Dothery Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Wow. I just finished watching it and I'm all wrung out. I'd forgotten how brutal it was. And I'd forgotten too how great the cast was. All headliners. Amazing. I was a little startled to see Nancy Sinatra with a screen credit for the footage of her with her father when he got the award. Must be a SAG rule. Stephen Boyd was good when he was given the chance. This one was too over the top to be really good, but there were some moments where he was a tiny bit subtle. I keep connecting him with Dolores Hart, the nun who was his friend for so many years. She said he was very spiritual and was a lovely man. I got a kick out of the interview with her that I read a while ago. She said the only thing the other sisters in the convent wanted to know about her Hollywood years was, what was Elvis like? She said she always told them her thoughts about him, that he was polite and nice and she liked him. Where was I? Oh. Stephen Boyd. Yeah. He was onscreen the whole time, it seemed. Must have been a hard job, being in almost every scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brackenhe Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I'd never seen this movie before but found it strangely compelling. I actually thought Edie Adams, in her couple of scenes, very good. Boyd was adequate, and Tony Bennett wasn't too awful, in spite of the scenery chewing. Milton Berle was actually pretty good too. It wasn't nearly the train wreck I was expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBackTransformer Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The only reason TCM ran THE OSCAR this morning was because of this Eleanor Parker cycle they're currently in but no matter I will watch this whenever they show it. Stephen Boyd is an absolute howl. What a low-life crud but it's his performance throughout that makes this so unforgettable and entertaining. I don't care what anybody says this is a classic or it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBackTransformer Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 *"That's how it's done." :^0 :^0 :^0* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Tony Bennett may be close to Sinatra as a singer, but he is not on the same planet as an actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Wasnt that his one and only acting role? (LOL)...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Justifiably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBackTransformer Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 This film is superior to any movie or TV show being made in Hollywood today 100% of which is now mostly unwatchable garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joefilmone Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 "The Oscar" is very entertaning trash- sorry but there are plenty of current tv shows and movies that are better than this "classic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I assume that trash is more watchable than garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Unless of course, it would be a British movie were talkin' about here, and THEN "rubbish" would be a LITTLE more watchable than "refuse" would be. (...btw...anyone else around here think "The Carpetbaggers" might be as much of one of these "guilty pleasures" as the "The Oscar" is?...'cause I SURE think so, anyway!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavenderblue19 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Yes, I do, I do ( waving my hand in the air) So much fun watching these types of movies about Hollywood. Interesting, don't know if it's true, but George Peppard, was suppose to be not the nicest fella in Hollywood. Not very well liked, or respected.Of course, you can't think of it as the best follow up to another film, that I like very much *Nevada Smith* . But for a trashy, fun film *The Carpetbaggers* is the same type of guilty veiwing pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Wow Lavender. It sounds as if you might think Nevada Smith is one of the most underrated and under-appreciated Westerns ever made too, eh?! So many great characters fleshed out by some great actors in that one. (...love the ending especially...it's nothin' like any other Western I can recall offhand) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavenderblue19 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 You may be overstating a little. I said I liked *Nevada Smith* very much. Karl Malden yelling "ya yella" and "finish me off". Good ending. I have to admit, whenever *Nevada Smith* is on I do watch and I do have a copy of the film. Another trashy Hollywood film, actually 2, are *Harlow* . Carroll Baker and Carol Lynley versions. Satisfying trashy Holluwood films to fulfill that guilty pleasure mood we get into. although, 2 versions! Maybe that was carrying it a little too far. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StBartsActor Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 My best trash is Valley of the Dolls....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 LOL. A classic. The 60s produced so many trashy guilty pleasures............(I call them So Bad They're Good Films)......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Yeah, Carroll Baker was on a trashy roll (no pun intended!) in the 60s (Harlow and Carpetbagger) they may have been filmed back to back. Sylvia was another one. And to think she came from the Actor's Studio (LOL!) Wonder what Strasberg thought? Oh, I thought of another one! Station Six Sahara! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I never saw the Lynley version. I'm not sure it got any tv attention....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StBartsActor Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 HBO recently showed a documentary on Richard Zanuck and he said the "hardest thing he ever had to do in his role as head of 20th was to go into Judy Garland's dressing room and fire her from Valley of the Dolls". He told her "I am doing you a favor". I thought, "boy, did you get that right". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 ...and Garland died , like, a year later, right?........What a favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StBartsActor Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I just heard on the news today that Garland died today in 1969! So it was not long after, not sure exactly what year Valley was but it was a year or two before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StBartsActor Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Agree that Carroll Baker's career got a bit derailed, shall we say? But I liked her. Baby Doll, Giant....... I did not know she came from the Actor's Studio. And let's not forget Ice Station Zebra or is that the same thing as Station Six Sahara? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I always thought "Ice Station Zebra" wasn't a bad flick at all, StBart! I know some people think it's a bit of a joke, but I always thought it ratcheted up the tension rather nicely, and the special effects STILL kinda hold up to this day. And, ya just GOTTA love the expression on Jim Brown's face when he figures out much too late who the bad guy really is. MAYBE the best acting Jim ever did, EH?! LOL (...AND, whenever it's shown on TV, in honor of Howard Hughes, I NEVER clip my toenails OR fingernails while watchin' it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StBartsActor Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 To be fair, I have not seeen Ice Station Zebra since the movies. Maybe it has something to do with my having a date way back then and I never heard from her again..... it had to have been the film, right? I think I will netflix it just to see Jim Brown's expressions..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I think Dolls was released in '67 and may have been made the year before, so it was awhile... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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