Orson Welles and film noir

[Iamhere]

http://www.jeremyizzo.com/touch-of-noir

 

I read this articl and it got me thinking.... film noir is a tough genre to define.

[cigarjoe]

Its really not a genre, its a style.

[Iamhere]

I guess he goes on to sugguest that noir isn't a style or genre but an art movement.

 

 

 

[i|http://www.jeremyizzo.com/film-noir-as-an-art-movement] had a profesor you shared the same view but he wasn't able to really explain as well.

[cigarjoe]

Nobody ever started out saying we are making a Film Noir.

[jamesjazzguitar]

 

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{font:}True. But many producers director, especially in the 50s, observe the style used by others and intentionally made movies where they utilized what some would call a noir style.

 

 

{font:}E.g. The Burglar is a good example of this. {font}{font}

[CartonNoir]

Could we add to the definition by including what the film does to us? How do you feel during and after "The Postamn Always Rings Twice", "The Asphalt Jungle", "Double Indemnity" ? Whatever that is for you, try calling that Film Noir and see if it holds up.

[Iamhere]

http://www.jeremyizzo.com/film-noir-as-an-art-movement

[H|http://www.jeremyizzo.com/film-noir-as-an-art-movement]e explains it further here. I agree. He also takes a close look at THE BIG COMBO, and by not looking at it as a genre it makes the film that much more intersting. These films are no more genres as german new objectivity or italian neo realism were genre's.

 

Orson welles made his own films. All our idas of a film noir genre could be applied to welles fims...that proves that there is a problem with this.