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LA Times.com : Re-runs of Johnny Carson coming to TCM 2013


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http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-johnny-carson-is-coming-to-turner-classic-movies-20121119,0,1829738.story

 

By Joe Flint

November 20, 2012, 8:00 a.m.

Turner Classic Movies is adding some classic Johnny Carson to its lineup.

 

The cable network has struck a deal for dozens of vintage Carson interviews with movie and TV stars including Jimmy Stewart, Gregory Peck, Drew Barrymore, Steve Martin and Elizabeth Taylor. Many of the interviews haven't been seen on TV since they originally aired on NBC.

 

Turner Classic Movies will use the footage to create 10 one-hour specials called "Carson on TCM" that it will start telecasting in the summer of 2013. TCM will also use Carson interviews as interstitial programming in between its regular movie programming when appropriate. For example, if the channel runs a film featuring Jack Lemmon, it will also show an interview the actor did with Carson.

 

The agreement came about when Peter Jones, who produced the acclaimed PBS documentary "Johnny Carson: King of Late Night," approached TCM to see if it would have interest in getting access to Carson's interviews. Because of Jones' relationship with the Carson Entertainment Group, he was able to secure the rights to the material and then license the footage to TCM.

 

Jones sent a couple of clips to Charlie Tabesh, the senior vice president of programming for TCM including a lively one between Carson and Doris Day that veered into a discussion about, of all things, pornography.

 

"It was immediately intriguing to us," Tabesh said. The interviews, Tabesh added showed how skilled Carson was at bantering with stars compared to the current crop of late night hosts. "They feel a little longer and they go off in different directions you don't expect."

 

Of course, the stars were different then too and weren't so worried about going off script.

 

"It is so stark and obvious when you watch these clips how canned it all is now," Jones said, adding "People will again say `Did you watch Carson last night?'"

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"[Turner Classic Movies|http://www.deadline.com/tag/turner-classic-movies/] has pacted with the estate of [Johnny Carson|http://www.deadline.com/tag/johnny-carson/] to produce [Carson On TCM|http://www.deadline.com/tag/carson-on-tcm/], a showcase of Hollywood interviews from Carson’s three decades as host of The Tonight Show — many of which have not been seen since their original airdates. The deal licenses 50 interviews from the Carson Entertainment Group archives, and the network plans a summer 2013 launch. The list includes more than 20 Oscar winners including Bette Davis, Henry Fonda, William Holden, Gregory Peck, Jimmy Stewart and Elizabeth Taylor."

 

So, no folks, this does not appear to be a reprise of the Jacques Cousteau business a couple of years ago. TCM is just after the interviews with the classic stars.

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What does this mean?

 

Turner Classic Movies will use the footage to create 10 one-hour specials called "Carson on TCM" that it will start telecasting in the summer of 2013.

 

I think it was Carson who did a long interview with Orson Welles back in the 60s or 70s. I would love to see it again.

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Not sure how I feel about this. I think I would prefer to see things like Mae West on the Red Skelton Show, or Sophie Tucker on the Ed Sullivan Show. Or even some of the "What's My Line" bits. Many of the classic movie actors made more interesting and fun appearances on "classic tv" than they did on the Carson show.

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> {quote:title=filmlover wrote:}{quote}There is a thread on this already, started two weeks ago

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> http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?threadID=167238&tstart=120

 

 

Yes, this is old news... There's already another thread on it with more than 1,200 views...

I think this has been mentioned a few times below in this post...

 

Must be a slow day on the message board for old news to get regurgitated...

 

'Tho it's always nice to read what Finance and Hibi have to say on any subject...

 

BTW, prank call to Duchess of Cambridge in hospital by somebody pretending to be the Queen...

Word is that authorities only have the name "Hibi" to go on in finding the culprit:

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/12/05/kate-hoax-call.html

 

Edited by: RMeingast on Dec 5, 2012 11:21 AM

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fred,

 

yes, it would be nice to see interviews from the 60s & 70s. unfortunately, the ones from the 60s are gone.

 

Carson became the Tonight Show host in Oct of 62. when a 10 year annniversary show was in development, it was discovered that most of the original tape recordings during the first 10 years were gone. NBC had re-recorded shows over the originals, and there was nothing left except the occasional storage of a unique spot (say, an interview with Robert F. Kennedy) or a particularly hilarious segment (the Ed Ames tomahawk clip). Carson was livid, and ordered everything henceforth to be saved and stored.

 

the same thing happened with the Jack Paar Tonight Shows. fortunately, the Paar interviews with Hollywood personalities (e.g. Judy Garland and Oscar Lavant) were kinescoped when that NYC based show made a two week visit to Burbank for their (live, no tape) broadcasts. (Paar debuted in 1957 and broadcast live for about a year and a half. thereafter, the shows were taped, aired, saved for awhile for a possible rebroadcast and then erased.) the Paar kinescopes are particularly entertaining and insightful and would make great TCM programming. the Garland show was a true "classic." Judy apparently was half in the bag and her personality was running on all cylinders at full throttle. it's on this show that she (facetiously) lambasts the Munchkins, and takes on Hollywood at Paar's subtle and not so subtle questioning.

 

anyway, i hope the Carson batch of interviews includes the show with Bette Davis (which i think was in the 70s and should be available). Davis could be imperious and charming at the same time. in particular. Carson questions her about the correct pronunciation of her name. is it Betty or "bet" (as in Bette Midler)? her answer is illuminating.

 

Edited by: allthumbs on Dec 5, 2012 12:44 PM

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> Turner Classic Movies will use the footage to create 10 one-hour specials called "Carson on TCM" that it will start telecasting in the summer of 2013.

 

FredC,

 

Unlike the Cavett shows, the *Tonight show* consisted of Johnny's monologue, skits, the main guest, a comedian and/or musical guest. Back in those days, the main guest was allotted more time to talk about their career than today's talk show hosts. The guests also stuck around and interacted with the other guests on the show (often to hilarious results).

 

It sounds like TCM is concentrating on the studio era movie stars that sat down for interviews with Johnny and they will be fashioning ten one-hour specials (probably consisting of a couple of interviews per special) out of the many hours of Tonight Show episodes they have access to.

 

So, I don't think we will be seeing *Tonight Show* episodes in their entirety but rather crafted one hour specials that will include more than one Carson interview per hour.

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Ok, thanks. That sounds good to me. He did some great interviews with stars and a couple of directors back in the old days. I remember Jimmy Stewart and Orson Welles. I remember Welles talked about the making of The Lady From Shanghai, and I would love to hear that interview again.

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I know, I know. I thought that when I heard the Dick Cavett interviews were going to be shown on TCM, but they turned out to be good. For example Alfred Hitchcock told us how he shot the airplane crash sequence in Foreign Correspondent. I always wanted to know about that. There is no other place where he tells that story.

 

During the Carson interviews, the old-time stars talked about their movies and other old-time stars and what life was really like in Hollywood in the old days. Carson let them talk and didn't interrupt them much. Its similar to a Robert Osborne interview with an old-time star.

 

Most of these stars were never filmed on camera talking about their careers, so I enjoy hearing them talk.

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I agree with you Fred. I enjoy these interviews. Interviews with classic film stars are completely relevant and should be shown on TCM. It's wonderful that we will get to see and hear some of our favorites in a non movie setting. btw, I thought that Hitchcock interview with Cavett was fascinating. Thanks TCM, great idea.

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> {quote:title=Swithin wrote:}{quote}

> This thread has a better, more specific title.

 

This thread has also a blatant copyright violation which might lead to it being locked because the board was recently reminded that it is improper to cut-and-paste complete articles.

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If TCM is showing appearances by the likes of Bette Davis, Gregory Peck, William Holden Henry Fonda, Elizabeth Taylor, Judy Garland , Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly and the countless classic stars we love, what is the problem? Please stop calling others posters idiots. It's so unbecoming, ENOUGH ALREADY. You want to limit yourself, no one is stopping you. Shut the tv off if TCM dare show anything that was made after 1960. These stars were still alive after 1960 and to see and hear any stories they shared is interesting to many of us. Calling posters Idiots is uncalled for. Please stop it.

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> {quote:title=willbefree25 wrote:}{quote}

> Who cares.

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> I'm not interested in Carson, I'm not interested in Carson on TCM, I'm not interested in anything that TCM screens that is post 1960.

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> This is simply pandering to the idiots who can't appreciate pre-1960 classically classic films.

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> They're all idiots.

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Abuse report warranted.

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