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What absolutely amazed me about the theyshootpictures.com site was how many of the top 200 movies have been shown on TCM over the past 4 years. I went through the list and counted 101 that I've recorded, plus 22 more that I chose not to for varying reasons.

 

What's even more impressive is that these numbers come in spite the the fact that so many of the top 200 are foreign. When you allow for that, it's almost a run of the table when it comes to American films: The only Hollywood movies out of the top 200 I can't remember seeing on TCM since September of 2009 were The Godfather, Godfather 2, Taxi Driver, Apocalypse Now, Blue Velvet, Nashville, It's a Wonderful Life, The Shining, Rosemary's Baby, Alien, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. That's all of 11, most of which are either tied up with other networks or would be prohibitively expensive to acquire.

 

The next time some feels like complaining about the selections we get on TCM, they should ask themselves this question: How many repertory theaters in New York, California, Toronto, London or Paris are likely to have shown this high a percentage of these movies over the past 4 years as TCM? I doubt if there's a single one among them.

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my list is: Camille

Titanic - 1997

Pearl Harbor 2001

Grand Hotel

Anna Karenina - 1935

The Godfather Parts 1 and 2

i could go on and on

but you can see there are some great newer films too

added: Casablanca

Gone with the Wind

Flesh and Devil - silent

Dr. Zhivago

 

let me leave this now - i really could go on and on!

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I like these lists when I want to find a classic film I haven't seen yet. Nothing wrong with that.

 

Fascinating that Casablanca is the same movie this year that it was last year yet, it drops 22 spaces.

 

Rosemary's Baby showed a few months ago, I think it was in the summer. btw

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Great Debuts

 

#1 Citizen Kane

#15 Breathless

#26 The 400 Blows

#51 Pather Panchali

#93 The Mother and the ****

#117 Un Chien Andalou

#121 The Spirit of the Beehive

#154 Performance

#199 Meshes of the Afternoon

#233 Night of the Living Dead

#250 Nanook of the North

#295 Killer of Sheep

 

Valedictions

 

#70 Gertrud

#143 Come and See

#160 L'Argent

#168 Yi Yi

#171 Once upon a Time in America

#176 Salo or the 120 days of Sodom

#229 Tabu

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Add *Life Upside Down* (Alain Jessua) and *Whistle Down the Wind* (Bryan Forbes), which are much better than some of the other debut feature-length films listed. Unfortunately, they are hard to come by, so not many people have seen them.

 

If *The Mask of Dimitrios* is regarded as Jean Negulesco's debut feature--he was fired from *Singapore Woman*, but some of the work certainly looks like his--then it, too, should be included.

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I think his list is probably a joke. :)

 

>#51 Pather Panchali

>#93 The Mother and the ****

>#117 Un Chien Andalou

>#121 The Spirit of the Beehive

>#154 Performance

>#199 Meshes of the Afternoon

>#233 Night of the Living Dead

>#250 Nanook of the North

>#295 Killer of Sheep

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AndyM, you'd drop KANE ?!! Several hundred places ??

 

Yes, I would. I just re-watched The Third Man again last night, and I had the same reaction to both of those movies: Cinematically brilliant, and Welles has a screen presence that's unmatched by almost any actor this side of Toshiro Mifune, Jean Gabin or Jimmy Cagney. I can see why it's been dazzling critics for the past 73 years.

 

But. . . but. . . once you get past all the technowizardry, IMO there really isn't much "there" there. The political points are trite, the characters are interesting but not nearly as interesting as those in many hundred other movies I've seen, and all in all it just seems a bit too self-congratulatory.

 

Don't get me wrong, I still *like* both of those films quite a bit (I rate them both an 8 on my personal 10 scale). But give me a list of the TCM and Netflix movies I've seen over the past 5 years and in 20 minutes I could name 200 titles that I'd rank over both of them. It all depends on your criteria for judgment, but to me Citizen Kane seems like a bit of tasty fluff compared to films like Kapo or Greed or Bicycle Thieves.

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I agree. While there are movies I enjoy more than "Citizen Kane," (but that's not saying I don't enjoy 'Kane,' which I do) I wouldn't bury it deep in this list or any "Greatest Movies of All Time" list (which is so subjective). What I love about 'Kane' is how the film was shot. I love Welles' use of camera angles and shadows as a means to subtly convey specific character traits, or moods, etc. While the plot is not the most original (definitely not a bad plot however and really what plotline is 100% original?) it is engaging and interesting enough to me to keep me watching.

 

When I saw "Citizen Kane" for the first time, I had just visited the Hearst Castle in San Simeon, CA, so it added a little to the film for me. Even though Welles claims that it wasn't based on Hearst. Say what you want about 'Kane' and/or Welles but there's no denying that this film and Welles aren't important figures in film. 'Kane' is so engrained in American culture, there are countless parodies and homages to it in other shows and movies. "The Simpsons" comes to mind. There's an episode that follows one of the events in "Citizen Kane" where Kane leaves his parents' home for a better life and leads his sled behind. In "The Simpsons," Mr. Burns does the same thing, except he left his teddy bear "Bobo" behind. In the beginning of the episode, Mr. Burns lays dying with a snow globe in his hand.

 

In regard to "The Third Man," I watched this a couple years ago, and while it was interesting, I found it hard to follow. Maybe I need to watch it again. I recorded it when it was on TCM because of its reputation as one of the best film noirs ever made and because I like Orson Welles. Regardless of how I felt about watching it, Welles has hands down, one of the best film entrances ever.

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I agree. While there are movies I enjoy more than "Citizen Kane," (but that's not saying I don't enjoy 'Kane,' which I do) I wouldn't bury it deep in this list or any "Greatest Movies of All Time" list (which is so subjective). What I love about 'Kane' is how the film was shot. I love Welles' use of camera angles and shadows as a means to subtly convey specific character traits, or moods, etc. While the plot is not the most original (definitely not a bad plot however and really what plotline is 100% original?) it is engaging and interesting enough to me to keep me watching.

 

*IF* I were rating films purely on the basis of pioneering cinematic greatness along the lines you're mentioning, then I'd rate Citizen Kane much higher, up there with such previous entries as The Birth of a Nation, Metropolis, Sunrise, Fritz Lang's two Mabuse films, and many blockbuster movies of fairly recent vintage that I've yet to see.

 

But when I rate movies, I can't see using merely coldblooded technical measures, like lighting, camera work, soundtracks, etc. I also want to see great acting and a story that grabs me underneath the dazzle. Sunrise delivers that, and certainly so does Mabuse, but the storyline Citizen Kane (to me, anyway) comes off as little more than a borderline bio of William Randolph Hearst with a bit of psychobabble added and most of the historically interesting parts left out. Welles denied that Hearst was the inspiration, but anyone who believes that must not know much about Hearst.

 

And once you get past the camerawork and all that, and begin to consider the rest of the picture, Hitchcock's Vertigo is but one of many movies that leaves Citizen Kane in the dust. The Testament of Dr. Mabuse would be another. I wouldn't put Vertigo at #1, but I can certainly see a much better case being made for it.

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How does theyshootpictures.com rank the best picture winners? Let's take a look

 

33. American Beauty #944

32. Out of Africa #882

31. No Country for Old Men #815

30. An American in Paris #670

29. Titanic #661

28. All Quiet on the Western Front #599

27. Rocky #590

26. Forrest Gump #548

25. The Silence of the Lambs #537

24. The French Connection #534

23. Rebecca #505

22. Ben-Hur #495

21. Amadeus #441

20. The Sound of Music #384

19. West Side Story #349

18. Midnight Cowboy #346

17. The Bridge on the River Kwai #330

16. Schindler's List #309

15. Unforgiven #291

14. How Green was My Valley #290

13. It Happened One Night #280

12. The Deer Hunter #188

11. The Best Years of Our Lives #187

10. On the Waterfront #157

9. One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest #135

8. All About Eve #109

7. Gone with the Wind #102

6. Annie Hall #92

5. The Apartment #61

4. Casablanca #37

3. Lawrence of Arabia #22

2. The Godfather, Part II #20

1. The Godfather #7

 

The following movies have appeared on the top 1000 in the past, but not anymore (#34-49)

 

Dances with Wolves

From Here to Eternity

Gandhi

Hamlet

In the Heat of the Night

The Last Emperor

The Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King

A Man for All Seasons

Million Dollar Baby

Mutiny on the Bounty

My Fair Lady

Ordinary People

Platoon

The Sting

Tom Jones

You Can't Take it With you

 

The site has a top 250 movies of the 21st century which ranks the best pictures of this century as follows:

 

The Hurt Locker #22

No Country for Old Men #31

Million Dollar Baby #42

The Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King #61

The Departed #76

The Artist #132

Gladiator #159

Argo #164

The King's Speech #170

Crash #249

 

Chicago, Slumdog Millionaire but NOT A Beautiful Mind have appeared on this list in the past.

 

Wings and Crash are also on the top 1000, but they're not the best picture winners.

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This website still exists, and it still produces annual updates.  One interesting feature is that as you look at each entry you can see the highest position it ever reached.   So it would be interesting to look at those movies that have clearly dropped over the fifteen years or so that the website has existed.  Let's look at movies currently in the top 250 that have noticeably lost ground. 

The Gold Rush #27 > #76

The Magnificent Ambersons #36 > #77

Jules et Jim #33 > #83

The Wizard of Oz #57 > #105

Intolerance #44 > #106

Sherlock Jr. #66 > #113

The Earrrings of Madame De…  #65 > #122

All About Eve #68 > #124

Bringing up Baby #79 > #125

Letter from an Unknown Woman #74 > #126

My Darling Clementine #80 > #128

Notorious #75 > #135

Stagecoach #81 > #136

L’Age D’Or  #72 > #140

His Girl Friday #90 > #142

Duck Soup #98 > #145

Double Indemnity #89 > #148

On the Waterfront #80 > #153

Historie(s) du Cinema #106 > #156

Chimes at Midnight #102 > #160

King Kong #96 > #163

Earth #110 > #169

Napoleon #101 > #176

The Grapes of Wrath #119 > #178

Dekalog #92 > #181

Out of the Past #117 > #185

The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp #123 > #186

Umberto D #114 > #189

Close Encounters of the Third Kind #128 > #193

Belle de Jour #126 > #196

Celine and Julie Go Boating #124 > #199

Red River #127 > #200

Paisan #118 > #202

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari #129 > #204

The Best Years of our Lives #109 > #209

McCabe & Mrs. Miller #120 > #212

Ran #116 > #213

Ashes and Diamonds #118 > #215

Kind Hearts and Coronets #137 > #224

Ivan the Terrible, Part II #128 > #228

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre #96 > #235

Sullivan’s Travels #128 > #237

Two or Three Things I Know About Her #135 > #239

Meet me in St. Louis #170 > #242

The Crowd #150 > #243

La Notte #152 > #244

Bonnie and Clyde #136 > #245

The Band Wagon #150 > #247

The Color of Pomegranates #177 > #249

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And here are the movies in the #251-500 that have passed their peak:

 

Freaks #163 > #251

The Story of the Last Chrysanthemums #168 > #260

Ivan the Terrible, Part 1 #128 > #261

Mean Streets #114 > #263

Broken Blossoms #100 > #267

Beauty and the Beast (Cocteau version) #175 > #270

The Maltese Falcon #152 > #271

Throne of Blood #187 > #273

The Wages of Fear #176 > #276

Monsieur Verdoux #160 > #278

Pandora’s Box #189 > #287

Crimes and Misdemeanors #188 > #288

The Birth of a Nation #111 > #289

Weekend #184 > #299

Touki Bouki #201 > #300

The Music Room #171 > #305

The World of Apu #162 > #312

Bride of Frankenstein #196 > #313

It Happened One Night #194 > #322

The Philadelphia Story #142 > #329

Berlin Alexanderplatz #192 > #331

To Kill a Mockinbird #335 > #437

Orpheus #176 > #339

Marnie #244 > #357

Written on the Wind #199 > #358

High Noon #255 > #361

Lola Montes #256 > #362

Werckmeister Harmonies #260 > #367

Last Tango in Paris #203 > #371

The Young Girls of Rochefort #257 > #372

The Palm Beach Story #164 > #376

The Crime of Monsieur Lange #190 > #385

The Bridge over the River Kwai #176 > #386

October #276 > #387

Network #267 > #389

Don’t Look Back #301 > #392

The King of Comedy #294 > #393

Army of Shadows #289 > #394

Voyage to the Moon #273 > #395

Tristana #281 > #399

All that Heaven Allows #245 > #401

Yojimbo #273 > #404

The Double Life of Veronique #289 > #405

1900 #250 > #407

Shoot the Piano Player #219 > #412

The Awful Truth #236 > #414

In a Year with 13 Moons #312 > #415

The Scarlet Empress #291 > #417

Charulata #264 > #418

Man of Aran #311 > #422

Opening Night #315 > #423

Day for Night #263 > #424

The Cloud-Capped Star #332 > #425

A Star is Born #195 > #427

Repulsion #307 > #429

Halloween #285 > #430

Five Easy Pieces #286 > #432

Dead Ringers #333 > #433

Scenes from a Marriage #323 > #434

The Hustler #311 > #436

Shadows #271 > #437

The Terminator #259 > #438

Easy Rider #280 > #445

Accatone #341 > #446

The Cameraman #305 > #447

Senso #249 > #449

Out 1, Noli me Tangere #279 > #451

The Hour of the Furnaces #338 > #454

Le Plaisir #298 > #455

All the President’s Men #325 > #457

Closely Watched Trains #340 > #461

The Cranes are Flying #377 > #462

Fantasia #244 > #463

Frankenstein #313 > #464

Shane #241 > #466

Pyassa #321 > #468

Chelsea Girls #302 > #470

The Road Warrior #347 > #471

The Tree of Wooden Clogs #231 > #474

Point Blank #339 > #476

Grey Gardens #379 > #479

The Wind #287 > #481

Laura #288 > #482

The Triumph of the Will #253 > #483

Tootsie #338 > #484

The Hour of the Wolf #299 > #485

Chronicle of a Summer #356 > #487

To Have and Have Not #258 > #488

The Sound of Music #353 > #489

Alexander Nevsky #174 > #492

Shadow of a Doubt #263 > #495

Koyaanisqatsi #351 > #497

Strangers on a Train #232 > #498

The Wind Will Carry Us #395 > #499

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Now for the movies that once peaked within the top 500, but are now somewhere in #501-750:

Alphaville #391 > #502

Muriel #353 > #503

A Night at the Opera #196 > #509

Masculin Feminin #222 > #511

Steamboat Bill, Jr., #246 > #512

La Terra Trema #409 > #513

Gimme Shelter #410 > #514

Early Summer #393 > #515

The Devil Probably #396 > #516

Top Hat #307 > #518

The Big Heat #362 > #521

Limelight #259 > #523

Lola (Demy version) #329 > #525

Les Vampires #224 > #527

La Region Cenrale #388 > #528

I Viteloni #346 > #534

Marketa Lazarova #292 > #535

The Enigma of Kasper Hauser #357 > #537

Faust #387 > #538

Dr. Zhivago #316 > #539

The Servant #349 > #540

Fellini Satyricon #312 > #543

Miracle in Milan #261 > #544

Deliverance #279 > #546

Ninotchka #229 > #548

Wagon Master #448 > #549

The Rise to Power of Louis XIV #300 > #550

Alice in the Cities #384 > #551

Bigger than Life #338 > #554

Evil Dead II #386 > #555

Being There #447 > #556

Rebel Without a Cause #293 > #559

A Hard Day’s Night #314 > #560

Raising Arizona #460 > #565

The Killing #392 > #566

Trainspotting #447 > #567

Scarface, the Shame of the Nation #453 > #568

Local Hero #332 > #569

Boudu Saved From Drowning #438 > #570

Tale of Tales #402 > #571

Detour #390 > #572

That Obscure Object of Desire #322 > #574

The Manchurian Candidate #294 > #575

Providence #305 > #578

And Life Goes On #480 > #580

Aparajito #277 > #581

Down by Law #433 > #582

The Asphalt Jungle #277 > #583

Rocky #419 > #584

Scorpio Rising #366 > #585

Full Metal Jacket #377 > #588

I Walked with a Zombie #344 > #594

The Devils #418 > #595

Band of Outsiders #406 > #596

The 39 Steps #306 > #597

The Wedding March #322 > #600

The Silence #374 > #601

Love me Tonight #405> #603

The Invasion of the Body Snatchers #364 > #606

The Age of Innocence #423> #607

The Lady Vanishes #381 > #608

Salesman #432 > #609

The Red Circle #441 > #610

Rosetta #472 > #617

Bring me the Head of Alfredo Garcia #346 > #621

Seven Chances #425 > #622

Un Chant D’Amour #485 > #624

Loves of a Blonde #312 > #625

The Testament of Dr. Mabuse #496 > #626

Les Diabloiques #444 > #627

White Heat #257> #630

Dr. Mabuse, the Gambler #452 > #632

Our Hospitality #359 > #634

Blissfully Yours #406 > #636

The Marriage of Maria Braun #438 > #637

Ben Hur (Wyler version) #321 > #639

An Angel at my Table #490 > #640

A Streetcar Named Desire #356 > #641

Antonio das Mortes #401 > #645

Great Expectations #266 > #646

Fat City #426 > #647

The Round-up #475 > #653

The Great Escape #495 > #654

Monty Python and the Holy Grail #358 > #656

A Place in the Sun #389 > #658

JFK #396 > #659

Xala #441 > #660

Yeelen #486 > #662

Titticut Follies #439 > #663

Young Mr. Lincoln #451 > #664

The Blue Angel #255 > #665

Passion #360 > #667

Gun Crazy #443 > #668

They live by Night #461 > #669

Nouvelle Vague #436 > #670

Rebecca #312 > #673

Edward Scissorhands #468 > #678

Walkabout #389 > #681

My Life as a Dog #387 > #685

The African Queen #296 > #687

Mr. Smith Goes to Washington #330 > #688

The Golden Coach #421 > #692

Dumbo #448 > #695

Strike #236 > #696

Foolish Wives #370 > #697

L.A. Confidential #431 > #698

The Circus #371 > #700

Casque D’or #314 > #701

Spartacus #326 > #702

Edvard Munch #490 > #708

Breakfast at Tiffany’s #401 > #711

The Man who Would be King #429 > #713

By the Bluest of Seas #493 > #716

The Emperor’s Naked Army Marches On #339 > #721

A Short Film About Killing #485 > #723

Claire’s Knee #385 > #724

Lancelot du Lac #318 > #725

The Wild Child #467 > #727

Van Gogh #457 > #728

The Tiger of Eschanpur #455 > #731

All Quiet on the Western Front #274 > #732

The Thief of Bagdad #306n > #735

Les Dames du Bois de Boulogne #382 > #738

Blow Out #452 > #741

Saturday Night and Sunday Morning #409 > #742

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And now for movies that once made the top 500, but are stuck in the bottom quarter of the top 1000: 

Lolita #460 > #756

Ferris Beuller’s Day Off #430 > #757

The Red Balloon #432 > #758

Thelma and Louise #399 > #759

The Firemen’s Ball #448 > #761

The Last Detail #462 > #762

The Adventures of Robin Hood  #355 > #763

Every Man for Himself #497 > #769

Cool Hand Luke #460 > #771

The Navigator #218 > #773

Olympia #443 > #786

Ossessione #497 > #787

Les Maitres Fous #476 > #795

Faster, Pussycat!  Kill! Kill!  #435 > #812

The Right Stuff #431 > #819

Forbidden Games #334 > #823

The Producers #477 > #828

It’a Gift #343 > #832

Sawdust and Tinsel #380 > #847

She Wore a Yellow Ribbon #389 > #848

Fires were Started #430 > #853

Le Million #275 > #855

American Graffiti #401 > #865

Forbidden Planet #493 > #884

They were Expendable #299 > #891

Fellini’s Casanova #350 > #894

Mon Oncle D’Amerique #499 > #899

42nd Street #432 > #900

Ride the High Country #413 > #911

Juliet of the Spirits #491 > #912

Hotel Terminus #395 > #916

Mildred Pierce #495 > #917

The Hart of London #367 > #918

Get Carter #419 > #920

Reds #379 > #924

Ludwig #392 > #925

Odd Man Out #321 > #931

On the Town #459 > #949

The Thing from Another world #462 > #962

Pepe le Moko #442 > #963

The Reckless Moment #471 > #968

The 47 Ronin #438 > #976

Henry V (Olivier version) #364 > #978

The Man who Fell to Earth #377 > #994

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And now for movies that were in the top 500 but who have fallen out of the top 1000 altogether: 

Bob la Flambeur #429 > #1083

The Tarnished Angels #498 > #1088

Que Viva Mexico #473 > #1100

A Nous la Liberte #474 > #1112

Midnight Run #489 > #1133

The Blood of a Poet #494 > #1156

Beyond the Valley of the Dolls #475 > #1181

The Magnificent Seven #425 > #1196

Leolo #489 > #1216

Princess Yang Kwei Fei #422 > #1243

Out 1: Spectre #435 > #1281

The Barefoot Contessa #467 > #1286

The Devil is a Woman #416 > #1318

Quadrophenia #469 > #1321

I am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang #472 > #1332

Lacombe, Lucien #443 > #1340

The Man from Laramie #484 > #1397

There’s Always Tomorrow #340 > #1513

Baby Doll #409 > #1556

The Tingler #474 > #1840

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Another thing about the TSPDT remembering the highest rank of a movie is that you can list those movies that are currently at their highest position.  Not surprisingly, many of these are relatively new movies.  But not all of them.  Check out those currently in the second quarter of the TSPDT top thousand:

The Thing [Carpenter] #254

The Matrix #285

This is Spinal Tap #286

Daisies #291

City of God #303

Stranger than Paradise #311

Quince Tree of the Sun #327

The House is Black #332

Wanda #333

The Tenant #338

Tie Xi Qu:  West of the Tracks #342

The Innocents #344

The Silence of the Lambs #350

Uncle Boonme who can Recall his past Lives #351

Teorema #352

Yellow Earth #353

Suspira #354

Brokeback Mountain #359

Platform #364

The Elephant Man #365

Land Without Bread #366

A Separation #375

Lost in Translation #377

The Turin Horse #378

Wall-E #381

Talk to Her #382

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon #384

The White Ribbon #398

The Death of Mr. Lazarescu #420

Flowers of Shanghai #439

Elephant #443

Naked #450

Melancholia #465

Vagabond #478

A.I. (Artificial Intelligence)  #480

Inland Empire #486

Orlando #500

 

 

 

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