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it's mid 70's, action/suspense...basic theme is an older couple driving a 72ish red chevrolet convertible towing an airstream travel trailer ... then, they are road-raged/tormented by 2 (maybe 3) black custom vans,


Possibly "Stingray" from 1978.




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Thank you mongo:


Some ugly little kids turn into beautiful adults, and some pretty kids turn into ugly adults, but in her case a pretty kid, turned into quite a beautiful young lady. I checked IMDb, but they had very little on her. Where do you get this stuff?



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In your Birthdays today, you say Terry Moore claimed to be married to Howard Hughes.

I've heard that too, after he died. So he couldn't dispute it.


I remember in the early 50's, she was married to Glenn Davis, a football star and then to Stuart Cramer. They have a son, Grant, who's an actor.

Jean Peters was once married to Cramer also, and then to Howard Hughes.


So when did Moore and Hughes get together and if there was no divorce, as she claimed (for all that money, no doubt!), then everybody was committing bigamy..... And, Grant and his brother are illegitimate... (BTW, I don't really believe in illegitimate children, only illegitimate parents!)....

Tis a puzzlement!!!!




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Hi again Mongo,


Further to the Hughes/Moore and Peters/Cramer switcheroo:


I remember quite well the big change partners and wed situation between Lana/Fernando and Arlene/Lex in 1952.... I think I've written about it somewhere here before.

At a dance Lex asked Lana to dance and they shimmied and shaked quite well together...

Fernando got jealous and beat up Lana and then promptly dated Arlene.

Fernando and Lana broke up.

Lex and Arlene divorced.

Fernando and Arlene married and had Lorenzo.

Lana and Lex married.


Moral of the story:- by 1958, everybody was divorced and married to someone else.


Hollywood - - don't you love it!!




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Larry, what a triangle indeed, although it is all quite amusing.

Picked up some data on Terry Moore:


Howard Hughes--Hubby

Moore was somewhat guarded in her responses relating to Howard Hughes, but nonetheless did have a few comments. "I became involved with Howard Hughes in 1949. So, since I was involved with Howard, that's why when I met Jimmy Dean I kept him as a friend. I actually married Howard in 1949, and we never were divorced."

When Hughes died, Terry Moore's name was mentioned as a possible heir to the Hughes fortune. "This is not contested any more. I never divorced him. I never sued anybody. They sued me. I answered the suit, and proved I was married to him, and was his legal widow.

At this juncture, Jerry Shivers, co-author of Moore's new book, interrupted the Hughes line of questioning. He said simply, "What you're going into now has been, what they say in court, 'asked and answered and proven', so there's no need to go into this right now." Moore interjected, "I've written it out of my system." Evidently, I'd touched some sort of nerve, and was advised at this time that further answers to inquiries about Hughes could be found in Moore's book, The Beauty and the Billionaire (1984) and her new one, The Passions of Howard Hughes (1996).


Life After Howard

After Howard Hughes, Terry Moore was married two more times. Though she felt Tyrone Power was the nicest man she ever knew, and John Wayne the manliest, her spouses were men by the name of Glen Davis and later Stuart Cramer. At the present time Moore remains unmarried, but is quite proud of her two children by Cramer, Stuart, Jr. (age 32) and Grant (age 33). Moore is also a grandmother of two children, ages eight and ten. All of her family members reside conveniently in California, where she is able to see them frequently.

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Hey Mongo,


Thanks for that reply and that picture - it screams "Starlet".......


Well, as much as I've always liked Terry Moore (she was very good in "Peyton Place"), something doesn't add up here.

If she married Howard Hughes in 1949 and never divorced him, then all her subsequent husbands and the American law system are idiots.

How can she marry 2 or 3 more times and the Courts don't ask for divorce papers?

Doesn't the minister/justice ask during the ceremony, "If anyone knows of any impediment to this union, speak up"....


Having her lawyer handy during that interview and him interrupting to kybosh any deep interview questions into her HH marriage smacks of "somebody's lying here"...


Furthermore, I know Stuart Cramer is no dummy -- very smart oil tycoon. He ain't marrying someone else's wife!!



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Larry, I'm afraid some would say that the picture screams "Harlot".


I also always liked Terry Moore. I get a kick out of her childish manner. No doubt that she spiced up the movie "Peyton Place". Also good in "Come Back Little Sheba" for which she was Oscar nominated.


Your logic makes a lot of sense regarding her 'marriage' to Howard Hughes. I just wonder how much money she may have received?

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Very true, but to really appreciate the full range of Terry's acting chops, you just gotta take a gander at "Shack Out on 101".

It's just not all that often that philandering truck drivers, weight lifting hash-slingers, insecure physicists, speargunning snorkellers & coldwar spies can hang out at a grundgy beachside beanery, discussing philosophy, politics and ogling Madame Moore in her bikini.

Did I mention Lee Marvin stealing the scene for nearly 80 minutes straight?

Magic moments, to say the least!

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Happy Holidays Mongo,


Yes, some would say 'harlot', although lots would say starlet and harlot are similys or at least metaphors...


I've heard the figure $5 million but then that was from a couple of sources that really don't know for sure.

Good luck to her whatever she got.


Yes, "Come Back, Little Sheba" was marvellous; haven't seen it in decades, must give it another viewing.



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[nobr]Say Mongo,

The mention elsewhere on the boards of the profoundly moving classic, All Quiet On the Western Front (1930) starring Lew Ayres in his finest role, got me thinking--yes, that's wood burning![/nobr] ;)


Could you please fill in some of the blanks on the nearly forgotten career and life of Ayres' costar in this movie, actor Louis Wolheim? His appearance and acting have always been striking to me, though I don't know much about him. I've recently discovered that he originated the lead role in Eugene O'Neill's play, The Hairy Ape---a part that he seems born to have played, though Mr. Wolheim appears to have died long before the movies were ready to take a crack at that play, (though William Bendix gave it a good try in the forties). Thanks in advance for anything else that you might unearth.[/nobr]


Btw, Wolheim can be seen this month on TCM as part of the Jean Arthur SOTM with a very young Joel McCrea as well in The Silver Horde (1930) at 8pm on Tues., Jan. 9th and in Danger Lights on Tue., Jan. 23rd at 8pm. I recently found The Silver Horde on a bargain dvd at my supermarket and thought that the Alaskan setting and Wolheim to be splendid diversions in this very early talkie. [/nobr]


Louis Wolheim, Thespian. Not pretty, but quite good.

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Christine, in the movie "3 Godfathers" are you referring to the part when the cowboy rocks the baby? If so, he is singing "Streets of Laredo". Or are you referring to one of the hymns?


Moira, I'm still researching the wonderful Louis Wolheim.

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It is likely "Streets of Laredo" that you are thinking of. It is in "Three Godfathers" and is used extensively in "Bang the Drum Slowly"


In "Drum" the pitcher Piney Woods even sings the ballad at one point.


It is one of DeNiro's first films and he and Michael Moriarity are wonderful in it. Vincent Gardenia deserved the best supporting nomination that he received.


When folks here post that there are no good films made in the 1970s, this is one I always think of.


The lyrics:

As I walked out on the streets of Laredo.

As I walked out on Laredo one day,

I spied a poor cowboy wrapped in white linen,

Wrapped in white linen as cold as the clay.


"I can see by your outfit that you are a cowboy."

These words he did say as I boldly walked by.

"Come an' sit down beside me an' hear my sad story.

"I'm shot in the breast an' I know I must die."


"It was once in the saddle, I used to go dashing.

"Once in the saddle, I used to go gay.

"First to the card-house and then down to Rose's.

"But I'm shot in the breast and I'm dying today."


"Get six jolly cowboys to carry my coffin.

"Six dance-hall maidens to bear up my pall.

"Throw bunches of roses all over my coffin.

"Roses to deaden the clods as they fall."


"Then beat the drum slowly, play the Fife lowly.

"Play the dead march as you carry me along.

"Take me to the green valley, lay the sod o'er me,

"I'm a young cowboy and I know I've done wrong."




"From here on out, I rag on nobody" Henry "Author" Wiggen

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