all of you beat. 116 Wayne movies. It's taken a long time and a lot of those not-so-great B movies to get there.

 

I watched them so you don't have to.

[FrankGrimes]

I have all of you beat. 116 Wayne movies. It's taken a long time and a lot of those not-so-great B movies to get there.

 

I watched them so you don't have to.

 

Wow! That's remarkable! I was considering watching some of the Duke's 30s programmers, but I was gunned down. As usual!

[MissGoddess]

> {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote}

> I have all of you beat. 116 Wayne movies. It's taken a long time and a lot of those not-so-great B movies to get there.

>

> I watched them so you don't have to.

 

My goodness! I don't know how you guys keep track of these things. I haven only seen a half dozen or so of his 30s "B" westerns. I've never seen CIRCUS WORLD, either, at the other end of his career, nor do I want to.

[movieman1957]

> I've never seen CIRCUS WORLD, either, at the other end of his career, nor do I want to.

 

A wise choice my dear.

 

I started making lists a long time ago. Long before there were reference books like Leonard Maltin's. I kept lists of what I saw and lists of my favorite actors and directors.

 

If you've seen that many of those old "Lone Star" productions you pretty well have the gist of them.

[MissGoddess]

> {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote}

> > I've never seen CIRCUS WORLD, either, at the other end of his career, nor do I want to.

>

> A wise choice my dear.

>

 

The still photos alone scared me off!

 

> I started making lists a long time ago. Long before there were reference books like Leonard Maltin's. I kept lists of what I saw and lists of my favorite actors and directors.

>

 

That's great. Do you still have them?

 

> If you've seen that many of those old "Lone Star" productions you pretty well have the gist of them.

 

That's what I thought. They're fun and amusing, if nothing else.

[movieman1957]

>That's great. Do you still have them?

 

Yes. Most of those lists are still on old index cards. I started around 1974. I still have a handwritten list of everything I saw. Three columns per side of regular paper. I put an asterisk on them when I saw them again. Sometimes it was tough making sure I didn't already have it on the list. I have since transferred it to a computer as it makes the searching so much easier.

[MissGoddess]

>

> Yes. Most of those lists are still on old index cards. I started around 1974. I still have a handwritten list of everything I saw. Three columns per side of regular paper. I put an asterisk on them when I saw them again. Sometimes it was tough making sure I didn't already have it on the list. I have since transferred it to a computer as it makes the searching so much easier.

 

Grimes may have met his match! Do you find your tastes have changed since you began the lists?

[movieman1957]

Yes, in some things. I used to watch Abbott and Costello every chance I got. I don't really go out of my way to watch them. I am certainly more conscious of noir films now. I am not even sure I knew what I was watching. It was just for entertainment. Now, mostly thanks to you and the group, I watch them more critically.

 

I am less tolerant of bad films. (That may be more an age thing.) I won't watch something too often for the sake of watching something. Some actors I am not as much of a fan as I was once. I am still fond of my westerns and romantic comedies. I have never acquired a taste for horror.

 

I do rely a lot on the group here for new things to watch. When I was younger I didn't know anyone who liked old movies so I would watch something just because it was on. It was about learning, It was forming likes and who I could enjoy and what to avoid.

[MissGoddess]

Sounds like you're still pretty steady. I've changed a lot more, I think, and the

board has influenced me a lot, too. I'd say my appreciation with films noir is also

one that's grown because of the talk here. And I know what you mean about being

more critical. I can see that in myself, too. Though I still like some of my "fluffies".

 

I used to like comedies a lot more than now. Now, for some reason, I prefer

television sitcoms (old ones) to comedy films.

[FrankGrimes]

Though I still like some of my "fluffies".

 

Are you kidding? That's all you like! Ford and his fluffy woman pictures!

[movieman1957]

To see my Netflix queue you may not think I like old movies so much but more so than new films. It is made up mostly of old TV shows, British murder mysteries and some documentaries.

 

These are things I've not seen or find a new series that I like and want to see more of them. This is really true of the British films/series.

[MissGoddess]

> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}

> Though I still like some of my "fluffies".

>

> Are you kidding? That's all you like! Ford and his fluffy woman pictures!

 

They aren't fluffy! You only like movies about crazies! You like

*Wake of the Red Witch* because Wayne flips his lid!

[MissGoddess]

> These are things I've not seen or find a new series that I like and want to see more of them. This is really true of the British films/series.

 

I get it. So we're kind of alike in that we both seem to be getting into Television series.

[FrankGrimes]

You only like movies about crazies!

 

Yes! I like my films to be gentle!

 

You like Wake of the Red Witch because Wayne flips his lid!

 

Right! And it has a wonderful ending!

[MissGoddess]

> Yes! I like my films to be gentle!

>

 

Like this:

 

 

> You like Wake of the Red Witch because Wayne flips his lid!

>

> Right! And it has a wonderful ending!

 

Terrible! You're a sadist!

[FrankGrimes]

No, not like that! That's not gentle! We need gentle squids and gentle hair-pulls.

[MissGoddess]

> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}

> No, not like that! That's not gentle! We need gentle squids and gentle hair-pulls.

 

Ro and I will be glad to give you some gentle hair pulling.

 

The squid's on order.