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To My Surprise, I Liked The Oscars...

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How about 5 very negative post, implying the person who posted the original positive comment is clueless. Par for the course.

 

I'll admit I'm a complete sucker for Charlize Theron. But, then again, I'm no goddess. :)

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> {quote:title=Filmgoddess wrote:}{quote}Yes, Jennifer Lawrence was so cute, intelligent, and classy that she didn't know how to walk in a ball gown so she fell going up to get her award. Then she rattled off a bunch of names no one has ever heard of and backstage, let rip one four letter word after another all the while telling us how many "shots" she downed before the show.

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> Yep, that's cute and intelligent.

..so cute and intelligent; and respectful.

 

I wouldn't post this here, so you can have a look for yourselves.

 

http://www.justjared.com/photo-gallery/2820291/jennifer-lawrence-middle-finger-flash-in-oscars-press-room-01/

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That's 5 posts in a row by you, arguing with 5 different posters at the same time. A little obsessed with this topic? why not start a movenment banning all Award shows, since you've found fault with all the broadcasted Award shows in your posts today.We get it, you hate the Oscar shows, you hate the Kennedy Honors, the Lincoln Center awards, the AFI tributes, etc. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, not everyone here agrees with you. Accept that and let it go. oh and btw, I certainly did watch the Oscar 's last night so stop saying that I didn't.

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...with that kind of behaviour, lack of class and disrespect, does she really deserve an Oscar ?

 

Imagine if Grace Kelly had behaved that way when she won her Oscar ???

 

Twink

 

 

 

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> {quote:title=twinkeee wrote:}{quote}...with that kind of behavior, lack of class and disrespect, does she really deserve an Oscar ?

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> Imagine if Grace Kelly had behaved that way when she won her Oscar ???

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> Twink

I'd heard this about her before. She's obviously a very talented performer to have two nominations with a win so early in her career. She's also 22 or 23 years old and a child of her times where every other word begins with f and it's easier to give the "salute" then say why you're upset. It started being the norm with my generation and the succeeding ones kept taking it a step further. At least she kept it off the stage.

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Obviously the Oscar show was a real highlight for Adele, not only performing but winning the gold statue for her song from Skyfall. Far more of a highlight on the show for me, though, was seeing Shirley Bassey, dressed in gold, doing her recreation of the Goldfinger song. And she really hung on to that last note, too!

 

I have nothing against Adele, but did anyone else notice how incredibly limp her Oscar-winning song is compared to the incredibly sexy and iconic sounds of the one from Goldfinger? Am I just basking (or should I make that shirley basseying) in the past, or doesn't the Goldfinger song simply blast the music from Skyfall right out of the auditorium?

 

The Bond films have had some lovely music over the years. From Russia with Love, You Only Live Twice, Carly Simon's "Nobody Does It Better" from the Spy Who Loved Me. But that sexy number from Goldfinger remains, for me, the song of those Bond extravaganzas.

 

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Shirley Bassey - the lady's still got it

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Unlike others who've said the F word ONSTAGE.........

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For the first time in a long time, I missed most of the Academy Awards show. Did catch the first part.. Seth MacFarland now knows the limits of his genius. He made William Shatner look better. Poor Seth, who should really stick with Stewie and Brian Griffin.

 

I watched until Best Sound Editing, and when he said, "it's a tie!" I knew it would be for Zero Dark Thirty..Yeah! then I fell asleep.

 

I will watch it tonight. I think I can get it on Hulu.

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Songs for movies today have nothing on songs written in the Goldfinger era, not to mention when there were REAL SONGWRITERS writing for films like Gershwin, Berlin, Porter etc. I dont understand why people cant write good songs anymore. Have they all been written???

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Of course it wasn't one of the "traditional" Bonds, but the theme from the original Casino Royale was great -- the Herb Alpert performance of the Bacharach instrumental.

 

 

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I can understand why, when you've got Shirley Bassey to appear, they decided to do only "Goldfinger" -- and let her do the whole darned thing.

 

But I just want to say on this thread that I also happen to love her on "Diamonds are Forever."

 

I also love Herb Alpert's "Casino Royale," Carly Simon's "Nobody Does It Better," Nancy Sinatra's "You Only Live Twice," and several others I'd love to see in a Bond Medley someday.

 

 

 

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As for Jennifer Lawrence on E! in the pressroom right after the awards, I thought she was hilarious, especially given the inane questions being asked. Maybe the journalists were kidding right along with her, but from what I've seen of the pressroom in the past the journalists ask inane questions in all sincerity.

 

 

 

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And say what you will about Seth, the segment I didn't get was the five guys from The Avengers, who seemed way underrehearsed. That's the point I thought the whole show came to a dead stop, and then had a bit of a hard time regaining momentum.

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I hope you're not really saying that getting an Oscar should be based on a performers OFF the screen behavior.

 

An actor deserves an Oscar based on their ON-screen performance and should be judged on that alone.

 

 

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Here's my take on last night's Oscars show;

 

First, I think the whole Academy Awards presentation as a piece of entertainment has had its day. It seems like something from another time, that doesn't know it's a relic from the past and keeps sticking around, hoping/thinking it's still a big event.

It really felt like that to me last night. Yes, Seth MacFarlane was out-of-step with the audience, and I'm not crazy about his particular brand of humour, but to be fair, all of the recent Academy Awards hosts (and hostesses) over the past 10 years or so have bombed in the role, to a greater or lesser degree. They're all cordially hated by everyone, the live audience (who try and hide it), the television audience (who don't) and the media (who love critiquing the host's performance even more than the other aspects of the show.)

It seems almost impossible for a host, no matter who he or she may be (not that MacFarlane would have been my first or even 50th choice), to successfully MC the Oscars these days. I believe this is at least in part because it's almost impossible to host a show that in many ways seems irrelevant and unexciting now. It's a victim of 21st century culture.

 

What I almost always feel when watching the Oscars is a palpable unease, the host(s) making jokes that almost always seem to fall flat, the camera panning the audience, which usually looks bored or uncomfortable, and a bizarre kind of embarrassment. The host can't win. On the one hand, they're almost expected to "roast" the celebs at least a little; on the other, they can't seem to strike a happy balance between humourous "roasting" and downright insult. So eveyone ends up feeling vaguely anxious and uncomfortable. And you know things aren't going well when even the host makes jokes about how his performance is going down like a lead balloon.

 

The above doesn't just apply to Seth MacFarlane; I've noticed it with just about all the Oscar hosts from about the last 10 or 15 years.

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The show moved fast but still was too long- at times I thought I was watching the Tony's or the Grammys not the Oscars- for an even that is suppose to be a celebration of film there were not enough movie clips.

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james just want to clarify that your post that came up on my moniker was not directed to me, since we are in agreement, but that you were posting in response to Filhgoddess' post. (about 15 posts down the page)

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Nice "seeing" you, missw.

 

 

(I didn't even watch the Oscars last night. Plenty of other things to do. Besides, I knew I'd get a media re-hashing for the next coupla weeks.)

 

 

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Greetings, dpompper. :)

 

My last post about the Oscar ceremony was getting kind of long, and it seemed a good idea to just stick with that one point I was making about it.

 

But I have a few other ideas about the Academy Awards event.

 

 

They should never have increased the "Best Picture"nominations from 5 to 10. While I am of the opinion (hey, just noticed ..."while I am of the opinion" is rather pompous-sounding, isn't it? oh well...) that the Oscars are not an accurate reflection of the quality of any given year's crop of movies anyway, and I actually pay little attention to them in that respect, I do think if you're going to do this, and have a show about it and all, you should stick to five movies for "Best Picture". Ten just clutters it all up. Plus, it's a lot more time-consuming to show clips from ten films than from five. Which may account for why they don't really show much in the way of clips from the nominated films anymore. People are already complaining about how long the damn show is...why make it even longer by adding five more contenders to the mix?

 

 

Another recent change which was a bad decision: the whole foreign language film thing. Look, either have a foreign language film category, or don't, but don't add just one foreign language movie (in this case, Amour ) to the "best picture" nominations.

Aside from anything else, it suggests that only one film made in a language other than English is good enough to be nominated in the best picture category, which is just ridiculous, and insults all the non-English language movies made that year, many of which are probably as good as or better than the English ones in the running. It's a wishy-washy compromise. Since Amour was already on the list of nominated foreign language films, they should have just left it at that.

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Swithin, absolutely agree. I have the Casino Royale CD, I love it and listen to it often. Not crazy about the bagpipe cut, but other than that, the theme song is a favorite. Not part of the real Bond series but glad you mentioned it.

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I am watching the Oscar's right now. Interesting turn to this discussion.

 

Whether you love, or hate, above it all, or indifferent to (in which case you wouldn't be posting here for it wouldn't matter to you) the Academy or it's annual awards show, both the Academy and the Award have earned a place in the Hollywood business world. Remember, entertainment is the business.

 

The Oscar's do garner the billion in the audience world wide, and for that reason, I think it has more to do with marketing than excellence in moviemaking, though wonderfully, every once in while, the Academy transcends itself.

 

Ten films for Best Picture consideration? It does seem not well though out, but again it's marketing. The ones nominated get a bump in sales or DVD sales. Some of those nominated we may not have even heard of, except for the nomination.

 

The VFX protest incident shows the Academy still has growing pains too. Those VFX kids need their due. Hollywood tries for tradition, but it is an industry that is change itself. The Kodak theater is now the DOLBY theater. Hollywood is always evolving, so I don't begrudge them these PROMS for themselves.

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*Where do those dresses go after the show? Do they ever wear them again??*

Well, if it was worn by Lindsay Lohan, it will get torn, re-hemmed, and ruined.

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Some random points:

 

Seth MacFarlane was awkward and on occasion cringe-worthy, but perhaps for that very reason, I felt kind of sorry for him. And after all, anyone who's seen Family Guy even once knows his style, so why did the Oscar show planners even ask him? (to host.)

 

I agree with all who said the "In Memoriam" segment of the show was terrible. It felt like they were rushing through it, and as several people here have observed, it left out quite a few respected people who should have been mentioned, and yet included many whom few had even heard of (I especially dont' see any reason to mention those on the "business" end of things-obviously I think producers and studio heads should be part of an "In Memoriam" feature, but I draw the line at advertising execs etc.)

And it felt disrespectful, the way they ended it, sequeying into Barbra Streisand appearing and launching into "The Way We Were". I do understand why they did it, and what they were getting at, and the song choice was appropriate, but still, it seemed as though the "In Memoriam" part of the show was kind of hurried through, just given a nod because it's expected.

 

 

Something hardly anyone's commented on: It was terrible, embarrassing and tasteless and mean, the way that guy who won some techical award was ignominiously cut short by the "Jaws" music. If they wanted to remind people to keep it short, they could have played a few notes from the theme as a warning, then stopped and waited at least half a minute, before doing it again. The poor guy, his big moment, and he's humiliated and rushed off the stage. I also can't help thinking if it were a big name actor doing the same thing, they would have cut him or her some slack with the time thing.

 

 

As for the "All That Jazz" number which has been criticized here: it's a great number ! I think *Chicago* is pretty darn good, and that song in particular is fabulous. And good on Catherine Zeta-Jones for still pulling it off, sexy dancing and all. I found it far more entertaining than Jennifer Hudson over-emoting on that tuneless thing from *Dream Girls* , and even Babs' performance. So this year's show's producers had a connection with the film *Chicago*. I don't care, "All That Jazz" is still a terrific number; and after all, they also had quite a lot of other musical performances from other films -shirley the producers weren't connected with them too?

 

 

Can't remember who said Adele was underwhelming, but I don't agree with them. I like Adele, she's a very talented singer with an amazing voice who does not dish up a serving of vocal acrobatics every time she opens her mouth, unlike Hudson and many other current female singers. And the song "Skyfall" is actually pretty good; it might take a couple of listens, but it is in fact an interesting melody, and Adele does it justice.

 

 

Ok, I know, I'm rambling on here. One more comment, and sorry, this one is going against the grain of the majority opinion...I'm tired of everyone going on about how fantastic Daniel Day Lewis is. Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike him. But I don't think he's a thousand times better than all the other actors around today, which seems to be the prevailing view right now. All the other actors nominated were just as good. I don't blame Daniel Day Lewis - and in fact, his acceptance speech was both gracious and funny.

But I can't join the "Daniel Day Lewis is the best actor living today" club.

 

 

Ok. Roger. Over and out.

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I thought the show this year was more energetic and less boring than some of the recent ones. Seth was okay; I like his humor. Other than some people not happy in the "We Saw your Boobs" (was that Charlize that looked **** to be mentioned?), I didn't really hear any groans from the audience; then again, I was in a room of about 20-25 people laughing uproariously. I thought Bassey was great, as was Jennifer Hudson; Adele, Streisand and Zeta-Jones not so much (although Catherine looked STUNNING performing). I get why Babs was used (as Michelle Obama also, because they wanted to participate); but I don't think Hamlisch should have been singled out. Especially when some stars were not included in that segment-and when the only applause from the audience seemed to be over an agent or publicist, well that tells me where these folks' minds are at. The stars and guests all looked great, the women amazing, and hopefully no one went to an after-party and tore her gown, cut it and re-mended it. All in all, an enjoyable evening,with major qualifiers.

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The playing of the *JAWS* theme was very disrespectful, and not in a good way. (Mind you, I even laughed at McFarlane's John Wilkes Booth joke, so I don't think I'm a prig.) I was proud of the guy, whoever it was, who tried to shout down the *JAWS* music, until his microphone was shut off. Another talker seemed to be escorted offstage by a stagehand while he was still speaking.

 

 

 

 

 

The policy changed all-too-predictably when the "important" winners gave their speeches. Anne Hathaway (who I love) gave a rambling speech which was mercifully cut off by a soothing rendition of the *GONE WITH THE WIND* theme. Ben Affleck crammed about 10 minutes of verbiage iinto his three-minute speech , without being interrupted by music. My guess is that Daniel Day Lewis could have recited the Gettysburg Address without incident.

 

 

 

 

 

Bottom line, if they are going to subject the Oscar winners to ridicule, they should enforce the same policy against EVERYBODY. Next year, if Luise Rainer makes a comeback and becomes the first centenarian Oscar winner, she should get the *JAWS* theme played over her acceptance speech, just like all the hoi polloi winners were this year.

 

 

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