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I Like High Society over Philadelphia Story, Your Opinion ???


WhyaDuck
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Myself, if I hear Jimmy Stewart say one more time that Katherine Hepburn is beyond woman with flames shooting out of her fingertips.....but I like them all and Grant is great in this.....

 

but.....Bing....Bing and Armstrong.....Ok, Sinatra.....Grace Kelly......True Love.....but Louis Armstrong.....and Bing.....Bing is great in this......and Jackie Robinson 42, the movie companies didn't want Satchmo, but Bing INSISTSED....and Bing and Hope......Bing of the radio days, the original bobby socker.....Bing of Going My Way oscar, Bells Of St Marys......Yes Bing of World War II White Christmas.....but Bing of Les Paul hit song......Bing of Sinatra, Dean Martin movie.....Bing of WC Fields movie......Dial O for O'Malley.....The fishing Bing Golf Pro Am Bing......I really enjoy watching Bing in some of these movies.....

 

Now maybe Bing and Cary is a trade off.....maybe Kate and Grace is a trade off......maybe Jimmy and Frank is a trade off.....but Louis Armstrongs 1940s and 1950s band playing the world, Ambassador Satch, as one of my favorite albums says

 

Bing may be old hat.....Bing and Bob.....Bing and Satch......Bing and WC.......Bing and the Andrews Sisters.....Bing and Les Paul........Bing, Dean and Frank.....This guy was and is and always will be cool, and I like how he used his Paul McCartney, Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, Michael Jackson star quality to insist that THE GREAT Louis Armstrong be put on film in his movies.......

 

Bing........very good......very good.......and he gave future generations Louis Armstrong on film.....Thank You Bing.........

 

both movies are great.......Frank sings, Bing sings.....I think Bing still tops him on this one....and if Frank doesn't sing Chicago, Bing tops him on that one....Both great.....but Bing of radio young girl bobby socks crooner and Hope and Crosby and Father O' Malley and on, and on, Christmas....the guy is great.

 

I don't like alot of remakes.....but this musical version to me works, if not better.....

 

Edited by: WhyaDuck on May 3, 2013 7:28 PM

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HIGH SOCIETY is a thoroughly entertaining film.

 

THE PHILADELPHIA STORY is a classic.

 

I don't accept your trade offs, except for the fact that you needed people like Crosby and Sinatra since it was a musical. Kate and Grace a trade off, I don't think so.

 

And there is no Virginia Weidler...

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Funny, I called my mom today and she was watching this as well and she posed the idea that she didn't know which she liked best.

 

I love TPS much more b/c the cast is brilliant and I'll watch anything with Weidler and Roland Young. Seriously, Roland (along with Charlie Ruggles) is always great.

 

But as WhyaDuck says, Bing and Satchmo just reel me in. Bing really was cinematic gold as far as I'm concerned. The big hook for me are the musical numbers. I rarely get sucked into the plot of this movie but you can't beat Der Bingle when he Jazzes it up.

 

I'm a Sinatra junkie but I can take him or leave him in this film with regards to acting.

 

Hey Duck, do you cry every time you watch Father O'Malley send Ingrid Bergman away or when he sings Toora Loora Loora (spelling?) to Barry Fitzgerald? He gets me every time.

 

 

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I've never been a particular fan of High Society.

 

However, when Bing and Satchmo do that jazz number together it is sheer bliss. I like the respect that Crosby shows for the jazz musicians, too, by introducing them by name as part of his lyrics. I'm glad this film was made if ONLY for that number. Aside from that, however, it is interesting to see Crosby and Sinatra do their number together, as well.

 

 

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I love both movies - to me they both work beautifully. I am not generally a fan of musical remakes, but I think this one is terrific. Part of that could be because my mother used to play the sound track on the phonograph when I was a girl, so I knew the music long before I ever saw the movie. But, also, you did not see these two top singers like this in a movie (not back in 1956), along with such musical clout as Louis Armstrong and his band - talk about talent! Sinatra and Crosby sing beautifully together in "Well, Did You Evah." You can see how much fun they were having. But you also see Crosby's true talent when he is performing with Armstrong on "Now You Have Jazz." He loved performing with the band and it showed in this movie. As TomJH stated, "Sheer Bliss."

 

There is another interesting thing about this movie. Bing Crosby and Grace Kelly had a pretty heavy love affair just two years before this movie. He really wanted her to marry him. While Kelly had affairs with many of her leading men, her affair with Crosby lasted longer than any of the others, a lot longer. When you watch this movie, you can see that he still cared. And their recording of "True Love" brought both of them a Gold Record. That was nothing unusual for Crosby, but it certainly was for Kelly. She actually had a Gold Record before Sinatra. I couldn't believe that.

 

One last thing to note is Cole Porter's score. It was great and worked beautifully with Crosby and Sinatra's style. While you can't beat The Philladelphia Story for acting, you can't beat High Society for a musical remake - pure "class" anyway you look at it.

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> {quote:title=willbefree25 wrote:}{quote}Bing Crosby makes my teeth itch, my stomach turn, and the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

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> Oh yeah, and he beat his kids.

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> I prefer Philadelphia Story.

I'm glad to know that Crosby gave Louis Armstrong a break, but be that as it may, any movie with that singing Sominex pill is an automatic no-no for me. Anyway, the only direction that any remake of The Philadelphia Story can possibly go is down, since you can't improve on perfection.

 

And Grace Kelly for Katharine Hepburn? I don't think so. :^0

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I find it interesting (and a bit baffling) to read some people who have negative, or even hostile, feelings towards Crosby. During the mid and late '40s it's not inconceivable that he may have been the most popular person in show business. Sinatra was challenging him as a crooner but he still had song hit after song hit, and he would later be ranked as the Number One star at the movie box office for that decade.

 

I enjoy his laid back charm and easy manner on screen (and, yes, I can ignore the reports about his off screen life), and find that he can do small miracles with some song lyrics. I have far more CDs of Sinatra than I do Crosby so I guess I obviously prefer his singing, but as a screen presence, certainly during the '40s, especially when he was teamed with Bob Hope, I find Crosby a genuine pleasure to watch (and hear).

 

The Road films also proved that Crosby could be highly amusing as a comedian. He's almost as funny as Hope in those films. I enjoy the fact that he would good naturedly poke fun at himself as not the best of dancers. Watching him dance with Hope it's obvious that Bob was the better hoofer but I can't take my eyes off Bing because of his spirited, if awkward, dancing attempt.

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There are *very few* titles made before 1960 that I would say I *"hate."*

 

That said- I *hate* High Society.

 

 

Ironically, it fixes the one big problem with The Philadelphia Story, which is that Jimmy Stewart's character is kind of an a**. Sinatra gives Mike Connor a more natural take and comes off as a lot less smarmy and condescending and problematic than Stewart does in his (ironic) Oscar-winning performance (ironic because he is by far the weakest element of the original film.)

 

 

Now the problems...

 

 

I like Bing Crosby, although I get that the smugness is a problem- and it reaches sun-blotting proportions in High Society. (for the record- he was a good actor. Check out his total 180 of a performance in the otherwise absolutely HORRID The Country Girl, another rare pre-Kennedy era film that I LOATHE.) He is too cool for the room here, or at least a little too cool for someone who is getting paid to participate.

 

I don't like Celeste Holme. (period.)

 

 

And now...Grace, Grace, Grace. Sigh ...Even with the volume on mute yestrerday, I looked up from me computer and saw her working that ****-elegant bit of hers with posturing and facial expressions that would make Lillian Gish say "honey, take it down to, like, an eight, okay?" Every time she rolls her eyes and talks about how "dreadfully, dreadfully gauche " something is, I want to counter with: "Um, Grace honey, your father was a two-bit bootlegger from Pennsylvania and I think we all know just how many notches on how many headboards you owe your presence in this movie to, so like Lillian said, can we take our little Helen of Troy bit that we're working so hard to put over down to like an eight? 'Cause really..."

 

 

ps- I am an awful person.

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Wow-I love all the responses! I agree with so many:

 

>I hate films where Bing Crosby is paired with women half his age.

 

>I'll watch anything with Weidler and Roland Young. Seriously, Roland (along with Charlie Ruggles) is always great.

 

>One last thing to note is Cole Porter's score. It was great and worked beautifully with Crosby and Sinatra's style.

 

(and I didn't know that affair story, mimi-thanks!)

 

>And Grace Kelly for Katharine Hepburn? I don't think so

 

>I have far more CDs of Sinatra than I do Crosby so I guess I obviously prefer his singing, but as a screen presence, certainly during the '40s, especially when he was teamed with Bob Hope, I find Crosby a genuine pleasure to watch (and hear).

 

I too have far more Sinatra than Bing. And I too am a fan of the Road pictures...they hold up well from teen to adult.

 

The only other thing I'd point out is the "look" of each film. TPS has beautiful luminous lighting, truly giving Hepburn an otherworldly effect. HS is a color acheivement; sets and actors lit beautifully, stunning art direction and camera work in it's own right.

 

TPS has Kate in a perfectly suited role, and the photography has a dreamy quality which trumps HS musical number strength, for me at least.

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It bears mentioning that High Society was directed by *Charles Walters*, who I have the feeling was something of the B-level Vincente Minelli of MGM.

 

HS makes a bright, pastel-laden triune of Easter eggs with two of Walters's other technicolor musicals- Lili and Torch Song. Lili is pretty good, Torch Song is bad, but a fabulous, watchable bad. I think, like Minnelli, there is a chance Walters was so obsessed with visuals and colors, that he sometimes neglects other aspects of the production...only Walters was better than Minelli (at least in his later years) at not treating actors like total set-pieces (Leslie Caron and Marjorie Rambeau each earned well-deserved Oscar nominations for their work in Lili and Torch Song. )

 

 

But- like some other Minelli musicals- with Walters, *the visuals* get in the way of the musical numbers. The numbers in High Society don't seem terribly thought out or planned: it's very much of the My Fair Lady/Gigi genre of musical: *"THRILL as they SING while WALKING AROUND THE ROOM!"*...which, I dunno, I always feel lacking. And it's strange, because the sets in all three movies are very stage-like: wide, open, with highly polished floors, but no real dance movement fills them...well, except for the Two-Faced Woman number in Torch Song, which is EXHIBIT A as to why maybe Chuck stayed away from dance numbers altogether.

 

 

I think Stanley Donen would've made for a livelier show.

 

Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on May 4, 2013 9:53 AM

 

Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on May 4, 2013 9:57 AM

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But obviously, the man had a flair for color:

 

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Bing Crosby gave Louis Armstrong a break? I didn't know Satch NEEDED one!

 

 

I don't mind Bing, and I'm still out on the judgement of his "beating" his kids. In his case, I think it's more resentment on Gary's part in not being able to ride Daddy's coattails into a high ranking career. But I digress...

 

 

I prefer, on a very slim margin, *Philadelphia Story* over *High Society* , although I couldn't exactly say why. Maybe it's because I preferred Jimmy Stewart over Bing, Frank or even Cary. But all told, I never liked PS as much as most of you who DO seem to.

 

 

I can tolerate either, but I wouldn't drop everything to sit down and watch them.

 

 

Sepiatone

 

 

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> {quote:title=Sepiatone wrote:}{quote}

> Bing Crosby gave Louis Armstrong a break? I didn't know Satch NEEDED one!

By that I was only referring to WhyaDuck's statement that Bing got Armstrong into his role in High Society over the objections of the movie moguls. Since I've got recordings of Satchmo's going back to the 20's (when he was arguably at his musical peak), I fully realize that by the time High Society came out, he was already a nationally known musician. My favorite movie with Satch in it was the 1947 low budget New Orleans, which is even better remembered for having Billie Holiday in her only real role in a feature film.

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I find it interesting (and a bit baffling) to read some people who have negative, or even hostile, feelings towards Crosby.

 

Really? After all your time on this board, you still find it interesting and baffling to find that people have the courage of their own convictions, enough to HATE a star even in the face of the rest of the board who LOVES that same star?

 

Hmmmm........now *that* is interesting indeed. :)

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Yogi; I read all the comments and your comments match my feelings the closes. I'm a fan of TPS (since I love how Grant and Hepburn play off each other in all their movie parings), and the supporting cast is great (and better than HS) etc....

 

BUT I'll watch High Society just for the music scenes. In fact since I have seen the entire HS once about 10 years back I only tune in now to those music scenes. This is very similar to how I feel about Ball of Fire and A Song is Born.

 

As for the casting of Steward or Sinatra as Mike; Well Sinatra's persona does fit the character as written better than Steward, but one could say the casting of Steward was brilliant since it helped distract the audiance from the true nature of Mike (a cad) and thus lighten up the movie (i.e. keep it from being too melodramatic).

 

 

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High Society was fun, love the Sinatra & Crosby number "Well, Did You Evah?" Always great to hear Cole Porter songs! But I do prefer The Philadelphia Story. Hepburn, Cary Grant, James Stewart and Ruth Hussey got it just right for me.

 

 

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*willbefree wrote: I find it interesting (and a bit baffling) to read some people who have negative, or even hostile, feelings towards Crosby.*

 

*Really? After all your time on this board, you still find it interesting and baffling to find that people have the courage of their own convictions, enough to HATE a star even in the face of the rest of the board who LOVES that same star?*

 

*Hmmmm........now that is interesting indeed. :)*

I suppose there's not a celebrity in the world, past or present, that someone has not found a reason to work up a strong hatred over. Still, what I find a bit baffling is what there is about the laid back screen persona of Crosby that would produce such strong emotions. If, indeed, that's all you're judging him on.

 

Again, though, I like to think that I can make an observation about a performer based strictly upon what I see on the screen. Negative information about that same star in his or her private life may disappoint me in that person (and alter my opinion about wanting to meet them, for example) but not change my opinion about their overall talent and screen likeability. As a matter of fact, having heard a few things about Crosby in his personal life that don't make him sound like a particularly warm or nice guy in turn makes me appreciate his ability as an actor all the more since it doesn't show on screen.

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Tom while I tend to view (judge) movie stars, athlete, musicians etc... only on their work my personal observations is that most people view them based on factors OUTSIDE of their work.

 

For example, last week I'm sitting with a few guys I have never meet and we were discussing the Lakers. We were all Lakers fans. Well the topic of Kobe comes up and most of them hate Kobe. They ask me and I say I love Kobe. They ask why. My answer; The Lakers have won 5 rings while Kobe was a star on their team and thus if you are truely a Laker fan you must, by definition LOVE Kobe! END OF STORY from my POV, but the rest of the guys had a confused look. (oh, and I added that if Kobe played for the Celtics I would hate him!).

 

So since I knew the rumors about Crosby, I wasn't baffled. In fact I have come to expect it.

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{font:arial, helvetica, sans-serif}*Tom while I tend to view (judge) movie stars, athlete, musicians etc... only on their work my personal observations is that most people view them based on factors OUTSIDE of their work.*

 

Fair enough, James and I understand that. That's precisely why, when it came to analyzing why someone might HATE Bing Crosby, I made a point of saying that I try to judge him ONLY by what I see of him as a performer. If willbefree or someone else hates Crosby, I'm baffled by it if is based on his persona and talent only. If it is based on personal issues regarding him, that is another issue.{font}

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Well, as a matter of course, I do not look kindly to a remake of a classic motion picture, especially a 50s musical remake of a 30s (or in this case, early 40s) romantic comedy. But, HS is a rare exception, in that it comes close to being as good as the original....maybe because this one doesn't star June Allyson, and the cast is great overall, with strong chemistry between them, and the show features beautiful (Techni?)color, excellent songs, etc. Grace can't quite overcome Kate preformance-wise in my book, but she is a feast for the eyes nonetheless. And James Stewart is his usual annoying self, early on anyway (although I do enjoy him in his rare dispaly of passion in the "hearth fires" scene). TPS is tops, but HS is very good, especially for a remake.

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