FredCDobbs Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 (This is the replica ship used in the 1962 movie, Mutiny on the Bounty, and also in Pirates of the Caribbean.) (CNN) -- Navigating the raging winds of Hurricane Sandy, two MH-60 Jayhawk helicopter crews saved 14 people stranded in the Atlantic Ocean on Monday morning, but two people were still missing as of mid-morning, a Coast Guard spokesman said. Sixteen crew members of a tall ship used for classic adventure films faced a harrowing real-life drama Monday as Hurricane Sandy forced them to abandon ship about 90 miles off Cape Hatteras, North Carolina. Fighting waves towering 18 feet high, and winds of 40 mph, the crew from the HMS Bounty boarded two lifeboats, hoping for rescue as soon as possible. More here: http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/29/us/sandy-bounty-ship/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 CBC News in Canada reports sinking of Bounty. But sinking not yet confirmed. (CBC) Selerno said the two missing crew members are believed to be in cold water survival suits and life-jackets. He said the air search is being plotted based on wind direction and speed, and will be expanded. HMS Bounty sank several hours after the evacuation. The Coast Guard was originally told 17 people were on the Bounty but only 16 heat signatures were detected. They now say 16 people were on board. The boat's owner says there were 17 people on board. A U.S. Coast Guard MH-60 Jayhawk helicopter arrived on scene at approximately 6:30 a.m. and hoisted five people from the life-rafts. A second helicopter arrived and rescued nine more people. More here: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/10/29/ns-hms-bounty-hurricane-sandy.html?cmp=googleeditorspick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 ABC News in US also reports sinking of Bounty: (ABC) The ship left Connecticut last week for St. Petersburg, Fla. The crew had been in constant contact with the National Hurricane Center and tried to go around the storm, according to the director of the HMS Bounty Organization, Tracie Simonin. But the ship got caught in Sandy's fury and began taking on water. The crew was forced to abandon ship and get into two lifeboats, wearing survival suits and life jackets during the night, according to the Associated Press. The Bounty completely sank later this morning. More here: http://abcnews.go.com/US/sandy-sinks-tall-ship-14-rescued-missing/story?id=17588614 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkeee Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Wow, did not know that was the ship used for 'MUTINEY ON THE BOUNTY'! Such a beautiful ship! Thank You for the information.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMeingast Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Very sad news item. I hope all the crew are rescued and accounted for... Who knows how many other ships will be hit by the storm?? One thing I'm wondering - and I don't know all the details, of course - but why try and sail around the storm? Wouldn't you want to head for the nearest port?? Unless they had to skirt the storm to do that?? Anyway, too bad about the sinking... What other movies was it featured in??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 There are finally video news reports on CNN showing the rescue this morning of the 14 survivors. They apparenty had a rough night last night and abandoned the ship this moring around 4 AM. The Coast Guard searched for them for hours and finally found them and rescued them during daylight hours, and CNN just showed video of the helicopter rescue. Obviously it was a big mistake to take the ship out yesterday in the wake of the hurricane. They apparently thought they were far enough South of it, but they weren't. Reports said they were 90 miles off the Coast of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, when they abandoned ship. I don't know who, if anyone, saw the ship sink. I hope it didn't sink, but several news reports says it did. 2 people are still missing. There was also a Fox news video report about this a few minutes ago, so we should see more on Cable News later today. With video of the rescue, this should be a big news story on TV today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMadness Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 That name is cursed, I only hope the new Titanic stays away from hurricanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 A Coast Guard man just said on a news show that the last he saw was just the ship's masts showing above water, with the rest of the ship under water. This is unusual, so maybe the ship has some internal air tanks that might keep it from sinking totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 CNN text report: http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/29/us/sandy-bounty-ship/index.html?hpt=hp_c2 A prophetic 1962 film clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-gNWAILWwc The 1962 film trailer showing the ship: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMeingast Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Yes, too bad... Apparently ship was on her way to St. Petersburg, Florida for an event: http://www.mutinywiththebounty.com/ Site above has maps with locations of her while on her way to St. Pete's before sinking at link above... (Update. Yep, maps still there. Just takes a minute to load.) Her schedule here: http://www.tallshipbounty.org/schedule/ She had just completed a maintenance lay-up in Boothbay Harbour, Maine on October 22... See video of her launching after maintenance from Boothbay on Oct. 22 here and video from 2010 of her sailing in rough seas: http://www.workboat.com/newsdetail.aspx?id=18831 Looks like maybe they didn't sail out far enough east after leaving Boothbay to skirt the hurricane... Anyway, hope all crew are accounted for... Ship was built in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia, Canada in 1960 for Brando flick "Mutiny on the Bounty" (1962)... Ted Turner did own it at one point... Used for the 1990 film "Treasure Island" with Charlton Heston, Christian Bale, Oliver Reed, Christopher Lee, etc.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_Island_%281990_film%29 Also used for the "Pirates of the Caribbean" franchise... More info. on her here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounty_%281960_ship%29 Edited by: RMeingast on Oct 29, 2012 2:52 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 I was searching for the keywords Bounty Map and I found this message board that has been following the ship since Saturday afternoon, before she sank: http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?154783-HMS-Bounty-and-Hurricane-Sandy Map of Bounty heading into hurricane on Saturday: http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/68015_472402262805088_2080967408_n.jpg Photo on board ship (I don't know when this photo was taken): http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292884_472442116134436_437587121_n.jpg Edited by: FredCDobbs on Oct 29, 2012 1:23 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMeingast Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Yes, hopefully they locate the two missing crew. Apparently hope is high as the crew are wearing survival suits... Too bad about the ship but as long as they can get the two remaining missing crew, that's the important thing... Read somewhere that ship was for sale with asking price being $4.6 million... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMeingast Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Official Facebook page with updates here: http://www.facebook.com/HMSBounty?fref=ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 The guys on that message board are apparently expert sail-boaters, and they were following the progress of the ship via some website that had GPS tracking on Saturday. If you read the messages in sequence, you will see the progress of the ship before she sank. I can't get the GPS websites to open. Maybe they are all busy or have been taken down. I'm still reading page 1 of the thread. http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?154783-HMS-Bounty-and-Hurricane-Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkeee Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 They just showed the rescue of the men on CNN and mentioned that 2 are still missing, probably will be showing this again on CNN........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Coast Guard Bounty rescue on YouTube, with sound, close-ups of survivors in water and on life boats: Wooden Boat Forum following Bounty voyage since Saturday, before sinking, board posters using GPS service to track ship: http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?154783-HMS-Bounty-and-Hurricane-Sandy Bounty message board (this might be too busy to open up or load): http://www.tallshipbounty.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=588 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMeingast Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Looks like one of the two missing has been found: http://5newsonline.com/2012/10/29/claudine-christian-missing/ Hopefully she survives... Other remaining missing is captain of ship... Wonder if it was deliberate on his part? Suicide? Yes, read message board Dobbs referred to and many comments that Bounty should have stayed in port and not sailed. Even if ship had been destroyed by hurricane in port, at least crew and USCG lives would not have been put at risk... Imagine an investigation will get to the bottom of things... Very unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamradio Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Considering the nature of the ship itself why wasn't it anchored at a safe port or sailed out to the mid Alantic to avoid Sandy? They had plenty of advanced warning when the storm was pounding Cuba. Shiver me timbers if the actions turns out to be something reckless, the captain should be keelhauled when found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMeingast Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 You'd think this was the TCM Message Board International News Service Forum or something, but, sadly, appears Ms. Christian didn't make it: http://5newsonline.com/2012/10/29/claudine-christian-missing/ Earlier reports had stated she was found and CPR performed and then transported to hospital, so the hope was she might make it, but apparently not... Captain of ship still missing... Interesting thing about the late Claudene Christian was that she was a distant relative of Fletcher Christian (according to her mother)... Investigation will lay blame eventually. Many say ship should have never left port. Even if it was destroyed in port, crew would've been safe, they say. Also that it wasn't seaworthy. Nor meant to handle a severe storm. It was originally meant to be a platform for shooting a movie and not meant for ocean voyages... Time will tell when a report is issued. In meantime, very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamradio Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 MovieMadness wrote: << That name is cursed, I only hope the new Titanic stays away from hurricanes. >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkeee Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 "You'd think this was the TCM Message Board International News Service Forum or something..." -LOL, you really are too funny Mr. RMeingast, maybe you could get a job as a reporter for TCM (after all, you have been on top of this story all day),...but don't quit your day job..... -twinkeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicalnovelty Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 So sorry to hear of the casualties, and of course, the loss of the famous ship. But, as a point of amusement, I just heard a local news report say that the star of the 1962 movie MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY was "Marlon Brandon". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMeingast Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 > {quote:title=twinkeee wrote:}{quote} > > -LOL, you really are too funny Mr. RMeingast, maybe you could get a job as a reporter for TCM (after all, you have been on top of this story all day),...but don't quit your day job..... > > > > > > > > Thanks... I think... Don't forget that Dobbs started it... Anyway, yes, TCM could use me as a roving online reporter... Could interview message board users before and after big fights like hosts do on those wrestling programs on TV, provide analysis of same fights involving message board users and also do interesting trivia items about users... Think a six-figure salary would be fair to start? *Latest news on "HMS Bounty" including video with photos of the floundering ship here*: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/story/2012/10/30/ns-hms-bounty-captain-search.html CBC Nova Scotia is interested in this story because the ship was built there in 1960 (Lunenberg, Nova Scotia, Canada)... Edited by: RMeingast on Oct 30, 2012 9:28 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkeee Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Yes, I know Dobbs started started the thread, however, I noticed he switched over to the "Sex & Nudity!" discussion.....you might say he 'abandoned ship'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMeingast Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 > {quote:title=twinkeee wrote:}{quote} > Yes, I know Dobbs started started the thread, however, I noticed he switched over to the "Sex & Nudity!" discussion.....you might say he 'abandoned ship'.... What else is new? He got out while the getting was good... Anyway, again, very sad about Bounty and loss of two crew... Photos of floundering ship here: http://gcaptain.com/photos-show-sinking-bounty/ Bounty was for sale for $4.6 million US and sales site with information on her here: http://easternyachts.com/bounty/specifications.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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