Geostan Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Too bad it wasn't the CinemaScope version! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Just get some 4-inch wide black duct tape and tape strips across the top and bottom of your screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clore Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 > {quote:title=Geostan wrote:}{quote}Too bad it wasn't the CinemaScope version! One really has to wonder why Fox went through the trouble of cropping the credits with borders on all sides, only to lead viewers into what looked like an old 16mm pan-and-scan print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgeciff Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Very exciting film. Unfortunate that FOX provided only a squeezed/flat version of a CinemaScope production. The credits titles were non-anamorphic. FOX has been guilty of this on many of their widescreen films includng ones they are starting to release in their classic film series on MOD. Obviously either they don't care or don't want to spend extra money so we can see these films in their original aspect ratio. I personally would purchase this film if FOX released a wide screen version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValentineXavier Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 > {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote}Just get some 4-inch wide black duct tape and tape strips across the top and bottom of your screen. Fred, Cinemascope films aren't shot at 1.37:1, and then cropped top and bottom, like most 1.85:1 films are Cinemascope is shot with an anamorphic lens, at a OAR of 2.35:1. When it is made into 4x3, about 43% of the film is cropped off. So, your oft-repeated statement above cannot apply in this case, if it ever does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 No kidding! Another Fox film not shown in widescreen. Was glad to see it at least. What did everyone think of it or the Edward Arnold film before???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonDeWitless Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 > {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote}No kidding! Another Fox film not shown in widescreen. Was glad to see it at least. What did everyone think of ( 23 Paces)???? ick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonDeWitless Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 *Van Heflin* is *Joan Crawford* in *Sudden Fear!* as *James Stewart* in *Rear Window! in 23 Paces to Baker Street!!!!!* "See it, or don't!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clore Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Don't you mean Van Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonDeWitless Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 G-DAMMIT! I *ALWAYS DO THAT!*!!!!!!!!! I *ALWAYS* SAY HEFLIN WHEN I MEAN JOHNSON!!!!!! ALWAAAAAAAYS!!!!!! I'm leaving it though. It's kind of funny. -but thank you for pointing it out. Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on Oct 17, 2012 10:09 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Addy gets his Vans mixed up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonDeWitless Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 > {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote}Addy gets his Vans mixed up! EVERY TIME! EVERY DAMN TIME! I really don't mean to either. I'm one of those people who has to wiggle the hand he writes with to remind myself which way is right sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopBilled Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 In the article available on the TCM database page, this film is not called 23 PACES TO BAKER STREET, but instead is referred to as 23 STEPS TO BAKER STREET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonDeWitless Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Well, Paces sounds better to me. This would work if they updated it and made the playwright gay and blind and bitchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 The ending had echoes of Wait Until Dark and Rear Window, but seemed unnecessary (except to have a thrill filled climax) Why did the villain need to kill off Van anyway? You'd think they'd be trying to get out of town or something.... I did guess who Evans turned out to be........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 LOL. Bound for New Haven. Frederick Knott anyone? Does anything open in New Haven anymore??? I could see it as a play......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonDeWitless Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yeah, I forgot Wait Until Dark, but that did come a good bit later. It's almost as cheesy as this and Audrey Hepburn is twice as masculine as Van is in 23... I didn't make it to the end. The third reference to Plaisir d'Amour sent me screaming out of the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 LOL. Van faces the villain alone in his apt after telling Vera to get lost (again).......he WAS bitchy!!! Why the villain had to go after Van is what I dont understand. He didnt have anything he wanted (as in Dark)........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willbefree25 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I used to do the same, Addison, until I figured out: Heflin can act rings around Johnson. Works every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clore Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 > {quote:title=AddisonDeWitless wrote:}{quote}Well, Paces sounds better to me. > > This would work if they updated it and made the playwright gay and blind and bitchy. Johnson's character also has a line in the film where he tells another fog-bound character that they are 23 paces away from Baker Street. The IMDb has the title as "Paces" and that was what was on the credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clore Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 > {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote}The ending had echoes of Wait Until Dark and Rear Window, but seemed unnecessary (except to have a thrill filled climax) Why did the villain need to kill off Van anyway? You'd think they'd be trying to get out of town or something.... I did guess who Evans turned out to be........ Exactly. I was watching the scene and asking myself "Why does Evans have to do this?" Even if this person were caught and brought to trial, Hannon isn't exactly an eyewitness and Evans would have more to fear from his cohorts making an identification than from Hannon. Carefully worded so as not to reveal anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yes. LOL. Murder rap is much worse than kidnapping. And what did Van really know anyway that could hold up in court? By that time the jig was up and you'd think "Evans" would be hightailing it out of there, not risking arrest by visiting Van.... How did they know that Van even survived the bombed out bldg. scam? Things got a little too rushed towards the end. I didnt get why Van pretended the phone wasnt cut, though that was explained away (lamely) at the wrap up..... As for Vera Miles, I've never understood why she never had more of a career. She was a good actress. And I thought she was so pretty. Maybe she didnt want one. She has a few good scenes in this...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 It's OK to get those two "Vans" mixed up, Addy. They often took on similar movie roles. Just don't EVER confuse JOHN WAYNE and DAVID WAYNE! Anyway, it's not as bad as the guy I know who insisted those "Our Gang" and early LAUREL & HARDY films were produced by MAX Roach, and not HAL. Sepiatone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopBilled Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/94118/23-Paces-to-Baker-Street/articles.html The article must just be in error. It's written as 'Steps' twice in the article, then at the end it says 'Paces.' It should be noted in the thread that Van Johnson and Vera Miles reteamed for another British-style mystery three years later, WEB OF EVIDENCE. It has a 7.0 rating from users, compared to the 6.8 that 29 PACES receives: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052623/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clore Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I'm not surprised, I've tried to submit some corrections for other pages here but they have never been acknowledged or corrected. I've had more success with doing similarly at the IMDb, although some submissions there required months to be revised. I only attempt such things when I can document it. It would have been nice to see WEB OF EVIDENCE during that Jack Cardiff fest of a short time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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