CaptainRenault Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I know TCM needs filler between movies, but listening to Scorsese and Pollack, et al whine about "pan n' scan" is getting on my nerves. They try to portray "TV execs" as bad guys for ordering "pan n' scan". Of course "pan n' scan" was always annoying, but at the time it was done it was necessary. At that time it was done, we all had 17" TV's. To show a wide screen movie in letterbox on those TV's would have been like watching a movie on a smart phone... only the resolution would have sucked and we'd have had to sit three feet from the TV. Why does TCM keep running this? Nobody runs "pan n' scan" anymore. We all have wide screen TV's with a variety of aspect ratios and can watch movies as they were shown in theaters. Why try to villify guys who did the what was necessary given the technology of their times and whose "crimes" no longer harm anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Many cable stations (and movie cable stations) still run pan and scan versions. I see them all the time. That said, I'm tired of seeing it too, but it costs money to create new shorts. I'm sure that's why....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikisoo Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 TCM is still showing that filler spot? Gives me the heebie jeebies just thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 >That said, I'm tired of seeing it too, but it costs money to create new shorts. I'm sure that's why....... Saaay, ya wanna know what might not cost TCM all that much for some new Shorts/Fillers? Well, how about if they purchase or rent all those old "What's My Line" shows from GCN and maybe show the "mystery guest" segments of that show featurin' all those old movie stars? Now wouldn't that be kinda fun to see? (...though come to think of it, maybe this has already all been brought up before around here, huh!) LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I assume the 'What's My Line" segments will not be in letterbox.... Gee, if it's pan and scan, will the panelists on both ends, Bennett Cerf and Dorothy Kilgallen, be missing from the screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Well, just as long as they don't "pan and scan" out Arlene Francis too much, I'd be more than satisfied! AND as long as people would remember that the momentarily "panned and scanned" out Bennett Cerf was INDEED Bennett Cert and NOT Elmer Fudd, then that shouldn't present too much of a problem EITHER, wouldn't ya think? (...or as Bennett would say during the opening of each program: "And now, heahas ouwah Modawaytah, John Chawals Daly!") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicalnovelty Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 CaptainRenault said... Why does TCM keep running this? Nobody runs "pan n' scan" anymore. We all have wide screen TV's... ====================================== No, we don't "all" have wide screen TV's. I'm still watching a regular TV from 1988 that refuses to die, and have two others as back-up if it ever does finally conk out, that are from similar vintage, if not older. And some of my friends also haven't felt the need to upgrade to wide screen (although don't have sets quite as old as mine). Admittedly, those who have no interest in or are in no hurry to "upgrade" to wide screen are probably in the minority...I still play 78 RPM records, 45's and LP's, record music on audio cassettes, and play and record VHS video tapes. And I'm just fine with all of those allegedly out-dated formats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Hey MN! Did ya HEAR? Lindbergh made it all the way to Paris! (...sorry, couldn't resist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavenderblue19 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Same here musical, 3 tv's from the late '80's and 2 old VCR's and somehow I manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Oh, and Lavender...that guy Armstrong? Well, his first words were "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind"! (...yeah, sorry...couldn't resist that one either) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicalnovelty Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Yes, I hear he's over there enjoying the Paris sites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Uh huh...though not surprisingly as you also might have heard, word from the continent is he keeps getting mistaken for Jimmy Stewart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavenderblue19 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Oh and Drago, I accept all contributions, cash, check, MO. I'll always think of you while watching my new Big Screen TV. that YOU paid for. Thanks LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Okay, then just stand at your mailbox for the next 10 days and that check(or "cheque", if ya wanna go all French here) o' mine SHOULD be in there by then. And AAH...No CHEATIN' now! Ya gotta stand by that sucker 24 hours a day! Okay, you can lay down next to it for 8 of those hours...I'll allow ya that. (...and no, I don't trust that there "PayPal" thing AT ALL, just in case you're wonderin') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavenderblue19 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Nah, like I said I'm fine with my old tv's and VCR, somehow I manage. Bet musical and I know and have seen as many movies as you have, and have enjoyed them just as much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Yeah, probably. (...but I'll betcha watchin' an itty bitty Peter O'Toole crossin' the desert in that Letterbox format on YOUR TV, isn't near as good as watchin' it on MY Hi-Def 50in TV screen!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavenderblue19 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Show- Off LOL True, but what can I say, except "and that's the way it is" btw, saw LOA when it first came out in a THEATRE- MUCH bigger screen than your 50". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 LOL Yep, as long as ya love old movies, that's what really counts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavenderblue19 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 And you know I do Here's an idea, you can probably get a deal on airline tcikets with your connections, invite us over to your place, I'm sure your wife would just love to have all your TCM friends over LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicalnovelty Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 And you know I do Here's an idea, you can probably get a deal on airline tickets with your connections, invite us over to your place, I'm sure your wife would just love to have all your TCM friends over. LOL. ============================== Hey, sounds swell! So, when are we goin'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicalnovelty Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Dargo2 said... (...but I'll betcha watchin' an itty bitty Peter O'Toole crossin' the desert in that Letterbox format on YOUR TV, isn't near as good as watchin' it on MY Hi-Def 50in TV screen!) =========================== That's okay...I don't ever intend to willingly see another moment of that way-to-long boring over-rated snooze-fest again anyway! Instead, give me 4 or 5 fast & fun Monogram or PRC's that I can enjoy in the same amount of time it would take to struggle through that desert thing, and I'll be happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavenderblue19 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 That's up to Dargo. Maybe we should all check the TCM schedule and decide which week of films we all want to see the most. September's line-up is great. Hey Dargo, you can always charge admission LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crock1960 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Yeah, I've watched this about 50 times. I get it already. What I'd love is if they'd make more of "What A Character." I've seen only three of these, and they could make at least 50 more. Speaking of character actors, my wife and own three TCM published books: Leading Actors, Leading Actresses and Leading Couples. I've often told my wife that if TCM wanted to publish a book about character actors, it would be about three times the thickness of the books I just mentioned. Of course, anytime TCM airs a MGM or Warner Brothers movie I'm always checking the credits for familar names of character actors. Hell, I even check the credits for Cedric Gibbons or Irene. Damn you, TCM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 LOL Well, I have to say I wouldn't have a problem with all that, however, ya know that little motorcycle rally I've mentioned I throw every June that brings about 20-30 folks to our home here in Sedona...well ya see, my wife was just sayin' the other day how nice it is that we only do somethin' like that ONCE a year, and I gotta say I agree with her. BUT, tell you folks what...IF ya ever find yourself around this beautiful area of the country, you just send me a little ol' PM tellin' me when that'll be, and I'm sure we can work somethin' out. (...though the airfare will be your responsibility) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanceycravat Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 > {quote:title=CaptainRenault wrote:}{quote}I know TCM needs filler between movies, but listening to Scorsese and Pollack, et al whine about "pan n' scan" is getting on my nerves. > > > > > > > > Why does TCM keep running this? Nobody runs "pan n' scan" anymore. We all have wide screen TV's with a variety of aspect ratios and can watch movies as they were shown in theaters. > Captain, my Captain - I must take exception to this post for one simple reason. While, I too am a little tired of this particular segment, I must point out that not all people with widescreen TV's understand or in fact care about letterboxing. I can't tell you how many homes I've been to where they refuse to correct the aspect ratio of the program airing be it a movie or a TV show. A few of them have told me - I paid for a big screen TV I want it all covered. I keep hoping for a multitude of epiphanies but I sincerely doubt this will ever change. So, alas, I'm glad it's still airing even though Pollack is dead and none of those directors looks the same. Yancey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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