MissGoddess Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 > {quote:title=Bronxgirl48 wrote:}{quote} > Let us discuss why beautiful women are a threat to you. Ha!! Where'd he go?! What a coward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 PENELOPE is on YouTube -- I just found this. I have it taped! Let us discuss why beautiful women are a threat to you. "Beautiful" women? Try all women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 >"Beautiful" women? Try all women. I thought it was the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 > {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote} > >"Beautiful" women? Try all women. > > I thought it was the other way around. Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 > {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=Bronxgirl48 wrote:}{quote} > > Let us discuss why beautiful women are a threat to you. > > Ha!! Where'd he go?! What a coward! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 > {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote} > Wow, you know I couldn't see where you were getting the comparisons from but > now I think I do. I remember when Penelope is holding the knife (on her wedding day) > and how she looks at it? Kind of reminded me of Sylvia Sydney in *Sabotage*. Oh my gosh thank you for jogging my Hitch memory -- during that knife scene it reminded me of one of his early films, but I just couldn't come up with the title! Mind you, of course, PENELOPE (on the surface at least, lol) is indeed a fun, fluffy as you say, Mod '60's Natalie Wood flick, but the moment I started watching it, MARNIE and other Hitchcock references came immediately to mind. But Penelope, unlike Marnie, has been actively seeking psychiatric advice (three years with Dick Shawn as her shrink, that I guess would make anyone crazy) although (for comedic purposes) she's so "cutely" oblivious to the moral and societal consequences of her actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > Lila was the best thing about Torn Curtain. Don't forget Wolfgang Kieling as "Gromek". Hey, did you notice that Jerome Cowan plays the bank manager in PENELOPE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 > {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote} > PENELOPE is on YouTube -- I just found this. > > I have it taped! Terrific! I love her wardrobe... > > Let us discuss why beautiful women are a threat to you. > > "Beautiful" women? Try all women. HA! Doctor Goddess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 I've got to watch it again with all this in mind. It's always been such a truly no-brain movie experience, ha! Dick Shawn as a shrink, oh my goodness. What casting. His hair alone would have drove me crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Jerome Cowan! I tried to watch *Penelope* when it was on a year or so ago, but fell asleep... I see Jerome is another who aged beautifully! But don't ask me to fight for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 If it wasn't for the Hitchcock "references", I probably wouldn't give PENELOPE a second thought after seeing it for the first time, but, it definitely has an odd tone about it underneath the "perkiness". Or maybe I'm just reading TOO much into it all. There are a couple of plot twists which could be said to undermine the MARNIE aspects, but, still... It's interesting -- I'd probably fight for Jerome more so than an all-natural Robert Redford. Bob looks so...droopy, sad to say. I almost wish he'd opted for the plastic surgery, as much as I loathe that procedure for men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 I have to confess I have the novel *Penelope* is based on. It's not really in the comic style, only slightly, so I think you could be on to something, Lady B. Penelope is a kook who follows her own logic and that is what I enjoy about the movie. Plus I really love "Columbo" being in it and being smitten with Penelope. And the clothes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 > {quote:title=Bronxgirl48 wrote:}{quote} > It's interesting -- I'd probably fight for Jerome more so than an all-natural Robert Redford. Bob looks so...droopy, sad to say. I almost wish he'd opted for the plastic surgery, as much as I loathe that procedure for men. Actually, I probably would fight for Jerome too. He's such a dear man. There's something so charming about him, without a trace of arrogance. He doesn't seem selfish in any way and he has a kind of absent minded classiness. I applaud Bob not doing the surgery thing, and his anti-establishment stance, but there is something unpleasantly standoffish about him. Although his Natalie Wood promo is pretty funny. At least he can make fun of himself. Sort of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 > {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote} > I have to confess I have the novel *Penelope* is based on. It's not really in the comic style, only slightly, so I think you could be on to something, Lady B. Penelope is a kook who follows her own logic and that is what I enjoy about the movie. Plus I really love "Columbo" being in it and being smitten with Penelope. > > And the clothes. Wow, you've got or read so many novels that films are based on! (which is why you have such a rich perspective) Peter was warming up for "Columbo", wasn't he? Another MARNIE connection: Falk asks Natalie about her childhood, like Connery does with Hedren at the race track. Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Jul 2, 2010 2:40 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=Bronxgirl48 wrote:}{quote} > > It's interesting -- I'd probably fight for Jerome more so than an all-natural Robert Redford. Bob looks so...droopy, sad to say. I almost wish he'd opted for the plastic surgery, as much as I loathe that procedure for men. > > Actually, I probably would fight for Jerome too. He's such a dear man. There's something so charming about him, without a trace of arrogance. He doesn't seem selfish in any way and he has a kind of absent minded classiness. I applaud Bob not doing the surgery thing, and his anti-establishment stance, but there is something unpleasantly standoffish about him. Although his Natalie Wood promo is pretty funny. At least he can make fun of himself. Sort of. I think Jerome looked better in PENELOPE than he did as Bette's aged balding suitor from MR. SKEFFINGTON, lol. I know what you mean about Redford, and I've seen the Wood promo. (he's sharp about her "cocked-head" mannerism, ha!) I always thought that in many respects ORDINARY PEOPLE defined Bob for me as an individual. I don't know why, but i think maybe he identified with the Mary Tyler Moore figure and/or Timothy Hutton. Just a feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 > {quote:title=konway87 wrote:}{quote} > Here are the interviews (four parts) with Hitchcock on youtube. The first 2 parts of the interview are with Ingrid Bergman's daughter Pia Lindstrom. In the first 2 parts, Hitchcock talk about several things including method acting, Charles Laughton and Jamaica Inn. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBMR0M4w7C0 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BumwFR19cc > > > > In the third and fourth part, William Everson asks about early films like The Man Who Knew too Much (1934), Number 17, and others. Konway, before I forget, I want to thank you for posting these...I have never seen them and look forward to watching every minute. I can't BELIEVE how much Pia looks like her mother...I thought until now it was Isabella who most resembled her, but there's no comparison. She even has the same way of holding her head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 > {quote:title=Bronxgirl48 wrote:}{quote} > I think Jerome looked better in PENELOPE than he did as Bette's aged balding suitor from MR. SKEFFINGTON, lol. I think you are right! And he looked like that throughout the sixties - I've caught him on some sitcoms and ALias SMith and Jones eps, and he looks exactly the same. Adorable and classy. > I know what you mean about Redford, and I've seen the Wood promo. (he's sharp about her "cocked-head" mannerism, ha!) I always thought that in many respects ORDINARY PEOPLE defined Bob for me as an individual. I don't know why, but i think maybe he identified with the Mary Tyler Moore figure and/or Timothy Hutton. Just a feeling. You really should be a shrink. I think you are totally on to something. I never , ever thought about him having a childhood or inner life - he always seemed so perfect. I bet that is something he had to be, due to family complications. I bet a million dollars he grew up like Tim Hutton, maybe without the trauma of a dying sibling. God, that movie is good. I like *A River Runs Through It* too - that one is all about being 'the good son' too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=Bronxgirl48 wrote:}{quote} > > I think Jerome looked better in PENELOPE than he did as Bette's aged balding suitor from MR. SKEFFINGTON, lol. > > I think you are right! And he looked like that throughout the sixties - I've caught him on some sitcoms and ALias SMith and Jones eps, and he looks exactly the same. Adorable and classy. "Adorable and classy", yes. He and Allyn Joslyn. > > > I know what you mean about Redford, and I've seen the Wood promo. (he's sharp about her "cocked-head" mannerism, ha!) I always thought that in many respects ORDINARY PEOPLE defined Bob for me as an individual. I don't know why, but i think maybe he identified with the Mary Tyler Moore figure and/or Timothy Hutton. Just a feeling. > > You really should be a shrink. I think you are totally on to something. I never , ever thought about him having a childhood or inner life - he always seemed so perfect. I bet that is something he had to be, due to family complications. I bet a million dollars he grew up like Tim Hutton, maybe without the trauma of a dying sibling. God, that movie is good. I like *A River Runs Through It* too - that one is all about being 'the good son' too. I think you're right about Redford being more like Hutton. Heard and read some things about Bob supposedly being passive-aggressive, so if this is true, issues with anger were no doubt a challenge he had to deal with growing up. I always have to watch ORDINARY PEOPLE whenever it's on. Actually, I'm blown away by Donald Sutherland as the father. He was robbed of an Oscar imo. Never saw A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT, but now you've got me extremely interested. I never knew that Redford did several Hitchcock television programs. Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Jul 2, 2010 5:35 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I get the impression Redford came from well to do folks, but I have no idea if it's true. If so, image might have been everything - and he would have rebelled against that, while all the time having to be the best and the brightest..... Oh I don't know. Or his parents were German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konway87 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 You are welcome. I agree about Pia Lindstrom. She looks like her mother Ingrid Bergman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzcutter Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 *Never saw A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT, but now you've got me extremely interested.* Bronxie, I think you would enjoy it very much. Tom Skerrit is wonderful as the father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Thanks for the thumbs up, Lynn! And Tom is kinda sexy, too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > I get the impression Redford came from well to do folks, but I have no idea if it's true. If so, image might have been everything - and he would have rebelled against that, while all the time having to be the best and the brightest..... Oh I don't know. Or his parents were German. Ha! I do enjoy him as an actor. (and Bob's at his hottest to me in THE WAY WE WERE and BAREFOOT IN THE PARK) Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Jul 9, 2010 3:40 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Oh, I go with the crowd and say he's sexiest as the Sundance Kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Would you believe I've never seen that movie? Whenever I watch clips of it, I can't get beyond "Raindrops Are Fallin' On My Head", I just can't. I don't like Katherine Ross, either. However, I'm a fan of George Roy Hill, so, go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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