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New Book 100 Greatest westerns and 5 more you never heard of


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{font:Verdana, Arial, sans-serif}Saw this in B&N the other day thought there were quite a few questionable entries besides the few modern ones I wouldn't include:

 

here the list and a link http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3425603

 

 

1. Once Upon A Time In The West (1968)

2. The Searchers (1956)

3. Red River (1948)

4. High Noon (1952)

5. Shane (1953)

6. Unforgiven (1992)

7. Johnny Guitar (1954)?

8. The Wild Bunch (1969)

9. Bad Day At Black Rock (1955)modern

10. Greed (1924)

11. Stagecoach (1939)

12. McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971)

13. No Country For Old Men (2007)modern

14. They Died With Their Boots On (1941)

15. Will Penny (1968)?

16. The Treasure Of The Sierra Madre (1948)

17. Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid (1969)?

18. The Ox-Bow Incident (1943)

19. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)

20. Monte Walsh (1970)?

21. Broken Arrow (1950)

22. My Darling Clementine (1946)

23. Lonely Are The Brave (1962)modern

24. Rancho Notorious (1952)

25. John Ford Cavalry Trilogy: Fort Apache (1948), She Wore A Yellow Ribbon (1949), Rio Grande (1950)

26. The Gunfighter (1950)

27. Rio Bravo (1959)

28. Winchester '73 (1950)

29. Hondo (1953)

30. The Man From Laramie (1955)

31. Ulzana's Raid (1972)

32. Blood On The Moon (1948)

33. Major Dundee (1965)

34. The Magnificent Seven (1960)

35. The Naked Spur (1953)

36. Sergio Leone Dollars Trilogy: A Fist Full Of Dollars (1964), For A Few Dollars More (1965), The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly (1966)

37. Bend Of The River (1952)

38. Tumbleweeds (1925)

39. Hombre (1967)

40. Hud (1963)modern

41. Don't Fence Me In (1945)?

42. Dodge City (1939)

43. The Big Sky (1952)

44. Ride The High Country (1962)

45. Open Range (2003)?

46. The Westerner (1940)

47. Last Of The Mohicans ?

48. The Shootist (1976)?

49. Destry Rides Again (1939)?

50. The Professionals (1966)

51. Tall In The Saddle (1944)

52. Ride Lonesome (1959)

53. The Plainsman (1936)

54. Cat Ballou (1965)?

55. The Tall T (1957)

56. Jesse James (1939)?

57. Little Big Man (1970)?

58. Riders Of The Purple Sage (1941)?

59. The Alamo (1960)

60. The Far Country (1955)

61. Three Godfathers (1948)

62. Appaloosa (2008)?

63. Forty Guns (1957)?

64. 3:10 To Yuma (1957)

65. Gunfight At The O.K. Corral (1957)

66. Sergeant Rutledge (1960)?

67. Little Big Horn (1951)?

68. Seven Men From Now (1956)

69. Santa Fe Trail (1940)

70. The Paleface (1948)?

71. Angel And The Badman (1947)?

72. Duel In The Sun (1946)?

73. How The West Was Won (1962)?

74. The Big Trail (1930)

75. Paint Your Wagon (1969)?

76. Tombstone (1993)?

77. Hearts Of The West (1975)modern

78. Hang 'em High (1968)?

79. Ten Wanted Men (1955)?

80. The Virginian (1946)

81. Lone Star (1996)modern

82. Run Of The Arrow (1957)?

83. The Vanishing American (1925)

84. The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)?

85. Jeremiah Johnson (1972)

86. Cowboy (1958)

87. Barbarosa (1982)?

88. One-Eyed Jacks (1961)?

89. Bad Company (1972)?

90. Ramrod (1947)

91. The Long Riders (1980)

92. The Missing (2003)?

93. Four Faces West (1948)

94. The Ballad Of Little Joe (1993)modern/cartoon

95. The Covered Wagon (1923)

96. No Name On The Bullet (1959)?

97. Brokeback Mountain (2005)modern

98. Western Union (1941)

99. Support Your Local Sheriff (1969)

100. The Kentuckian (1955)?{font}

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> {quote:title=wouldbestar wrote:}{quote}:_| Where is *The Big Country?* While I applaud the inclusion of some of the modern Westerns, as long as this classic is left off, it's bogus. X-( (

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> Edited by: wouldbestar on Jul 29, 2011 1:41 PM

THANK YOU, wouldbestar!!!

 

I was just about to post somethin' here that I posted in the "Five most understated Westerns" thread in regard to this.

 

In FACT, I think I WILL repost it here....here goes:

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Hey, and speakin' of "underrated Westerns", maybe you can answer me this...

 

Why has it seemed to me that "The Big Country" has always been somewhat "dissed" and never mentioned in the same breathe as some of the other recognized great Western classics/epics?

 

 

It has a great storyline, a great cast, great acting(Chuck Connors was never better), great dialogue, great score, and great cinematography...especially the fistfight scene between Peck and Heston when Wyler pulls the camera way back and you see them fighting in the distance and in silhouette...among many other great shots throughout the film.

 

 

And so, am I wrong here about my perception of how this film is usually somewhat unfairly received, or what? ________________________________________________________________________________

 

(...good, huh?!)

 

 

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Interesting if, at times, odd collection. I agree some of them don't quite belong. I wouldn't put "OUATITW" at the top but that is just me. I certainly wouldn't have Ford's three cavalry films in one listing because they don't really belong together. The only real benefit is making room for some others.

 

One can argue order all day but I agree with quite a few of your question marks.

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Any list is to invite discussion. And I would not list *Once Upon a Time ...* as No. 1, but that's me.

What the list does accomplish is a thread of discussion.

I personally enjoy the idea of bringing a more serious, realistic vision to the Western. For example, Westerns like *Bad Compan*y (Jeff Bridges) and *The Assassination of Jesse James ...* (Brad Pitt) bring a darker, edgy vision of the genre, and I like that.

Fact is, not enough Westerns are made nowadays, and I miss the hell out of 'em ...

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Dargo and wouldbestar, I'm completely with you on *The Big Country*. So three votes for *The Big Country*. It's fun to compare this film with *Red River* and *The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance*, since all three contrast an old-fashioned, more Darwinian way of life with the coming of law, civilization, a "kinder, gentler" approach. *Liberty Valance* is the most pessimistic of the three.

 

Cigarjoe, thanks so much for posting the list. However I'd define a western, *Greed* would not qualify as one, and *Hud* is a modern family drama, even if it takes place on a ranch. There are some surprising inclusions. *Monte Walsh*: not bad, but really? *Paint Your* *Wagon*: really??? I'd find a place for:

 

*The Big Country*

*Man of the West*

*Firecreek*

*Vera Cruz*

*The Hanging Tree*

*Devil's Doorway*

 

If we're including modern films set in the West, then definitely *Border Incident*. If we're including musicals, forget *Paint Your Wagon* and include *Calamity Jane* and *The Harvey Girls*, with stars who can actually sing.

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Kingrat, I agree about *The Big Country* and the others you listed that should be included. In fact, any list that leaves off *Man of the West*, let alone pushes it out of the top 20 is crazy!!!! :D

 

I've never seen *Greed* but I had no idea it had anything to do with the old West...is that its setting?

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I haven't seen Greed all the way through, but I just read the synopsis of the film. I think it must start in some urban area in California somewhere but ends up in Death Valley.

 

I never really think of it as a western since it takes place in early 1900's California.

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I saw it years ago. (I may still have a tape of it. Hmmmm) but I never thought of it as a western. The end is set in Death Valley and it sure looks realistic. I don't recall the time setting being much different from its own time. It certainly didn't feel like a western.

 

Edited by: movieman1957 on Aug 5, 2011 10:02 PM

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For some reason I remember *Greed* starting in San Francisco before moving down to Death Valley.

 

But my memory isn't what it used to be.

 

The downside of getting older, I guess.

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> {quote:title=lzcutter wrote:}{quote}For some reason I remember *Greed* starting in San Francisco before moving down to Death Valley.

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> But my memory isn't what it used to be.

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> The downside of getting older, I guess.

Your memory is still good. That's the way Greed goes.

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Here's another list from Western writers. But some of these picks in the top 20 are a joke in my opinion.

 

To be continued...

 

WWA Top 100 Westerns

 

1. Shane

2. High Noon

3. The Searchers

4. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

5. Dances with Wolves

6. The Wild Bunch

7. Red River

8. Tombstone

9. The Magnificent Seven

10. Open Range

 

11. Treasure of the Sierra Madre

12. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

13. True Grit

14. The Shootist

15. Stagecoach (1939)

16. Unforgiven

17. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

18. The Outlaw Josey Wales

19. Ride the High Country

20. Jeremiah Johnson

 

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/06/13/idUS16088413-Jun-2008PRN20080613

 

Jake in the Heartland

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These I'd keep...

 

Shane

 

High Noon

 

The Searchers

 

Red River

 

True Grit

 

The Shootist

 

Unforgiven

 

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

 

The Outlaw Josey Wales

 

Ride the High Country

 

Tombstone

 

Subject to change...

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I would keep the following on the list (but not necessarily in that order):

 

1. Shane

3. The Searchers

6. The Wild Bunch

8. Tombstone

9. The Magnificent Seven

10. Open Range

 

12. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

13. True Grit

15. Stagecoach (1939)

16. Unforgiven

17. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

18. The Outlaw Josey Wales

19. Ride the High Country

 

I would add the following:

 

The Culpepper Cattle Company

Nevada Smith

Little Big Man

Rio Lobo

Rio Bravo

The Westerner

 

 

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:) Thanks for including *The Culpepper Cattle Company*. I've always felt it has a real feel of the situation; the men appear dusty and unkempt as they should and there's dust flying all around. You'd think you were there if not for the lack of certain scents. It might not be a classic but it is interesting.

 

Edited by: wouldbestar on Sep 9, 2011 8:52 PM

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Let's see, I may not be as well-researched in westerns as I am with suspense, and drama, however, I've ALWAYS been a western fan. Ever since my old man called me into the living room to watch True Grit, when I was about eight years old. So, with that in mind, these are a few of my personal favorites...

 

 

 

 

 

The Searchers

 

 

Rio Bravo

 

 

Stagecoach

 

 

Unforgiven

 

 

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

 

 

High Noon

 

 

The Sons of Katie Elder

 

 

El Dorado

 

 

Tombstone

 

 

Red River

 

 

Fort Apache

 

 

...uhh, lol! I've seen alot more westerns than this, but these are the ones that spring to mind at the moment. Yeah, John Ford and Howard Hawks pretty-much dominate the top spots, with a few others sprinkled about.

 

 

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Howdy cigarjoe,

 

I find the "list" of 100 Westerns a kind of interesting because I find that some of the Westerns on the list don't belong on the list. Anyway, please excuse my butting in here but I would like to add another film to the list. The film is called...RIDE THE MAN DOWN and it was adapted from a Luke Short novel and the very talented Mary Mc Call, Jr, wrote the screenplay. It was directed by old-timer, Joseph Kane and the smart money people on the Western genre always considered he and Jesse Hibbs to be the best directors on grade "B" Westerns. Anyway, the movie is VERY WELL done.

 

All the Best!.....and you don't have to respond to my post but I had to get that out off my gut.

 

Ah!.....The THRILL of it ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

lanetemple

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