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Carson on TCM: disappointing :(


parvulus
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Has anyone else been really disappointed by the Carson on TCM program? I wish they would just show entire episodes instead of cut up interviews...

 

I grew up in the 90s and the two things I always watched growing up were Conan and TCM, so I was really looking forward to this program, but it was just frustrating seeing the episodes cut away and end suddenly, and without any context. I've only ever seen Carson on PBS before, which was also just "best of" clip show edits. It would be great to see entire episodes, with skits, jokes about contemporary news, etc., even if some of the references weren't clear. Conan's jokes also felt really flat because of how fast-paced they forced the program to be... such a shame, it could have been an amazing program if the editing / setup was better.

 

I hope it's not some licensing difficulty that prevents them from showing the entire episodes, maybe some day they'll figure it out and just show them all the way through.

 

What did everyone else think? Does anyone actually like this interview only, cut-up interview presentation?

 

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The whole show wasn't interviews with those stars. Much as with today's late-night talk shows Carson would start with a monologue and then sometimes followed by a comedy skit or musical number and then two or three guests. The ten minutes or so that you see on TCM is pretty much the whole interview. I think what makes them choppy is that they've edited out Carson's intros to commercials that came during the interviews.

 

I enjoyed watching the first batch and even remembered some and I thank TCM for that. I do think though, that rather than watching an hour of them, I'd prefer to see them running one at a time as fillers between movies which it appears that TCM will be doing.

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I loved it ! They cut right to the point and skip all the other filler. Those old shows were 90 mins. Some Like It Hot has to show and other movies too !

 

As O'Brien said, we get to see things we would never see today. Roger Ebert giving a thumbs down to a film Chevy Chase just came on to promote and is sitting right behind him. That was too much :^0 !

 

Steve Martin pre "The Jerk" was on top of his game too. I miss those days. Talk shows now are just too bland and contrived. I love this new concept.

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I guess I can understand that people don't want to take time away from showing movies since it is TCM after all, but I'd still rather see the entire episodes. I used to watch TCM a lot more, but now I get my classic movie fix through the computer mostly; it doesn't bother me much that it would detract from the expected TCM schedule. Back when Robert Osbourne introduced everything there was no better place to go for classic movies, but I feel like nowadays that they show so many recent movies like 70s, 80s movies, and they have that obnoxious Ben Manckowitz guy introducing, I usually prefer to just watch old movies elsewhere.

 

To me, cutting it up so it's just _part_ of _only the interviews_ is no better than cutting up a movie and showing it edited, or reading an abridged version of a book. It's just not right! Give me all or nothing! :P

 

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Here ya go parvulus! Maybe THIS'LL help ya feel a little bit better about this whole thing!...

 

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"And now after our next commercial, our first guest with be the lady Carnac just named".

 

(...sooooo parvulus...feelin' any better NOW???...oh, and btw, welcome to the boards...and yep, I'm sorry to report IF you stick around, you're SURE to run across much more of my brand of levity around here...sorry) ;)

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LOL. He got off on a weird tangent talking about pornography. Doris hardly had time to talk about her book (which was a huge best seller at the time). Not one of his best. I remember watching it at the time, but not what they talked about. Doris did look great.

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Too bad. Wasnt aware it was out of print. You can probably find used copies somewhere (half.com etc.) She was in her 50s by that appearance. It started a trend (for awhile) in biographies that had people commenting/interviewed (by Hotchner) interspersed in her narrative. Hotchner went on to work with Sophia Loren on hers........

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Doris was 53 when she did the show - she turned 54 in April. The show in its entirety was more entertaining because the next guest was Rex Reed who talked a great deal about Doris' book which he'd just finished reading.

 

Although Doris states she is not sure if she'll ever get married again, while on the show, she did in fact remarry 2 1/2 months later, to Barry Comden a "greeter" at The Old World Restaurant on Sunset. He turned out to be another user and his "Fortress Mentality" (her words) prevented her from accepting some interesting offers that came her way in the latter 70's.

 

OIlivia New John did approach Doris about making her film debut (this was pre-"Grease") in a film version of Doris Day's book. They met at Day's home on North Crescent Drive but Doris did not want her story filmed although parts of "New York New York" certainly read like her Big Band days and first marriage to a musician who beat her. (He was the father of her son Terry)

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