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[butterscotchgreer]

Rachel and the Stranger is one of my favorites with Bill Golden, Jackie!!! I love his beautiful face in that one! I think that was the first movie of his that I ever saw too! I loved his shy character that wouldn't admit to loving Rachel, yet fought over her with Mr. Mitchum. Tsk tsk. Men! Heehee!

[CineMaven]

" 'Rachel and the Stranger' is one of my favorites with Bill Golden, Jackie!!! I love his beautiful face in that one! I think that was the first movie of his that I ever saw too! I loved his shy character that wouldn't admit to loving Rachel, yet fought over her with Mr. Mitchum. Tsk tsk. Men! Heehee! - BUTTERSCOTCH GREER.

 

Men indeed. Someone I know now says we are soulmates. He and I laugh and have an easy time of it. The main plus is that he knows a tremendous amount about old films and he and I can gab for hours in a stream-of-consciousness way about movies, but he has yet to PAY for dinner? Am I being old fashioned in thinking that if we go Dutch, then we?re just pals? Dear Abby...please help out an ol? Baby Boomer, Baby ?T.? You?re young with a different perspective.

 

"I saw the beginning of 'Young and Willing', but Bill's hair was driving me crazy and I had to stop watching." - JACK FAVELL

 

Whew! You too? What was Holden?s hair like in ?Young and Willing?? He didn?t have that buzzcut crew cut he had in ?The Proud and the Profane? did he? If something is askew with my actors...I tend to bail too. Glad I?m not the only one. I unequivocably think Harrison Ford's career has floundered because of his hair.

 

"I see such a different man in Holden in that movie than any before, and was wondering what happened to him. Was it simply growing as an actor, or did it have something to do with his age, or experience?"

 

Do you think his drinking problem started around this time? I don?t know his biography or what demons were chasing him. P.S., ?Golden? and Mitchum?s hair in ?Rachel and the Stranger? made me swoon. I am now revealing my hair fetish on a public message board. Somebody shoot me...please!

 

Holden made a movie with Frances Dee called "MEET THE STEWARTS" and they were an absolutely adorable couple in it...hair and all!

[JackFavell]

Oh I'm the same way! every time I looked up at the screen his hair was flopping in his face, and I wanted tofrush it aside to see that face! It was driving me crazy. At first I wasn't paying too close attention, but then, as I kept looking, I decided it wasn't worth the trouble to try and peer around that mop so I turned it off. Usually longish hair doesn't bother me, but in this case it did. You'd never know it was William Holden at all, because I literally never saw his cute kisser.

 

You know, we all talk over here about favorite actors and good looking men, and I realize that William Holden scores on both counts. He is definitely on my list of stars for my video.

[CineMaven]

[Bronxgirl48]

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Re: LISTS

Posted: Sep 5, 2011 12:27 AM

 

<<<<<You are too funny. I actually am attracted to Two For the Sea Saw in a probably not too good way. I identify a little too much with Shirley's kooky dancer with an ulcer living in New York and having dated too many of the wrong men. Nothing there I should relate to, hahahaaa!! If ONLY some man would say to me: "Use me, please!">>>>>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hear you, lol. Although in many respects I was practically a nun when I lived on 6th Avenue and 13th Street. The men in my life then included my married boss (nothing happened), an older European gentleman who looked like Oskar Homolka, brought me chocolates, but had all the sex appeal of Burt Mustin. Then there was a friend's dentist who thought that cleaning my teeth constituted an erotic experience, and several others who I've mercifully blotted out of my mind.

 

Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Sep 5, 2011 9:11 PM

[CineMaven]

:x :x KISSES FOR MY BRONXGIRL... :x :x

 

 

Dear Bronxita,

 

I miss those halcyon days we spent walking around Greenwich Village and going to the movies at the Cinema Village. I'll never forget us going to see "Emmanuelle" and in between smooches we played footsie. Oooh, you were such a baaaad girl. ( :-) And I loved it). Now by wearing dentures I don't get the eroticism of a dental cleaning but we did so many other naughty things that I will keep between you and I, and I will take to the grave (where I'm writing you from). You broke my heart when you moved out of the neighborhood...out of the state... out of my life. But we'll always have Poughkeepsie. And the Emergency Unit at Downstate.

 

I'lll love you forever...or until Vera Hruba Ralston gives me her answer,

 

Your Musty Man...Burtie :x

[Bronxgirl48]

OMG!

 

You've outdone yourself, Maven

 

I haven't come up for air yet.

 

So I guess that's Burt calling me on the phone in the, uh, dead of night, making weird gurgling noises. I should tell him to go away, and then maybe he'll stop. "I..always..do..what..you..want"

 

There's the signpost up ahead for me.

 

[CineMaven]

"I haven't come up for air yet..."

 

Uhmmm, yeah. That's what Burt told me.

 

 

Here is BRONXGIRL circa 1983.

 

Folks, don't believe the rumors that she dated Larry Mondello. (She's a pretty picky gal!) Here is one of her New York City beaux:

 

 

BRONXGIRL'S DENTIST: HIDEOUS KINKY

 

Gittel ain't got nuthin' on our Lady B. And not a Mitchum in sight. :-(

[JackFavell]

Hey, Bronxie, you mentioned *The Thing* the other day, and I am watching it for the first time today. You are right, I've been watching for only 10 minutes and am absolutely convinced that Hawks directed it, no question at all in my mind. The naturalistic overlapping banter, the female scientist laughing and teasing the military officer who's tied up, it all points to Hawks.

 

Not to belabor the point, but Bill's hair in *Young and Willing* seemed to have a mind of it's own, standing straight up where it shouldn't have as if it were under it's own power. It was like a separate entity.

 

 

I agree about his v.o.'s in *Sunset Blvd*. - they are exceptionally nuanced and humorously bitter. How does he retain that sweetness underneath it all? He and Milland could do the most vile things on earth, but still keep their innate charm and grace, plus a little boyish appeal thrown in. They are both "too beguiling." I think Holden has sweetness in spades.

 

The scene that caught my eye most recently (out of a movie bursting with great scenes) is the one where he finally tells Betty the truth, inviting her over to 10086 SUNSET BLVD. to see for herself what's really going on. He is horrible, laughing at the pain he is causing, coming clean with a vengeance. But all along his derision is focused on himself, and this is what makes me cry every time I see it. It is selfless, or at least he thinks it is, the way he pushes her away. The kind, gentle way he takes her arm and guides her out the door - as if he were escorting her out of the gates of hell, and the grief stricken look on his face when she does leave break my heart. It's as if he were throwing the last good thing in his life away, and clinging to it at the same time.

 

I totally understand about Shirley. I really love those performances you mentioned, and I think it's tremendous that she broke from the chorus and actually became such a good actress, she is like no one else in the movies, and always seemed to have that natural quality in her. I don't think you can teach someone that.

 

Edited by: JackFavell on Sep 6, 2011 9:50 AM

[JackFavell]

Geez! Hawks just referenced himself!

 

"I saw Gary Cooper in Sergeant York."

 

!!!!

[Bronxgirl48]

The only Burt I, um, wouldn't come up for air with is Lancaster.

[butterscotchgreer]

Dear ol' Baby Boomer T (aka...Cinie-T),

 

Men indeed. Someone I know now says we are soulmates. He and I laugh and have an easy time of it. The main plus is that he knows a tremendous amount about old films and he and I can gab for hours in a stream-of-consciousness way about movies, but he has yet to PAY for dinner? Am I being old fashioned in thinking that if we go Dutch, then we’re just pals? Dear Abby...please help out an ol’ Baby Boomer, Baby “T.” You’re young with a different perspective.

 

What is really weird about this situation is that it happened to me about 2 years ago. I met this guy that had become friends with me in one of my classes and we had been hanging out for around 2 semesters and he said one day that we were soulmates. I didn't exactly know what to think about that, but found it sweet. Although I noticed he never paid for dinner or anything like that, either at first, he offered to as time moved on.. Later on, I found out that he really wanted to date me, that was just his way of saying it. You never know until you ask.

 

While I don't know too much about your story, I do know that you are not being too old-fasioned. I think the same way you do. If he is really your soulmate, then talk to him about how you feel inside. There is something so special about sharing things in common with your true soulmate. I know you are a fiesty lady who stands up for what you want. It's all up to you, Big T! If you do choose to talk to him, let me know what he says.....or another option is to drop him tiny hints without actually coming out with it all. Or have you done that yet?

 

P.S. Why haven't you said anything about this guy before?! Shame on you! Heehee!

[movieman1957]

*At least this proves Im not a floozy..*.

 

Who would possibly think of you as anything other than the young lady you are?

 

I have seen all the "Prime Suspect" but The Bride has not seen the last one. We have spent a lot of time with other British dramas. Inspectors Morse, Lewis and Lynley along with "Midsomer Murders" are filling are TV time now. We'll get there.

 

 

It's always lovely to see you here as it is not often enough.

[lavenderblue19]

Hi Bronxgirl- I think Monty was just too intense for the role. I've always thought of William Holden has having an underlying sense of humor. His light touch and humor were important to the story. RO and Alec did touch on the idea of other actors playing the role. They felt it was Holden's sense of humanity and kindness towards Norma that made him so right for the role.

[JackFavell]

I totally agree, laverderblue.

 

Happy B-day! Butter T! Are you the same birth sign or month as Greer? How fitting!

 

I agree with movieman, you aren't here often enough.

[Bronxgirl48]

Best September Virgo birthday wishes, Baby T. I missed HER TWELVE MEN today, drat!

[Bronxgirl48]

Great insight, lavenderblue, about Holden in SUNSET BOULEVARD.

 

Oh, dear, Pat Boone is taking all the "Italian" out of the Italian songs he's singing right now...I like Pat's sense of humor and his ability to make fun of himself, as in GOODBYE, CHARLIE, and enjoy his rendition of "My Love is Like A Red, Red Rose" in JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH but I can't take this MAIN ATTRACTION vanilla-ness, lol.

 

The frogs are mating like mad on our school lawn.

 

Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Sep 9, 2011 9:22 PM

[Bronxgirl48]

I didn't realize Nancy Kwan was in THE MAIN ATTRACTION, for goodness sake. I know Pat wanted to stretch himself, but he's not quite believable as a drifter in this movie.

 

Looking forward to the Danny Thomas version of THE JAZZ SINGER. It's going to be filled with wonderful, heartfelt schmaltz and I know I'll love it, lol.

 

Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Sep 9, 2011 9:25 PM

[JackFavell]

Goodness knows, Danny is probably the only one who could do that modern version without coming off as utterly ridiculous. A little schmaltz is good for you.

 

Did I just say that? Oh, no, I'm my grandmother.

[MissGoddess]

I'm so glad you liked Night Key after all. I was really enjoying the supporting cast and Samuel S. Hinds, well, CinemAva ought to see her boy in this!

[Bronxgirl48]

NIGHT KEY was very enjoyable. Not only Boris and that supporting cast, but the direction was clever and lively. The "sci-fi" aspects were fun. I never knew Warren Hull was so good-looking. He and lovely Jean Rogers made an attractive couple. Yes, Sam, oh dear, and the look on his face when Boris asks him why he's doing what he's doing, is priceless. Thank you for bringing this movie to my attention. because there actually are a lot of Karloff films I've yet to see.

 

[Bronxgirl48]

You know which Karloff film I'd really love to see? BUSINESS AND PLEASURE, with Will Rogers! Boris plays "Sheik". I'm not sure if that's just a catchy name, or he's really some sort of minot desert Valentino, ha! (somehow I doubt it, lol) Joel McCrea's in it, too.

 

THE JAZZ SINGER, well, I love Danny, but as Jerry Golding he certainly knows his vocal limitations as a cantor, lol, because he doesn't have the voice for Kol Nidre. Oy vey! (and in BIG CITY, as Cantor David Feldman, he sings it again, and Margaret O'Brien groans, "Kol Nidre...." (only because she wants the cantor to swing a little, ha!) I'm wondering what Danny Kaye or Eddie Fisher could have done with THE JAZZ SINGER. But there's no denying Danny's genuine emotional connection with an audience. Peggy Lee! She is SO great. (her gowns were lovely) I liked how Curtiz contrasted the rich, somber tones of the Golding family home with the more garish colors of "show biz".

[MissGoddess]

Wow, I never even heard of *Business and Pleasure*. Talk about a strange pairing! But I'd love to see it.

 

I had to start watching something else partway through *The Jazz Singer*. It didn't hold my interest, in spite of Peggy, who looked creamy (and Curtiz always makes a visually compelling film). I've seen *Big City* before and once was enough.

[MissGoddess]

 

Sammy was also pretty naughty in *Destry Rides Again*.

[butterscotchgreer]

*You're absolutely right about Danny, that's why I'm looking forward to THE JAZZ SINGER. I don't know anything about this version, but I'll take Danny Thomas over even Al Jolson and of course Neil Diamond. Ah, schmaltz, lol. Good for the soul and the stomach. Cholesterol-schlesterol.*

Oh my goshly, Bronxie, its so weird you say that, because I just got into a discussion with my dad over this. I totally love the Danny version of The Jazz Singer (1952) with Peggy Lee. It's my favorite! Although The original Jazz Singer had its own kind of ingenious flair, I could never really fully get into Al Jolsen's voice as a preference and the 1952 version is just too cute to resist! My dad, on the other hand grew up in the 70's being obsessed with Neil Diamond, so of course, he has that version of The Jazz Singer. He thinks its just the bees knees!But I think they canged the story way too much in the Diamond version. I think you will really like The Danny Thomas versin!



How cute is this scene!?

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd504/danielregie/the-Jazz-Singer_1952.jpg

Edited by: butterscotchgreer on Sep 12, 2011 5:32 PM