Dargo2 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Where in heck is the air intake on that "JA-3 experimental aircraft" that Bogie is flyin' around tonight in this flick Chain Lightning ??? 'Cause it's obviously supposed to be a turbine jet powered plane from the sound it's making and because no manned rocket powered winged aircraft, then OR now, could have near the range that Bogie's a/c was supposed to have here. What I'm thinkin' here is that the technical staff at Warner Brothers knew of the Bell X-2 ROCKET powered experimental plane and decided to make a mockup of it and use that in this movie. (...okay, okay...maybe I answered my own question here, huh) Btw...I LOVE Raymond Massey playing these "corporate magnate" types! Reminds me a little of his character in The Fountainhead, but a little nicer. Edited by: Dargo2 on Jun 10, 2013 8:06 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBackTransformer Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Years ago there was a colorized print of Chain Lightning making the syndication rounds on independent stations. I wish tcm woulda shown that. Color makes Matt Brennan's fantastic flight even more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clore Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I thought that it was some sort of stealth aircraft - at times I could see right through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaytonf Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Air intake? This is the movies, man. They don't need no stinking air intake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikisoo Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 >This is the movies, man. They don't need no stinking air intake! This question reminds me of all the movies where you see a car speeding away on a dirt road punctuated by a squealing tire sound as it rounds a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casablancalover2 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 h4. The Laws of Physics don't apply in Tinseltown I dunno, Dargo. Maybe the same reason they can walk around the Millennium Falcon in Star Wars. I know I spent a good hour last night reading up on mid-sized corporate jets and if you can conceivably retrofit the interior in a 24 hour turn-around time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 OK, you noticed this "air intake" problem. I have no idea what an "air intake" is. What % 0f viwers of this film know what an air intake is? What % of viewers who DO know what an air intake is would recognize the problem?.......That's why the studio didn't give a f***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 >OK, you noticed this "air intake" problem. I have no idea what an "air intake" is. Wow finance! I gotta say I'm somewhat shocked to find you apparently fall into that category of individuals(sorry any ladies out there reading this, but yes, percentage-wise it DOES tend to be of the "fairer sex") in this modern age who when asked how an automobile works would reply: "Hey, all I know is that I put the key in the ignition and it starts up!" **** (...btw ladies, you are now free to grab those pitchforks and torches and camp in front of my house if ya want...but PLEASE place the better lookin' of ya in the front row facing my abode!!!) ...continuing to **** here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBackTransformer Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I guess I like Chain Lightning primarily because of Matt Brennan's Alaska to DC high altitude flight. I don't like the beginning with the WWII Bogart-Parker romance BS and Richard Whorf's Carl Troxell is somewhat irritating. Who is Troxell to lecture Brennan or any other pilot of his caliber on the collective debt of all pilots to aviation? Kinda self-righteously arrogant if you ask me and Brennan's ignorance throughout the picture is just as bad. Of course, Brennan is not so ignorant when he makes his suggestions to Willis about modifying the JA3 to make an Alaska to DC high altitude flight possible and after completing his fabulous flight Brennan refers to his pressure suit as a "Buck Rogers monkey suit". I mean why would Brennan mock a pre-space age technology that has made his flight even possible? Would a top test pilot even say something as dismissive as that? I think Bogart realized that he was somewhat out of his element with this particular film's subject matter so he wanted lines that favored his past hard-boiled gangster tough guy persona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 Yeah, I suppose you bring up some good points here, however what I'm MOST glad about is that you brought up the name of Richard Whorf here. Ya see, for YEARS I've thought that that guy looks a whole lot like Eddie Cantor, and so I've been wondering if I'm crazy, OR if anyone else out there thinks this TOO??? (...btw...you ARE welcomed to answer the above as a two part question if you'd like) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I also think so, but I don't give a f***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 LOL Really finance?! You don't care, HUH?! Then how about writtin' me up a three page essay on why you feel this way then??? (...oh, wait..THAT'S right...never mind!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I kinda think Whorf looked like Cantor, too. I wonder if he would still look the same in BLACKFACE? Dargo, I honestly believe even the GUYS in the audience back then would have thought about the air intake( Yes! I KNOW what it is!!), so wrapped up in the "space age" design of the jet plane they would be. (Sounded a bit YODA-like there, huh?) But ya gotta realize...today, they would have given serious consideration to sniggling little details like the air intake, and spent far less time developing the STORY! Also, btw, we DON'T wonder if you're crazy. We're pretty much SURE of it! Sepiatone Edited by: Sepiatone on Jun 11, 2013 6:05 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 They both had the same bug-eyed look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heuriger Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 > {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}They both had the same bug-eyed look. That Sylvia Sydney look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 > But ya gotta realize...today, they would have given serious consideration to sniggling little details like the air intake, and spent far less time developing the STORY! LOL Ain't THAT the truth!!! >Also, btw, we DON'T wonder if you're crazy. We're pretty much SURE of it! Well, it's AT LEAST nice to know I have a confirmed diagnosis here then!!! (...there's NOTHIN' worse than not knownin' and waitin' for all those test results to come in, ya know!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SansFin Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 There were plans made for airplanes to have their air intakes be narrow slits positioned in the top of the wings. It was believed in this way to lessen the air pressure on the top of the wings which would increase lift. I know of no aircraft built in this way. I find it odd that later developments included porting some of the jet engine's exhaust in laminar flow over the wings because adding that stream of air increased lift by the coandă effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 Ya know Sans, this is yet ANOTHER reason why I really like you! (...not ONLY are your English skills second to none around here, BUT you ALSO now appear to be one of the very few Gearheads like me around here TOO!!!) Edited by: Dargo2 on Jun 11, 2013 3:37 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heuriger Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 > {quote:title=SansFin wrote:}{quote} > > because adding that stream of air increased lift by the coandă effect. > Indeed. I'm very familiar with the piña coandă effect. One minute you're flying high, then the next you've crashed to the floor. Those things are potent, fer sure. Oh Ralph, Ralph, Ralph dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 LOL Ya know heuriger, I was JUST about to go in that direction with my response to the Sans also, BUT I figured instead I'd go with a little on-going inside joke I have going with the extremely intelligent and articulate lady from Odessa. (...Ukraine..NOT Texas, btw...nobody THAT smart comes from Texas, ya know!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heuriger Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Ya know what the old adage is, Dargo. Great minds think alike. B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 Yeah, but what the heck does THAT have to do with US TWO???? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 >There were plans made for airplanes to have their air intakes be narrow slits positioned in the top of the wings. I think maybe the plane in the movie is supposed to be a rocket plane instead of a jet. In fact, I think the plane they see over Germany, in the old newsreel footage, is a German rocket plane instead of a jet, such as a Messerschmitt Me 163. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SansFin Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 > {quote:title=Dargo2 wrote:}{quote} > you ALSO now appear to be one of the very few Gearheads like me around here TOO!!!) I am sorry to disappoint you but I do not consider myself a Gearhead. I dated pilots and engineers and so I learned some things by being interested in their work. I had also an automobile and in that place at that time that meant learning mechanicals to the point of doing maintenance and effecting minor repairs. I do like watching: Top Gear on BBC but it is because they are crazy people and not because of the automobiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 Yep Sans, I do get a kick out of what comes out of Jeremy Clarkson's mouth and the antics of his two co-hosts, myself. (...especially when he kids us Yanks by means of his oh so British dry wit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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