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Black Widow (1954), beginning of the end of the classic era


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I didn't start watching South Park until a few years into it's run, but they portrayed her as a large mechanical monster called Mecha Streisand, but I never really understood why. I know they go after all celebs but that one was a head scratcher, unless she'd said something about them or the show.

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That is true, but up to the point where they reveal who the killer is in *Black Widow* she acts very normal. They could have made the killer to be any of the cast surrounding the crime scene, even Gene Tierney could have been made the killer.

 

I guess though technically Ginger Rogers is a murderer and could be a nut but a lot of people do kill a cheating spouse or the participant. Usually they get a reduced sentence out of sympathy I think. :)

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>I was just thrown off by the fact that Ginger strangled the young lady to death. If that's normal, so be it.

 

She did it in the public hallway, and then she dragged the body to the bathroom, found some rope or electrical cord, raised the girl up several feet, and strung her up to the shower head. And then she sat down and wrote a fake suicide note. All without wrinkling her fancy dress. All while remaining calm.

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> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote}

> > I was just thrown off by the fact that Ginger strangled the young lady to death.

> She did it in the public hallway, and then she dragged the body to the bathroom, found some rope or electrical cord, raised the girl up several feet, and strung her up to the shower head. And then she sat down and wrote a fake suicide note. All without wrinkling her fancy dress. All while remaining calm.

Well, as Finance said in another thread, Ginger could do anything at least better than average. (She probably did it backwards and in heels too.)

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I still dislike this thread. I think the original subject should have had a question mark at the end. It seems like a doomsday approach to classic film, without letting others decide if it is truly the end, or just a beginning with newer technology.

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One thing I will add here is that I watched MOONFLEET last night, and during the broadcast I researched the film online. Fritz Lang, known for his noir output, was the director. Stewart Granger calls the finished product dreary, while others more kindly call it moody.

 

Lang was hired by MGM to film it in Cinemascope and color. At the time, Lang was open to the possibilities of these technologies to tell a somber story. But a few years later, he reversed his opinion. He told a film scholar that Cinemascope was overused by the studios and that comparing film to classic painting, only one real masterpiece from the Renaissance period could be said to frame subjects the way Cinemascope does: The Last Supper. Lang claimed that everything else is more effective when it shows subjects up close and intimately.

 

BLACK WIDOW definitely does not do that. It shows the subjects isolated and defined by an ambitious spatial design. I happen to like it. I also happen to like the use of cold colors, something that Lang eschews in favor of earth-tones. I guess it's a matter of personal taste.

 

But none of this ever signaled the end of classic movie-making, or else we would looking at TCM as a museum and Hollywood would no longer be cranking out motion pictures.

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