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Have the DVR set to record "The Big Sky" early tomorrow. TCM always shows the re-patched version with the uneven film sources which is the best of the two options.

Hank Worden as Poor Devil, Arthur Hunnicutt, a terrific Dimitri Tiomkin score and Kirk singing Whiskey Leave Me Alone make this a highly enjoyable film.

"Sic 'em, Boon".

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The more Kirk Douglas movies I see, the higher my opinion of him gets, in spite of the fact that he performed in several of my least favorite genres. You might call him the male counterpart of Barbara Stanwyck, in that he's both a "star" *and* an "actor", and like Stanwyck (but very few others), he excelled in every type of film he played in, from noirs to westerns to serious social drama. Definitely one of the very best..

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>Andy said: The more Kirk Douglas movies I see, the higher my opinion of him gets, in spite of the fact that he performed in several of my least favorite genres.

 

Indeed! I feel exactly the same way!

 

He's always Kirk, but boy he sure can stretch for any genre - soaper, western, war, costumer...

 

Just finished watching A DETECTIVE STORY where his performance was over-the-top. But boy, that kind of performance just grabs the viewer, not unlike Cagney.

 

No Kirk film is complete without the sneer and girly scream & I wasn't disappointed!

But I love him best in LONELY ARE THE BRAVE because of his relationship with Whiskey the horse. (which I covered in a thread over a year ago)

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Not sure if that's totally true here, Arturo.

 

I've always thought he delivered all of his comically sarcastic lines in "The Devil's Disciple" extremely well, and of which there were many. And though of course this film isn't strictly a "comedy", there is a lot of subtle wit expressed throughout the film.

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Yes, admittedly in "The Devil's Disciple" he "spat out" his lines, but as I implied below, I thought that manner of his line delivery was very appropriate for the character he played.

 

However, other than that example which came quickly to my mind, your point is probably a very valid one.

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When it comes to a comparison of Kirk Douglas to Burt Lancaster, I like both actors very much. However, while I think that Lancaster appeared in more good films than Douglas, I always thought that Douglas appeared in more great films than his counter part.

 

And if I had to go with one Douglas performance over all the others, my vote would be for one of the actor's own personal favourites, that of the loner cowboy on the run from the law and modern technology ('60s version, that is) in Lonely Are the Brave.

 

The relationship between the cowboy and his horse, Whiskey, in the film is genuinely touching because of the love that Douglas is able to convey in his feelings for the animal. He talks to Whiskey and natters at him, as he would an intimate friend.

 

I particularly love that moment towards the picture's climax in which Douglas, realizing that the horse is slowing him down and he can escape the authorities if he tries to make a run for it over the mountain on foot, tethers the horse, and starts to make his climb to almost certain freedom.

 

Douglas takes a final look back at the horse, and there's a beautiful shot of Whiskey looking up at him, with a look of "How can you leave me?" on his face. There's also a vulnerability to the animal, leaving him behind to whatever fate may await him.

 

Douglas turns his back on him and half heartedly starts to walk away before climbing back down to the animal again. He just can't abandon his best friend even though the chances of his being captured with the horse are great.

 

Douglas unties the tether around Whiskey's front legs.

 

"You're worse than a woman," he says to the horse.

 

I love that moment. Anyone who has felt that special bond that can be formed with some animals will identify with Douglas at that moment, and cheer for both him and the horse to make their escape. That's why the next few minutes in the film, in turn, will be so heart breaking.

 

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finance, you're correct, Kirk is very well respected in the Hollywood community. He's a great philanthropist, gives away millions of dollars from his foundation to worthy causes all over the world. He's written 10 books. A few months back I read his book I Am Spartacus .It's a fast read and so interesting. He is responsible for giving blacklisted Dalton Trumbo screen credit when it almost cost him the film. He's had a brilliant career and so many varied roles.

 

As far as his comedic abilities, I thought he was great in *A Letter To Three Wives* . Yes, he can be a bit over the top sometimes, but the role called for an understanding but still strong husband, he pulled that off in a convincing way. I really like the guy so much. Glad he had his SUTS day.

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In ALTTW, Kirk was indeed quite effective; however, it is atypical, as it was made in his pre~star days. Having achieved stardom, he never did this well in comedy again. In any case, he was far from Stanwyck`s equL in the genre.

 

Edited by: Arturo on Sep 1, 2013 6:06 AM

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That's why I only mentioned *A Letter To Three Wives* :) It's the one role where he does a fine job in a film that had it's very funny moments.I would never compare Stanwyck to Douglas. Stanwyck was fabulous in her comedic roles. I don't think that's the genre Douglas excelled in, although even in his dramatic roles ex. *The Bad and The Beautiful* he could be effective with scarcasm. Not sure where the Stanwyck, Douglas comparison came into this conversation, certainly wasn't anything I posted.

 

I can see a comparison if your'e talking about them both being a star and an excellent actor.

 

Edited by: lavenderblue19 on Sep 1, 2013 6:18 AM

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Well I didn't initiate the comparison. Earlier here the two were said to excel in all genres they did. I stated that Kirk didn't excel in comedy, unlike Stanwyck. Exhibits 1~3: MY DEAR SECRETARY, T0P~ SECRET AFFAIR, and F0R L0VE 0R M0NEY

 

Edited by: Arturo on Sep 3, 2013 1:17 AM

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I'd like to see TCM show *Tough Guys* , Burt and Kirk's final film together, I know its too new for the classic fanatics but the actors are classics. And its a comedy, I'm sure the guys really had fun doing it and I enjoy the heck out of watching it.

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Arturo I agree, as I stated I don't think that was Kirk's best genre but I do think that he was competent enough with roles that had humorous aspects to them, especially in *Letter To Three Wives* My feeling about comparing the 2 , and I realize that neither one of us made the comparision in the first place,has more to do with both being movie stars and great actors. I love Stanwyck, I love Kirk. I'm a fan of both :)

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