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I Love Barlow in The Big Sleep


TomJH
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Yes, I know, you thought there was a spelling error in that thread title, didn't you? But there wasn't.

 

With all the talk on the Dark Passage thread about Tom D'Andrea as the cabbie, I had a thought about that other cabbie that took Bogart for a ride - the sexy lady cabbie in The Big Sleep.

 

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And there she is - JOY BARLOW!!!

 

And do you remember some of that snappy dialogue between the two?

 

Barlow: "Listen if you ever need a ride again . . ."

 

Marlow: "Day or night?"

 

Barlow: "Night. I work during the day."

 

Barlow, Marlowe, getting a little confusing, isn't it? Nevertheless, we all knew what they're talking about. I guess a lot of male viewers had many a fantasy about hitching a ride with this particular cab driver (though I'm pretty sure there never was one that looked quite like this).

 

Well, here's a brief tribute to an actress/singer/dancer (apparently), whose film career went the same way as so many others. But she, Bogart and director Howard Hawks gave us all that moment. And, for that, Joy Barlow has a bit of film immortality.

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(with due apologies to Bill Maher for "appropriating" his "New Rules" routine)

 

NEW RULE:

 

IF a thread is no longer than 1 page in length by the time finance stumbles across it, he MUST read the whole thing BEFORE posting one of his one-liners in it!

 

;)

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Okay...but ONE PAGE..just ONE PAGE???

 

I mean I can your point here IF, say, you might have just run across a thread for the first time that's as long as, say, that George Brent sucker over there in Hot Topics.

 

(...but NOT one that's just ONE PAGE so far!)

 

LOL

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As a piece of trivia, Joy Barlow (immortalized as that cabbie in The Big Sleep, brief as that scene may be) also appeared uncredited in the first of the Bogart-Bacall films, To Have and Have Not.

 

It's a classic throwaway scene for her, as a young lady listening to the great Hoagy Carmichael as he sings "Hong Kong Blues."

 

Here's a shot from the film:

 

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I know it's impossible to tell from this angle but that is Barlow in the foreground on the left looking at Hoagy.

 

If you still doubt me (and I can't say that I blame you based on that picture) here's the proof. Here's a link to a YouTube recording of Hoagy doing his Hong Kong Blues thing. Take a look at the girl in the white dress leaning on the piano, just to Hoagy's right, and it's a smiling Joy, who would be smiling even more soon afterward when she was cast as the cabbie in The Big Sleep.

 

 

 

 

 

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While Barlow is nice to look at one of the only flaws I find in The Big Sleep is that Hawks has Marlow flirt with every gal he comes across in the film. It starts with the blonde at the public library (a gal that without the glasses and her hair down I'm sure was a knockout), and goes on and on.

 

Yes, this flirting does reduce some of the tension but since Hawks overuses the device, IMO it adds a silliness that the film doesn't need. Now his scenes with Carmen are part of the plot (as it relates to Regan, and how Carmen acts when rejected by a man) so they are fine. But if I was the director I would of limited this over the top ladies man type stuff to that one scene with Malone.

 

 

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James, I think that Bogie's flirting with every woman in The Big Sleep is a huge part of the attraction of the male fantasy identification with this film Marlowe, in much the same fashion as would later be the case with James Bond. This film is really a romantic film noirish fantasy. And the romantic part is that, no matter how much Marlowe flirts or even fools around with a few of the women (such as the book store clerk), it's Lauren Bacall's character that, in the end, has his heart.

 

The fact that Bogart didn't really look like every woman's idea of a dream mate sort of adds to the film's amusement, as far as I'm concerned. As cool as Bogart's screen persona was, it still must have been comforting for a lot of males in the audience that it was an ordinary looking guy like him that seemed to have the women in such a lather in this film (rather than a Robert Taylor or Cary Grant).

 

As I stated in the Dark Passage thread, there never was another film in which Bogie was presented as such a hot magnet to the opposite sex. And along the lines of male fantasy, we have, among others, Joy Barlow as the cabbie.

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I have no issue with the romantic Bogie Bacall parts of the movie. Yea, these scenes (some shot as part of the post WWII re-do), make the film less noir but I still love them. Why? Because there was magic with Bogie and Bacall. So I understand why Jack Warner and Hawks would wish to exploit that after they were married. I see a fine balance between the romantic and the noir as it relates to their relationship in the film (in the book Marlow is having an affair with Mrs. Mars).

 

BUT the other flirting scenes, while funny and cute, distract from the noir vision and Bogie Bacall romance as well. Thus I still don't feel they were necessary. But I get your point (and when I frist saw the film on the big screen during a Bogie tribute in Hollywood the Barlow one was one the guys and I loved).

 

As for post Bogie movies where he was a 'hot magnet' to women; How about Beat The Devil? He has two very attractive women in that one! (come on, Gina as a wife and Jennifer as your girlfriend).

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Well, James, Gina and Jennifer were certainly quite lovely in Beat the Devil but that film is, after all, an odd little comedy (okay a parody of some thrillers) while Big Sleep is, I believe, an out and out male fanatsy (with all those lovely ladies) in a film noir setting.

 

And that's quite a collection of ladies who oogle Bogie, Joy Barlow, Dorothy Malone and Martha Vickers. Speaking of Vickers, I just watched The Burglar, one of Eddie Muller's film noir selections last Friday. An older but still beautiful and sensual Vickers made a very nice impression upon me in that film. I know you're a Martha Vickers fan so I hope you caught it. (The film itself is well worth viewing , as well, aside from Vickers).

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> {quote:title=TomJH wrote:}{quote}Yes, I know, you thought there was a spelling error in that thread title, didn't you? But there wasn't.

Oh no, Tom, I know to expect better than that from you. :) Nice little tribute.

 

It's funny - I remember I was watching The Maltese Falcon once, and my dad made some sort of comment about Bogart being ugly. It kind of told me aback. Once he found his film-niche by the 1940s, Bogie had such a compelling presense on-screen. I'd certainly never mistake the man for an Adonis :D, but I find him far more attractive than a bland Ken doll like Robert Taylor (no offense to Mr. Taylor's admirers - to each his own).

 

I think James's critique of Marlowe's chronic flirting has merit, but I can't say that aspect of the movie has ever really bothered me, either. The Big Sleep simply is not as dark and hopeless a film in tone as most noirs. It has that Hawks-ian vibe and repartee.

 

And to be fair, ol' Phil doesn't compel literally every member of the XX chromosome crowd into adulation. Agnes (Geiger's bookstore clerk/poor Elisha Cook, Jr.'s gal) seems consistently un-oogly. ;)

 

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Sadly I missed The Burglar since I was on vacation in lake Tahoe and the hotel didn't have TCM. I really wanted to see this film since I'm a big Vickers fan. Check out her 'images' on the web. There are a lot of publicity stills of her taken by WB between 44 - 46 and to me she takes the sexiest picture of anyone. Yea, they get to me even more so than Ava from the same period. But Vickers was limited as far as acting. So I was interested to see her years after The Big Sleep. The book Film Noir (Silver Ward), says this late noir is a forced noir. i.e. they use every noir device there is. Did you get that feeling?

 

Note that I did stay at Bridgeport and we went to the house used in Out of The Past (the one Amy lived in). We also took the same drive Jeff would of taken to get from Bridgeport to Tahoe. The Walker valley drive is one of the top 2 or 3 best routes I have even driven.

 

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