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I Object! 'The Way We Were'?????


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'The way we were'? Seriously!?? Barbarously sappy 70's schlock is 'ESSENTIAL'? Meanwhile movies like "the Big Clock' remain ignored. A Movie with no wasted lines, amazing characters, taught suspense, camera angles that propel the story, and Elsa Lanchester's perfect flighty artist!

 

 

 

 

 

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Speaking of The Way We Were, can anyone tell me why Robert Redford's military uniform keeps changing? First it was all white (that, at least, told me he was in the Navy). Then tan. Then black. Then tan again...and it's just an hour into the movie.

 

I obviously have no knowledge about military dress, but I'm curious if anyone can educate me.

 

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Tan was the color of a Navy officer's "everyday" uniform. White was the color of his "dress" uniform. So depending on circumstances he could be wearing both uniforms on the same day. What color uniform worn could also depend on the climate.

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Thank you!

 

This may have been a pick of Drew Barrymore's (I missed the intro/discussion before the movie started). I remember last year Robert telling Alec Baldwin that he didn't think the 1962 remake of Mutiny on the Bounty was an Essential, so Alec chose that one...

 

I have to say that Barbra looks lovely in this film.

 

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Today was the first time i seen 'the way we were'. I enjoyed it. The last time it was on TCM , I missed it.

 

I only thing I dislike is Drew Barrymore on the Essentials. Why can't Robert Osbourne host the Essentials with a different guest every week ?

 

I think it will be a good idea. what do you all think ? Osbourne with a different guest hosting the essentials every week.

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Schmaltz IS a Hollywood essential. Many of the "stars" most of you list as your favorites here wouldn't have reached that status without it. Many of their whole CAREERS centered around schmaltz. It's probably the #1 staple of classic and modern movie makers. How many times, in this forum, did somebody mention the "chemistry" or "fire" between some actor and actress in some movie? Schmaltz! And *The Way We Were* is the ACME of schmaltz! Right down to it's sticky, thick maple syrupy theme song. So, why NOT an ESSENTIAL?

 

 

NOTE: If some of you don't understand the word "SCHMALTZ" in relation to movies, think "CHICK-FLICK"

 

 

Sepiatone

 

 

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I've found this list of *The Best Sappy Movies Ever* on Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/The-best-sappy-movies-EVER/lm/2ICNBCU34LLE9

 

Some on the list has recently aired on TCM...

"The Shop Around the Corner"

"Funny Face"

"The Mirror Has Two Faces" (another Barbara Striesand movie)

 

tedoffensive, for your amusement, most on Amazon's are only worth $0.01 :^0

So does that mean they are not even worth a blank DVD to record them on? So what are the value of the *worst* sappy movies? :0

 

"While You Were Sleeping" is aptly named. Zzzzzz.

 

Edited by: hamradio on Jun 17, 2012 1:09 PM

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Ugh this film is so uncomfortable to watch, my mom and I rented it a while back because she said she was a huge fan etc.. we started watching it and we could not bear it. The characters have no chemistry together and her character is written as if she's based on some insane woman with no rational responses to what she's feeling, I studied politics and have opinions about history etc.. but the way she gets extremely defensive about a subject with the minimum provocation only that her boyfriends' friends are more ignorant about the subgect is strange, I don't see where this explosive arguments she has that are mainly one-sided come from. To me this doesn't feel like a classic film.

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Respectfully, Drkblue and Obrienmundy, I think what I object to is this being cast as an "Essential"movie. I agree that it has a place in the broad panorama of even 'very good' movies. Even watching the two hosts talking of the movie, they never moved beyond the fact that they liked the story. "Essential" to me entails there being at least three cinematic elements INCLUDING the story(perhaps,as one element) along with, say locations, casting, direction, costumes, editing, etc. that sets it far above others as an example to be emulated as a cinematic statement as a whole.

 

 

For instance, as I mentioned, The Big Clock (Milland, Laughton), which I could argue has a plethora of those elements working in unison to create a solid cinematic statement.

 

 

I'm just sayin.

 

 

And I agree with the poster who finds Barrymore tiresome. The LA accent (long 'a's, and not closing one's mouth at the end of words) drives me crazy.

 

 

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Funny Face Sappy??? I dont get that one. As far as TWWW, I've never liked the movie. Saw it when it came out. Once was enough........

 

Does Drew Barrymore ever change her make-up?? Seems like she has the same eye shadow on every week. Maybe they film the intros all in one day?

 

Edited by: Hibi on Jun 18, 2012 12:07 PM

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I've got to say that the title song, Streisand's treatment of it, and the timing of it in the film have got to be just about the best ever. Is that enough to make it an Essential? Maybe not, but it doesn't hurt.

 

Edited by: finance on Jun 18, 2012 4:00 PM

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Ted, although I would not personally select THE WAY WE WERE as an Essential film, I could defend it for the following historical reasons:

 

 

1. It is probably the best-known romantic film of the 1970s. Granted, the 70s was not a great period for romantic movies.

 

 

2. It showcases two big stars of the time, Barbra Streisand and Robert Redford, at perhaps the height of their popularity.

 

 

As to there being more compelling reasons to pick other films, I agree.

 

 

 

 

 

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The Way We Were is set in three different decades: The 1930's, 1940's, and most of the movie takes place in the 1950's. During the 1970's, there were few movies set in the present time.

 

 

The best line in the movie is when Barbara yells at Robert, "Hubbel, people ARE their principles!" She says this because most of the characters believe that the conflict and choas of the Blacklist does not concern them, personally. They believe they can be "sweet and cool" and keep right on living in their Happy-La-La-Land. They all claim that everyone else is a Communist. (That's about the worst thing a person could be accused of being back in the '50's)

 

 

 

 

 

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The problem with American Communism in those days was that Soviet Russia was in charge of it and running it. If it had not had that direct Russian connection and control, it would have been just another political party. For example, like the American Socialist Party, which wasn't harassed and wasn't connected to Moscow bosses.

 

A lot of younger people today don't realize the strong Soviet connection to the American Communist Party, which was the reason for the HUAC hearings.

 

A similar thing could happen again, if in future years we learn that thousands of Americans are members of some group, such as The Friends of China, and then we learn the leaders of their organization are taking orders directly from the leaders of China. Yikes! Or, American Friends of the Middle East, being controlled by the government of Saudi Arabia. Yow!

 

It was the foreign control that caused the trouble for the American Communists, whose rank and file were mostly na?ve and idealistic, and they weren't fully aware that the Russians were running the American Communist Party as a colonial arm of the Soviet government.

 

As far as socialism goes, every American is a socialist if they cash their Social Security check every month and make use of Medicare and other government tax-supported programs.

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