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I recall several years ago that some very famous female actors, such as, Cher, Meg Ryan, etc. were going to remake, the 1939 version of THE WOMEN which stared Joan Crawford, Norma Shearer, Rosalind Russell, Joan Fontain, among others.

Does anyone have any updates on this project?

 

If it's done, I certainly hope that they follow the same concept in which the movie is about men and women, but not one man appears in this movie. Good movie for this era of glitz, glamour, love and infidelity.

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Re: Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 16,2004 12:05 PM

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Spence I agree with you about hardy kruger. he was magnificent as Dorfmann, " that miserable little Kraut" with the sliderule. His performance, along with that of Jimmy and Richard Attenborough, were the main reason that I also have watched this flick too many times. Did you ever wonder whether Dorfmann ever had kids named Fred and Kent (Flounder) who attended Faber College? Remember that Kent was a legacy at Delta because his bro Fred was also a Delta.

 

 

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Re: Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 15,2004 6:59 AM

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Hope this takes? Anyway, you loyal TCM-ITES have no idea as to just how many more re-makes are a comin'???

However, the most "asinine," idea & looking from it's already being shown trailers, is "Guess Who?"

You guessed it folks. A re-make of what was of course not only the grand finale & also 9th OSCAR nomination-(posthumously released) of *"The Great: Spencer Tracy's," last & 74th motion picture!!! Get this, we have comic Bernie Mac in his role??? & a kid of whom is basically the flavor of the month in Tinsel-Town-(or whats left of it) Ashton Kushner-(I think he was on tv's "70's show" As well as mags. such as "Teen Beat?" Yeah, he certainly sounds like he can fill *Poitier's shoe's too. Not to mention, Mac in *Tracy's role? & on top of which, there is nada a role of stature in *Kate's slot either this time out. It's basically Mac & this kid.

At least with last summer's "M. Candidate" (**1/2-out of four) there was substance & an effort. Plus, *Streep-(OSCAR Record Holder for most nominations td, with>13)

As for *Jimmy Stewart's '65 "Flight of Phoenix," re-hash. I've seen that more times than I can remember. Terrific Adventure. However, sorry to say, we only have Dennis Quaid, as far as any star quality on hand this time out. For you cinephiles, you'll recall the huge international cast & Ian Bannen earned his sole shot at an OSCAR for-it.-(I've always strongly felt Hardy Kruger more deserving, myself) However, rest of this cast is no heavyweight one. But as Mongo said, the cannot ruin the original

I am a fan of Meg though-(I must confess. Next to "Marvelous Michelle Pfeiffer," she's just my own personal fav. of this era-(a distant 2nd though)

Of most of the celebs in cinema nowadays, Pfeiffer is among a handful that has the goods to be a classic star someday. Not so evident in Meg though. But I still adore her. Give her a chance though. Ryan was nominated for SAG Award 1994's "When a Man Loves a Woman"-("robbd," of an OSCAR nom. for same) & '96's powerful war-drama "Courage Under Fire," she more than carried her weight. I don't know details in casting on this long, long, planned re-make of "The Women" Soon as I know, you will though. See ya'

 

 

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Re: Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 15,2004 1:13 AM

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A remake of Willy Wonka and the Chocalate factory?? Reading that made me think of Sammy Davis singing The Candy Man Can which I just heard this week on my oldie station that song makes me so happy. Wonder if the long arm of technology will reach out and techno the factory and the happenings in it? Will the charm of the original remain intact? Perhaps with Depp in the lead he will try to see if something of substance is shot. Why remake something that doesn't honestly need updating. I mean, yes, remakes are as old as the studios themselves but when they remade movies back then the charm still held the appeal was classic, universal and it stood the test of time. Now a days they mutilate pictures and they certainly aren't universal they seem stuck where the original did not deserve to be seen in the same light. For example consider the remake of Where the Boys Are talk about mutilation and robbing the original of its story its value by calling the farce of a remake a remake. Now when they turn things around like The Preacher's Wife(The Bishop's Wife) there was entertainment or The Wiz(The Wizard of Oz) I think those remakes are justifiable and necessary to show the movie in a different point of view. However it seems Hollywood of today is out to do a hatchet job on movies of before and this should be a crime.

 

 

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Re: Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 14,2004 4:26 PM

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I'm looking forward to the new Willy wonka and the Chocolate Factory, I like Depp too so I don't think it will be too bad. I 've also seen trailers now for the remake of Flight of the Phoenix with Dennis Quaid, which might not be bad, but I don't know if they're changing anything or not.

 

 

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Re: Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 14,2004 3:29 PM

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No big deal. Remakes come and go and the original usually remains the champ.

 

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Re: Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 14,2004 3:19 PM

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Everyone forgets MGM remade THE WOMEN in 1956 as the musical THE OPPOSITE SEX with June Allyson in the Shearer role, Joan Collins as Crystal, Dolores Gray as Sylvia and a good supporting cast consisting of the wonderful Ann Sheridan, Joan Blondell and Agnes Moorehead. The film, although it had its moments (to me Sheridan came off the best) was a pale remake of the 1939 film. I think times have changed and women have changed and no matter who stars in this film, I just think this story line won't hold up with today's audiences.

 

 

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Re: Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 14,2004 3:12 PM

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Actually this is the second remake. It was done in the 50's with June Allyson and Joan Collins as the principals.It was also renamed: "The Opposite Sex". This version howqever, had male actors in it....HUGE mistake.

 

 

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Re: Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 14,2004 10:02 AM

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> Why can't

> Hollywood leave the best alone?

 

Because they're out of ideas, I guess. They're also re-doing Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory with the (IMO) slightly overrated Johnny Depp, which makes me wanna.... *eyeroll*

 

 

 

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Re: Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 13,2004 9:11 PM

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say it isn't so! a joke right? lolite.

 

 

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Re: Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 13,2004 8:40 PM

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I don't mean to sound like the Scrooge, but this re-make of The Women is a HUGE MISTAKE. Why can't Hollywood leave the best alone? I have the same questions that everyone has asked-Who will play Shearer's, Crawford's, Russell's, Goddard's parts? Who can fill those shoes today? NO ONE! I get so ticked off at today's Hollywood for messing with the classics. That's the reason why they are classics. BECAUSE THEY ARE DAMN GOOD! If this re-make turns out to be a bomb, that should be a wake up call for Hollywood. Get some damn talent over there. Get some creativity. If it comes in pill form, take it.

 

There maybe some of you out there that disagree with me. That's OK. I just needed to get this off of my chest.

 

 

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Re: Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 13,2004 9:51 AM

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Like Harlowkeatongirl, I am definitely a fan of Cate Blanchett. I read an article somewhere, I think it was the recent 'Premiere' magazine, that Ashley Judd, Sandra Bullock, Annette Bening (in Norma Shearer's role), Uma Thurman, and Queen Latifah are also involved in this remake. Mick Jagger is one of the producers! As much as I love Cate Blanchett, and the original film, I'm not sure I like the idea of a filmed remake. I would have like to have seen the recent Broadway play, but I just can't see a modern film version of this working. Meg Ryan?? Personally, I find her to be the blandest actress Hollywood has produced in the past 20 years or so.

 

I don't think a modern version would have a tenth of the wit and glamour of the original, but I guess I'd rather see this remake, as opposed to most of the schlock that ends up at the multi-plex. I'm not totally thrilled with the casting either. Sandra Bullock? I like her somewhat, but I don't think she's right for this. Anyway, proof again that Hollywood is completely devoid (or worse yet, AFRAID) of new ideas.

 

 

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Re: Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 13,2004 9:10 AM

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Well... I'm a fan of most anything Cate Blanchett does, so if they must do this, I'm glad she's in it. How about Nicole Kidman? Maybe Halle Berry?? Update this a little!

 

 

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Re: Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 13,2004 2:47 AM

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Who would Meg Ryan play? Certainly not Norma Shearers' part? She's far too un-timid to be bullied around by catty women.

 

 

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Meg Ryan, Cate Blanchett to re-do "The Women" Posted: Nov 11,2004 7:49 AM

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I attempted to post this story a few days ago, but given TCM was up to it's "Need fixing," editing tricks. It simply went bye, bye!?

This re-make of the 1939-(known justifiably as cinema's greatest yr.) classic drama "The Women" which has literally been kicking around Tinsel-Town for about a decade now. However, Meg Ryan-(1961-) was always attached to it, it now has possible upcoming OSCAR winner: Cate Blanchett-("The Aviator") & of course a few other ladies'

I'm no fan of all these re-makes,etc However, this one may be pretty good? Thank You

 

 

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The remake of the women should be interesting if nothing else. There are a lot of gender themes in the original that I don't think would fly today. Also the speed of the dialogue was one of the things that made the original so great and its not something done in film a lot these days. The only place I see that kind of thing these days is on the TV shows Gilmore Girls and The West Wing (to a lesser extent). I just don't think any version can be as good or even come close without that kind of banter. So it will be interesting to see if they change anything to the gender themes of the original and if they attempt to recreate the style of the original

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