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The Best Pictures Oscars: A retrospective comparison


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Well it's a new year, which means it's Oscar time. Which also means that its time to comment on the Academy's generally rotten judgement. This thread will compare will compare several retrospective judgements. First, there's Danny Peary's 1992 book Alternate Oscars (he also gave an opinion on the 1992 awards). Then there is theyshootpictures.com top 1000 movies of all time, and top 250 movies of the new century. Then there is Michael Gebert's 1995 Encyclopedia of Movie Awards. Then there are the Hindsight Awards, seen at http://www.madbeast.com/hindsight.htm. Then there is the opinion of the Armchair Oscars, at armchairoscars.com. Then there are the top 10s of the critic Robert Horton at his website The Crop Duster: http://roberthorton.wordpress.com/. Finally there's my opinion.


Now the Academy has never given Best Picture to a foreign language movie. Peary follows this. Gebert has separate awards for American and foreign films, though "foreign" includes Britain, and even some films made in Hollywood by foreign directors. Hindsight and Armchair do include foreign language films, but rarely and somewhat arbitarilily. The other sources do not distinguish between American and foreign language films. Because the first years of the oscars did not match calender years, there are two choices for the Cropduster before 1934.


With that in mind, here are the comparisons up to 1939. Future decades are on the way!




Academy: Wings (Artistic Quality of Production) Sunrise

Peary: Sunrise

Theyshoot: Sunrise

Gerbert: Sunrise/Pandora's Box

Hindsight: Sunrise

Armchair: Metropolis

Cropduster: Sunrise/Spies

Me: The Passion of Joan of Arc





Academy: The Broadway Melody

Peary: The Wind

Theyshoot:The Man with a Movie Camera

Gerbert: The Iron Mask/Blackmail

Hindsight: The Wind

Armchair: The Wind

Cropduster: The Wind/Hallelujah

Me: The Man with a Movie Camera




Academy: All Quiet on the Western Front

Peary: All Quiet on the Western Front

TheyShoot: Earth

Gerbert: All Quiet on the Western Front/Westfront 1918

Hindsight: All Quiet on the Western Front

Armchair: All Quiet on the Western Front


Me: All Quiet on the Western Front





Peary: City Lights

TheyShoot: City Lights

Gerbert: City Lights/Tabu

Hindsight: City Lights

Armchair: City Lights

Cropduster: Morocco/M

Me: M




Academy: Grand Hotel

Peary: Scarface: the Shame of a Nation

TheyShooot: Freaks

Gerbert: Grand Hotel/I was Born But..

Hindsight: Frankenstein

Armchair:Scarface: the Shame of a Nation

Cropduster:Scarface: the Shame of a Nation/La Chienne

Me: Vampyr




Academy: Cavalcade

Peary: King Kong

TheyShoot: Duck Soup

Gerbert: King Kong/The Private Life of Henry VIII

Hindsight: King Kong

Armchair: King Kong

Cropduster:Trouble in Paradise/The Bitter Tea of General Yen

Me: Duck Soup




Academy: It Happened One Night

Peary: The Scarlet Empress

TheyShoot: L'Atalante

Gerbert: It Happened One Night/L'Atalante

Hindsight: It Happened One Night

Armchair: The Thin Man

Cropduster: L'Atalante

Me: The Thin Man




Academy: Mutiny on the Bounty

Peary: The 39 Steps

TheyShoot: The Bride of Frankenstein

Gerbert: The Bride of Frankenstein/An Inn in Tokyo

Hindsight: Top Hat

Armchair: The Informer

Cropduster: The 39 Steps

Me: A Night at the Opera




Academy: The Great Ziegfeld

Peary: Modern Times

TheyShoot: Modern Times

Gerbert: My Man Godfrey/Sabotage

Hindsight: Mr. Deeds Goes to Town

Armchair: Modern Times

Cropduster: Modern Times

Me: Another Thin Man




Academy: The Life of Emile Zola

Peary: Stage Door

TheyShoot: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

Gerbert: History is Made at Night/Pepe le Moko

Hindsight: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

Armchair: Snow White and the Seven Dwards

Cropduster: Grand Illusion

Me: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs




Academy: You Can't Take it With You

Peary: The Adventures of Robin Hood

TheyShoot: Grand Illusion

Gerbert: The Adventures of Robin Hood/Grand Illusion

Hindsight: The Adventures of Robin Hood

Armchair: Grand Illusion

Cropduster: Bringing up Baby

Me: Grand Illusion




Academy: Gone with the Wind

Peary: The Wizard of Oz

TheyShoot: The Rules of the Game

Gerbert: Only Angels Have Wings/The Rules of the Game

Hindsight: Gone with the Wind

Armchair: The Wizard of Oz

Cropduster: The Rules of the Game

Me: The Wizard of Oz

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And here are the forties:




Academy: Rebecca

Peary: The Grapes of Wrath

TheyShoot: His Girl Friday

Gerbert: Fantasia/The Thief of Bagdad

Hindsight: The Grapes of Wrath

Armchair: The Grapes of Wrath

Cropduster: The Great Dictator

Me: His Girl Friday




Academy: How Green Was My Valley

Peary: Citizen Kane

TheyShoot: Citizen Kane

Gerbert: Citizen Kane/The 49th Parallel

Hindsight: Citizen Kane

Armchair: Citizen Kane

Cropduster: Citizen Kane

Me: Citizen Kane




Academy: Mrs. Miniver

Peary: Sullivan's Travels

TheyShoot: The Magnificent Ambersons

Gerbert: The Palm Beach Story/In Which We Serve

Hindsight: To Be or not to Be

Armchair: To Be or not to Be

Cropduster: The Magnificent Ambersons

Me: The Magnificent Ambersons




Academy: Casablanca

Peary: Casablanca

TheyShoot: Casablanca

Gerbert: Casablanca/Ivan the Terrible, Part I

Hindsight: Casablanca

Armchair: Casablanca

Cropduster: Shadow of a Doubt

Me: Casablanca




Academy: Going my Way

Peary: Double Indemnity

TheyShoot: Double Indemnity

Gerbert: Double Indemnity/The Seventh Cross

Hindsight: Double Indemnity

Armchair: Double Indemnity

Cropduster: Laura

Me: Ivan the Terrible, Part I




Academy: The Long Weekend

Peary: They were Expendable

TheyShoot: Children of Paradise

Gerbert: Detour/Children of Paradise

Hindsight: The Bells of St. Mary

Armchair: The Picture of Dorian Grey

Cropduster: Children of Paradise

Me: Children of Paradise




Academy: The Best Years of Our Lives

Peary: It's a Wonderful Life

TheyShoot: It's a Wonderful Life

Gerbert: It's a Wonderful Life/Henry V

Hindsight: It's a Wonderful Life

Armchair: It's a Wonderful Life

Cropduster: It's a Wonderful Life

Me: It's a Wonderful Life




Academy: Genttleman's Agreement

Peary: Monsieur Verdoux

TheyShoot: Out of the Past

Gerbert: Crossfire/Black Narcissus

Hindsight: Miracle on 34th Street

Armchair: Monsieur Verdoux

Cropduster: Black Narcissus

Me: Black Narcissus




Academy: Hamlet

Peary: TheTreasure of the Sierra Madre

TheyShoot: The Bicycle Thieves

Gerbert: Letter from an Unknown Woman/The Red Shoes

Hindsight: The Treasure of the Sierra Madre

Armchair: The Treasure of the Sierra Madre

Cropduster: The Treasure of the Sierra Madre

Me: Rope




Academy: All the King's Men

Peary: Gun Crazy

TheyShoot: Late Spring

Gerbert: Twelve O'Clock High/The Fallen Idol

Hindsight: The Bicycle Thieves

Armchair: The Third Man

Cropduster: The Third Man

Me: Late Spring

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> {quote:title=skimpole wrote:}{quote}

> And here are the forties:

> 1945


> Academy: The Long Weekend

> Peary: They were Expendable

> TheyShoot: Children of Paradise

> Gerbert: Detour/Children of Paradise

> Hindsight: The Bells of St. Mary

> Armchair: The Picture of Dorian Grey

> Cropduster: Children of Paradise

> Me: Children of Paradise


Apparently, it's not just the Weekend that got Lost.

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Skimpole, thanks for posting these comparisons. It's fun to compare official taste vs. later reappraisals. I actually prefer the Academy's choice of THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (or HENRY V) to everybody else's IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE. Often I don't even know my own mind: THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE? LETTER FROM AN UNKNOWN WOMAN? THE RED SHOES? (Repeat over and over, trying to decide.)

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Anyway, here are the fifties:




Academy: All About Eve

Peary: Sunset Blvd.

TheyShoot: Rashomon

Gerbert: All About Eve/The Third Man

Hindsight: Sunset Blvd.

Armchair: Sunset Blvd.

Cropduster: Wagon Master

Me: Sunset Blvd.




Academy: An American in Paris

Peary: Strangers on a Train

TheyShoot: The River

Gerbert: Strangers on a Train/Miss Julie

Hindsight: A Streetcar Named Desire

Armchair: The Day the Earth Stood Still

Cropduster: The River

Me: Alice in Wonderland




Academy: The Greatest Show on Earth

Peary: Singin' in the Rain

TheyShoot: Singin' in the Rain

Gerbert: Singin' in the Rain/El

Hindsight: Singin' in the Rain

Armchair: Singin' in the Rain

Cropduster: Othello

Me: Singin' in the Rain




Academy: From Here to Eternity

Peary: Shane

TheyShoot: Tokyo Story

Gerbert: The Naked Spur/The Wages of Fear

Hindsight: Roman Holiday

Armchair: The Big Heat

Cropduster: The Earrings of Madame De..

Me: The Wages of Fear




Academy: On the Waterfront

Peary: Salt of the Earth

TheyShoot: The Seven Samurai

Gerbert: Rear Window/Sansho the Baliff

Hindsight: On the Waterfront

Armchair: Rear Window

Cropduster: The Seven Samurai

Me: The Seven Samurai




Academy: Marty

Peary: The Night of the Hunter

TheyShoot: The Night of the Hunter

Gerbert: All that Heaven Allows/Ordet

Hindsight: Mister Roberts

Armchair: The Night of the Hunter

Cropduster: The Night of the Hunter

Me: Ordet




Academy: Around the World in Eighty Days

Peary: The Searchers

TheyShoot: The Searchers

Gerbert: The Searchers/A Man Escaped

Hindsight: The Searchers

Armchair: The Searchers

Cropduster: The Searchers

Me: A Man Escaped




Academy: The Bridge on the River Kwai

Peary: Paths of Glory

TheyShoot: The Seventh Seal

Gerbert: The Sweet Smell of Success/The Nights of Cabiria

Hindsight: The Bridge on the River Kwai

Armchair: Paths of Glory

Cropduster: Nights of Cabiria

Me: 12 Angry Men




Academy: Gigi

Peary: Touch of Evil

TheyShoot: Vertigo

Gerbert: Touch of Evil/Wild Strawberries

Hindsight: Vertigo

Armchair: Mon Oncle

Cropduster: Vertigo

Me: Vertigo




Academy: Ben-Hur

Peary: Some Like it Hot

TheyShoot: Some Like it Hot

Gerbert: Rio Bravo/The 400 Blows

Hindsight: Ben-Hur

Armchair: Some Like it Hot

Cropduster: North by Northwest

Me: North by Northwest

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And here are the sixties:




Academy: The Apartment

Peary: Psycho

TheyShoot: La Dolce Vita

Gerbert: The Apartment/La Dolce Vita

Hindsight: The Apartment

Armchair: Psycho

Cropduster: Psycho

Me: Psycho




Academy: West Side Story

Peary: West Side Story

TheyShoot: Jules and Jim

Gerbert: The Hustler/Such a Long Absence

Hindsight: West Side Story

Armchair: Victim

Cropduster: Last Year in Marienbad

Me: Last Year in Marienbad




Academy: Lawrence of Arabia

Peary: Ride the High Country

TheyShoot: Lawrence of Arabia

Gerbert: Lawrence of Arabia/Divorce--Italian Style

Hindsight: Lawrence of Arabia

Armchair: The Manchurian Candidate

Cropduster: Jules et Jim

Me: Lawrence of Arabia




Academy: Tom Jones

Peary: None

TheyShoot: 8 1/2

Gerbert: The Nutty Professor/An Actor's Revenge

Hindsight: The Great Escape

Armchair: The Haunting

Cropduster: 8 1/2

Me: The Leopard




Academy: My Fair Lady

Peary: Dr. Strangelove, or How I learned to stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

TheyShoot: Dr. Strangelove, or How I learned to stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

Gerbert: Dr. Strangelove, or How I learned to stop Worrying and Love the Bomb/Shadows of Our Forgotten Ancestors

Hindsight: Dr. Strangelove, or How I learned to stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

Armchair: Dr. Strangelove, or How I learned to stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

Cropduster: A Hard Day's Night

Me: A Hard Day's Night




Academy: The Sound of Music

Peary: Repulsion

TheyShoot: Pierrot le Fou

Gerbert: Report/The Shop on Main Street

Hindsight: The Sound of Music

Armchair: Repulsion

Cropduster: Pierrot le Fou

Me: Help!




Academy: A Man for all Seasons

Peary: Cul-de-Sac

TheyShoot: Persona

Gerbert: A Man for All Seasons/Blowup

Hindsight: Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf

Armchair: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

Cropduster: Blow-up

Me: A Man for all Seasons




Academy: In the Heat of the Night

Peary: Bonnie and Clyde

TheyShoot: Playtime

Gerbert: Bonnie and Clyde/Belle de Jour

Hindsight: The Graduate

Armchair: Bonnie and Clyde

Cropduster: Wavelength

Me: Two for the Road




Academy: Oliver!

Peary: 2001: A Space Odyssey

TheyShoot: 2001: A Space Odyssey

Gerbert: 2001: A Space Odyssey/Once Upon a Time in the West

Hindsight: 2001: A Space Odyssey

Armchair: 2001: A Space Odyssey

Cropduster: 2001: A Space Odyssey

Me: Yellow Submarine




Academy: Midnight Cowboy

Peary: Once upon a Time in the West

TheyShoot: The Wild Bunch

Gerbert: The Wild Bunch/Z

Hindsight: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

Armchair: Easy Rider

Cropduster: The Wild Bunch

Me: Andrei Rublev

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And here are the seventies:




Academy: Patton

Peary: Five Easy Pieces

TheyShoot: Performance

Gerbert: Little Big Man/Andrei Rublev

Hindsight: Little Big Man

Armchair: MASH

Cropduster: The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes

Me: The Confession




Academy: The French Connection

Peary: McCabe and Mrs. Miller

TheyShoot: A Clockwork Orange

Gerbert: The Last Picture Show/The Conformist

Hindsight: The Last Picture Show

Armchair: The Last Picture Show

Cropduster: Two English Girls

Me: The Sorrow and the Pity




Academy: The Godfather

Peary: The Godfather

TheyShoot: The Godfather

Gerbert: The Godfather/The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie

Hindsight: The Godfather

Armchair: The Godfather

Cropduster: The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie

Me: The Godfather




Academy: The Sting

Peary: American Graffiti

TheyShoot: Mean Streets

Gerbert: The Long Goodbye/The Mother and the ****

Hindsight: American Graffiti

Armchair: The Exorcist

Cropduster: Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid

Me: Cries and Whispers




Academy: The Godfather, Part II

Peary: Chinatown

TheyShoot: The Godfather, Part II

Gerbert: The Godfather, Part II/Ali: Fear Eats the Soul

Hindsight: Chinatown

Armchair: Chinatown

Cropduster: Chinatown

Me: Murder on the Orient Express




Academy: One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest

Peary: The Man who Would be King

TheyShoot: Nashville

Gerbert: One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest/Every Man for Himself and God Against All (The Mystery of Kaspar Hauser)

Hindsight: The Man Who Would be King

Armchair: Nashville

Cropduster: Barry Lyndon

Me: Barry Lyndon




Academy: Rocky

Peary: The Front

TheyShoot: Taxi Driver

Gerbert: Network/Jonah Who will be 25 in the Year 2000

Hindsight: Network

Armchair: Taxi Driver

Cropduster: Kings of the Road

Me: All the President's Men




Academy: Annie Hall

Peary: Annie Hall

TheyShoot: Star Wars (by one place!)

Gerbert: Annie Hall/1900

Hindsight: Annie Hall

Armchair: Star Wars

Cropduster: Killer of Sheep

Me: Annie Hall




Academy: The Deer Hunter

Peary: Coming Home

TheyShoot: Days of Heaven

Gerbert: The Deer Hunter/The Tree of Wooden Clogs

Hindsight: Coming Home

Armchair: Coming Home

Cropduster: Perceval le Gallois

Me: Days of Heaven




Academy: Kramer vs. Kramer

Peary: Manhattan

TheyShoot: Apocalypse Now

Gerbert: Apocalypse Now/Vengeance is Mine

Hindsight: Manhattan

Armchair: Manhattan

Cropduster: Manhattan

Me: Apocalypse Now

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And here are the eighties




Academy: Ordinary People

Peary: Raging Bull

TheyShoot: Raging Bull

Gerbert: Raging Bull/Mon Oncle D'Amerique

Hindsight: Raging Bull

Armchair: Raging Bull

Cropduster: The Shining

Me: Tess




Academy: Chariots of Fire

Peary: Reds

TheyShoot: Raiders of the Lost Ark

Gerbert: Raiders of the Lost Ark/Excalibur

Hindsight: Raiders of the Lost Ark

Armchair: Raiders of the Lost Ark

Cropduster: Cutter's Way

Me: Raiders of the Lost Ark




Academy: Gandhi

Peary: E.T: the Extraterrestial

TheyShoot: Blade Runner

Gerbert: Diner/The State of Things

Hindsight: E.T: The Extaterrestial

Armchair: E.T: The Extraterrestial

Cropduster: Fanny and Alexander

Me: Pink Floyd: the Wall




Academy: Terms of Endearment

Peary: The Right Stuff

TheyShoot: Fanny and Alexander

Gerbert: King of Comedy/Fanny and Alexander

Hindsight: Fanny and Alexander

Armchair: The Right Stuff

Cropduster: Local Hero

Me: Fanny and Alexander




Academy: Amadeus

Peary: The Killing Fields

TheyShoot: Once upon a Time in America

Gerbert: The Terminator/A Passage to India

Hindsight: Amadeus

Armchair: This is Spinal Tap

Cropduster: Stranger than Paradise

Me: Splash




Academy: Out of Africa

Peary: Brazil

TheyShoot: Ran

Gerbert: Lost in America/Ran

Hindsight: Ran

Armchair: Blood Simple

Cropduster: Ran

Me: Shoah




Academy: Platoon

Peary: Platoon

TheyShoot: Blue Velvet

Gerbert: Blue Velvet/Summer (The Green Ray)

Hindsight: Platoon

Armchair: Platoon

Cropduster: Blue Velvet

Me: Aliens




Academy: The Last Emperor

Peary: The Empire of the Sun

TheyShoot: Wings of Desire

Gerbert: Raising Arizona/Tampopo

Hindsight: Broadcast News

Armchair: The Princess Bride

Cropduster: The Dead

Me: Angel Heart




Academy: Rain Man

Peary: A World Apart

TheyShoot: Dekalog

Gerbert: Dead Ringers/Wings of Desire

Hindsight: Who Framed Roger Rabbit

Armchair: The Last Temptation of Christ

Cropduster: Dekalog

Me: A Fish Called Wanda




Academy: Driving Miss Daisy

Peary: Henry V

TheyShoot: Do the Right Thing

Gerbert: Roger and Me/Jesus of Montreal

Hindsight: Glory

Armchair: Crimes and Misdemeanors

Cropduster: Drugstore Cowboy

Me: Henry V

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Academy: Dances with Wolves

Peary: Miller's Crossing

TheyShoot: Goodfellas

Gerbert: Goodfellas/The Nasty Girl

Hindsight: Goodfellas

Armchair: Goodfellas

Cropduster: Miller's Crossing

Me: C'est la Vie




Academy: The Silence of the Lambs

Peary: An Angel at my Table

TheyShoot: Reservoir Dogs

Gerbert: Jungle Fever/La Belle Noiseuse

Hindsight: The Silence of the Lambs

Armchair: Beauty and the Beast

Cropduster: The Lovers on the Bridge





Academy: Unforgiven

Peary: Enchanted April

TheyShoot: Unforgiven

Gerbert: Unforgiven/Raise the Red Lantern

Hindsight: Unforgiven

Armchair: Malcolm X

Cropduster: Unforgiven

Me: Bram Stoker's Dracula




Academy: Schindler's List

TheyShoot: Schindler's List

Gerbert: Schindler's List/The Piano

Hindsight: Schindler's List

Armchair: Schindler's List

Cropduster: The Piano

Me: Schindler's List




Academy: Forrest Gump

TheyShoot: Pulp Fiction

Gerbert: Pulp Fiction/Red

Hindsight: Forrest Gump

Armchair: Pulp Fiction

Cropduster: Pulp Fiction

Me: Pulp Fiction




Academy: Braveheart

TheyShoot: Heat

Hindsight: Babe

Armchair: Leaving Las Vegas

Cropduster: Before Sunrise

Me: Richard III




Academy: The English Patient

TheyShoot: Fargo

Hindsight: Fargo

Armchair: Fargo

Cropduster: How I got into an Argument-My Sex Life

Me: Matilda




Academy: Titanic

TheyShoot: L.A. Confidential

Hindsight: L.A. Confidential

Armchair: The Sweet Hereafter

Cropduster: Taste of Cherry

Me: L.A. Confidential





Academy: Shakespeare in Love

TheyShoot: The Big Lebowski

Hindsight: Shakespeare in Love

Armchair: Happiness

Cropduster: Flowers of Shanghai

Me: Saving Private Ryan




Academy: American Beauty

TheyShoot: Fight Club

Hindsight: American Beauty

Armchair: After Life

Cropduster: Eyes Wide Shut

Me: Time Regained

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And finally, here are the zeroes:




Academy: Gladiator

TheyShoot: In the Mood for Love

Hindsight: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon

Armchair: Almost Famous

Cropduster: Yi-Yi

Me: Requiem for a Dream




Academy: A Beautiful Mind

TheyShoot: Mulholland Drive

Hindsight: The Lord of the Rings: the Fellowship of the Ring

Armchair: The Centre of the World

Cropduster: Va Savoir

Me: The Lord of the Rings: the Fellowship of the Ring




Academy: Chicago

TheyShoot: Spirited Away

Hindsight: Chicago

Armchair: Far From Heaven

Cropduster: Atanarjuat (The Fast Runner)

Me: The Pianist




Academy: The Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King

TheyShoot: Oldboy (or Lost in Translation)

Hindsight: The Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King

Armchair: City of God

Cropduster: Master and Commander: the Far Side of the World

Me: The Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King




Academy: Million Dollary Baby

TheyShoot: The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Hindsight: Sideways

Armchair: The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Cropduster: Moolaade

Me: A Very Long Engagement




Academy: Crash

TheyShoot: The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (or A History of Violence)

Hindsight: Brokeback Mountain

Armchair: Brokeback Mountain

Cropduster: Kings and Queen

Me: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang




Academy: The Departed

TheyShoot: Pan's Labyrinth

Hindsight: The Queen

Armchair: United 93

Cropduster: A Prairie Home Companion

Me: Tell no One




Academy: No Country for Old Men

TheyShoot: There will be Blood

Hindsight: No Country for Old Men

Armchair: Juno

Cropduster: No Country for Old Men

Me: There will be Blood




Academy: Slumdog Millionaire

TheyShoot: The Dark Knight (or Wall-E)

Armchair: The Dark Knight

Cropduster: The Edge of Heaven

Me: Wall-E




Academy: The Hurt Locker

TheyShoot: The Hurt Locker

Armchair: Sita Sings the Blues


Me: Ponyo

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