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TomJH

A Tribute To Slimy Dan

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lavenderblue, I fully agree with you that YouTube is the LAST way that I would want to watch a film.

 

The one problem with your library suggestion for a specific title, however, is that there is no guaranty that it will be there. Sometimes you just have to resort to YT.

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Tom, so if it's not there so what? The library has a catalogue of films. You check the catalogue. Other branches may have the film if that local library doesn't. The computers are there and you order it from the branch that has it.That's happened to me, so I ordered it. 5 days later, viola, the film was at delivered to my local library and I got the film for 1 week! what could be easier than that. Granted, not every single film ever made will be there, but I've taken out so many great films.I think the library is a great resource.

 

This can also be done from home. Go to your local libraries website, the instructions on checking on a film and odering a film are right there.

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Thanks for the James Best anecdote, mrroberts. Now there's a face that most film buffs (particularly western) will recognize even if that can't put a name to it.

 

I didn't know that Best appeared in a brief role (or roles) in Winchester 73. I do recall him from, among other films, another Jimmy Stewart western made almost 20 years later, Firecreek. In that one he had a large part as one of Henry Fonda's bandit gang that invades Stewart's small town.

 

Too bad you didn't get a chance to get a Waco Johnny Dean anecdote from him. It would have been fun for Best if he could have been a part of Waco Johnny's gang in Winchester 73 (until slimy Dan ran out on him, that is).

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I have loaned a few films from my library, lavenderblue. Their selection of classic films, though, is rather limited. The chances of finding a little title like Too Late for Tears is quite slim, compared to, say, The Wizard of Oz.

 

At least, that's the case in my city library system. You may have a far more classic film friendly library system where you live. If so, that's great for you.

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Tom, I feel for you.. when I lived in the NE, my local library had both Volumes of the Women of Film Noir. *Too Late for Tears* was on the dvd. 5 films were on each of the Vol 1 and Vol 2. I also got to see *The Furies* Stanwyck and Walter Huston film I wanted to see again so badly. My local library and the surrounding libraries were llike finding treasures. I would first check from my home computer, them go to the library and check out their computers. Maybe the next time you're in the mood check the libraries website and see what you can find there. Maybe Canada has a different system.

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Here's a 1947 shot of that brute Dan Duryea at home, threatening violence upon his wife and kids:

 

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Hmmmm, how comes no one seems to be taking him seriously? Maybe he was only a movie tough guy.

 

Here's another photo of Dan showing his family one of his scripts. They seem to be having a pretty good laugh over it and I don't recall Dan appearing in that many comedies.

 

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Has anyone seen this film? I don't know if the film's any good but I love this poster:

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Another Dan Duryea film that I would like to see on TCM. Any wild guesses as to whether Dan is the killer or the cop? I will be soooo disappointed if he is the cop.

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Notice the name "Anthony Curtis" at the bottom of the poster? Don't think I ever saw this one. My introduction to Howard Duff was in the 60's on tv, The Felony Squad.

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*TomJH said:*

*Here's another photo of Dan showing his family one of his scripts. They seem to be having a pretty good laugh over it and I don't recall Dan appearing in that many comedies.*

 

Maybe it's the script for THE SWINDLERS (aka WHITE TIE AND TAILS), a film that I've been trying to locate for years.

 

Here's a thought to ponder - Dan Duryea as Dagwood Bumstead.

 

Here's the NY Times review:

 

Movie Review

White Tie and Tails (1946)

THE SCREEN

By BOSLEY CROWTHER

Published: November 8, 1946

 

You might say that Universal and its current fair-haired boy, Dan Duryea, are displaying the-atrical pretensions which are slightly out of their class in "White Tie and Tails," their little cut-up which came to Loew's State yesterday. For the quality of writing and direction expedient for a comedy of this sort is more in the line of John van Druten than of the journeymen hired to do this job. And the subtlety and suavity of performance required in the principal role might better be supplied by Robert Montgomery than by Mr. Duryea, who is more adept at muggs.

 

For this is one of those trifles about a butler and a quality dame, who meet under false pretenses and fall madly, hopelessly in love. It is one of those featherweight fables in which social levels are confused and which needs the most blithe and brittle writing and playing to be made to look like much. It is one of those quasi-classy chitchats which should bristle with witty lines and which should flow from the mouths of saucy actors like champagne over plums.

 

Unfortunately, Bertram Millhauser hasn't written it quite that classily and Charles T. Barton has not directed as though he were confident that it would go. A look of professional bewilderment is apparent in the services of both. Obviously they had the feeling that they were out of their groove. And Mr. Duryea, although he moves with assurance and speaks his lines airily, has not yet got quite the oil and polish for upstairs high comedy. Ella Raines certainly doesn't show much as the quality lady he loves and William Bendix, though thoroughly competent as a tough mugg with whom they tangle, needs more help. He, like the rest of the characters whom the author has scattered about, is all dressed for action in "White Tie and Tails" but has little to do.

 

On the stage at Loew's State are Henny Youngman, Sara Ann McCabe, Stan Fisher, Ruth and Billy Ambrose and Louis Basil and his orchestra.

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If Duryea had been especially known in his roles for his persistence and unflappabilty, you might be referring to him as Steely Dan.

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James, your having mentioning 1949's Manhandled earlier in the thread reminded me that I had an old TCM recording of the film, which I watched today for the first time.

 

It's a minor crime drama, to be sure, but Dan Duryea is the best thing about it, as a slimy (and that word really does apply to his character in this film) private eye. Even though he's third billed, the story really revolves around his character (or lack of character).

 

The highlight moment of the film, for me, is a visually great film noir scene, set in a big city back alley at night, with Duryea, busy chewing on a stick of gum, as he cold bloodedly steers a car after a hapless victim running from him down that alley. There's a wonderful overhead crane shot with the lights of skyscrapers in the backdrop as the car bobs and weaves after its terrified victim. Of course, in the true tradition of film noirs, the back alley's pavement has the reflection of the fresh rained upon look for which the genre is remembered.

 

And when the scene ends, Duryea's still chewing his gum. Got to love that Dan!

 

I felt a little sorry for Dorothy Lamour in the film, though. Her career was in its doldrum years, and she looked quite drab, I thought, in a rather colourless role as a Duryea victim. But I think that fans of Dan will still enjoy watching him as a true big city snake in this Paramount feature.

 

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As noted Manhandled does have it moments but overall the director doesn't get as much as one would hope in a film with two fine noir actors in Hayden and Duryea. The book Film Noir (Silver Ward), mentions the scene with Dan killing the man with a car as one of the classic noir killing scenes (i.e. right up there with Widmark pushing the wheelchair lady off the stairs).

 

Yes, the director could of added more style to Lamour. She was still a looker but they clearly downplayed her looks. OK, she wasn't a gangster moll or showgirl. Just an everyday working gal, but the director could of advised her to put a little more juice into her role.

 

So to me this is a film where the parts where there, but they were just not used to maximum effect.

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James, I think we can probably both agree that when you have a little known film noir like Manhandled, even though the final product doesn't quite mesh, with a strong performance from Duryea and that memorable back alley scene we both mentioned, the film is well worth a visit.

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Dan Duryea has a long list of tv appearances to his credit. One of his best known has to be an episode of The Twilight Zone (one of the very first episodes of that program) where he plays the aged gunfighter who has now become the town drunk. Dan gets an opportunity to relive his glory years when a traveling salesman gives him a magical tonic that makes him feel young and lighting fast on the draw. But when he has a big showdown gunfight with a young gunfighter things don't go exactly as planned. Dan Duryea gives us an unusual, for him, sympathetic performance as the down and out man who is desperate to regain his self esteem. We are actually rooting for "Slimy Dan" in this one.

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Yes, mrroberts, that Twilight Zone in which Duryea appeared, Mr. Denton on Doomsday, was only the third episode of the series ever broadcast. As written by Rod Serling, it is an intriguing episode, well played, as you stated, by Dan.

 

Using my imagination perhaps a little too much, watching the early scenes in the episode in which Duryea is a former western fast draw, now turned town drunk, I can almost tell myself that this is what might have happened to Dan's Waco Johnny Dean character from Winchester 73 (if he hadn't met up with Jimmy Stewart first, of course).

 

When a young Martin Landau is tormenting Duryea in the episode's opening minutes, you just wish Duryea could briefly rematerialize himself as Waco Johnny in order to put this town punk in his place. Well, Serling's clever writing would have a variation on that anyway.

 

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Mr. Denton on Doomsday - Dan Duryea's sole appearance on Twilight Zone

 

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Duryea on the Twilight Zone set, with Rod Serling, director Allen Reisner and co-star Jeanne Cooper

 

Here is a link to Duryea in another TV western episode, Wagon Train Mutiny from Wagon Train, co-starring Jane Wyman:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P6-57dqj3w

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Thanks to clore's recommendation, I was finally able to catch up with a Dan Duryea film I had never seen before, Underworld Story.

 

Perfect casting for Duryea, as a hard boiled big city reporter forced to make a living at his craft in a small town, looking for a big headline. This film was released in 1950, the year before Wilder cast Kirk Douglas as Chuck Tatum in Ace in the Hole in a similar situation.

 

While the Wilder film is definitely more hard hitting and bitter, this little newspaper drama, involving murder, a coverup and hoodlums, is admirable, as well. The casting of Duryea is key to the film's success, I feel. The viewer never knows on which side, good or bad, his character will finally end up.

 

If an actor like Jimmy Stewart had been cast as a cynical reporter who really didn't care if a woman charged with murder was innocent or not, just so long as he got the headlines, the viewer would know that sooner or later he would come over to the right side.

 

With Duryea, however, that just isn't the case. Rat that he is, Duryea makes a deal with a defense lawyer to pocket half the proceeds raised by a town defense fund for a black maid charged with murder (of which the audience knows she is innocent). And you just don't know if he will remain a rat or not, Duryea's ability to playing a sleaze as well as an anti-hero working so wonderfully well here.

 

At one point Gale Storm as the small town newspaper publisher asks him if he has robbed any graves lately.

 

"No future in it," Duryea laconically replies, without batting an eye.

 

Howard Da Silva also scores well in this film in a colourful performance as a gang boss who just can't stop smiling and laughing, particularly if he has a potential victim squirming in front of him. Soon after this film's release, Da Silva would be a victim himself - of the HUAC blacklist, as well as the film's director Cy Endfield.

 

At that, this film can be seen to be speaking about McCarthyism, as it does deal with mob justice, as the town turns against the innocent accused, as well as the one newspaper standing up for her.

 

The one aspect of Underworld Story that I found a bit mystifying, particularly for a film made in 1950, was, as clore pointed out, the casting of Caucasian Mary Anderson as the black maid. The irony, of course, is that this same actress' younger brother was character actor James Anderson, known to most today as the viciously racist Bob Ewell in To Kill a Mockingbird.

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>Dan Duryea as Tommy Udo???

 

Difficult to envision anyone better than Widmark. Duryea would have been an interesting second pick, though.

 

Come to think of it, what a great pair they would have made on screen together, slimeball Duryea and psycho Widmark. We missed out on some delicious bad boy times there.

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>Just when I thought it was safe to go back outside, Slimy Dan is back in town

 

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That's right, and I brought a friend with me, too:

 

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Enjoying these posts so much on 2 of my fave's. Tom, YES what a duo those 2 would have been together in a film., that would have been genius casting, wouldn't have known who to look at first though. Love them both so much :)

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You've got good taste, lady. It must be our natural charm.

 

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But don't ever cross one of us, see?

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Thanks Tom, for the compliment and the photos and posts. You've got great taste and great film knowledge. Wouldn't ever think of crossing any of those guys ;)

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Thanks, lavenderblue. It was Fly's suggestion of Duryea being cast as Tommy Udo that triggered it, of course, because Dan would have been a good Udo, as well.

 

But Duryea and Widmark really would have been a great screen team, I suspect. Heck, they even look like the same guy, to a fair degree!

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Yes and kudo's to Fly for thinking of that. When I was a kid I always got the 2 of them confused with each other. Yes, they looked alike. That's a compliment to both of them ;)

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