lzcutter Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 TCM will turn 20 years old on April 14, 2014 and in various interviews, staffers have been talking about how the channel will celebrate this milestone. The celebration is likely to extend beyond just the day and could encompass a month or more. Thinking back over the years, of material produced for the channel from interviews to graphics, what would you like to see? FredC had a post over the weekend that got me thinking as well as a conversation I had with another poster via PM and that got me thinking about this thread. I would love to see the Women of Noir interview that FredC was asking about. It was an interview done by Scott Glenn with a number of film fatales from the classic era of noir. I would also love to see a retrospective of the graphics and how they changed over the years (a new interstitial for between films, perhaps?). And lastly, I would love to see some of the older SOTM interstitials that used to air (modern actors talking about classic stars) and some of the older documentaries that TNT and TCM produced on various classic era stars that haven't aired in many years. How about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamradio Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Why not replicate the lineup when TCM first debuted on April 14, 1994 for 48 hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopBilled Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Great idea for a thread! I'd love to see a montage of some of Bob Osborne's and Ben Mankiewicz's wraparounds-- maybe even some with bloopers, if those were saved. And I would like to see some of the wraparounds filmed for early editions of The Essentials-- like when Molly Haskell was cohost. And I would certainly enjoy a 24 hour marathon of Bob's Private Screenings series. That could even be repeated in August for a special day of Summer Under the Stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzcutter Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 TB, I was thinking of the graphics and thinking it would be cool if the staff could talk about the ideas behind the graphics, where they came from and why they chose the design. Another cool interstitial, I think, would be the various staff members talking about what TCM means to them and why they wanted to work there and make the choices (graphics, programming, original programming, web related, etc) that they do and some of the things they have to consider when making those decisions. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LsDoorMat Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I'd like to see some replays of the "One Reel Wonders" -much better than the Cinemoi style short intro TCM has now. I'd also like to see the first wrap-around Bob Osborne ever did for TCM on April 14, 1994. It would also be great to see the original "100 years at the movies" short updated to 2014. And please, crack open some of those movies you haven't shown in years - "Lights of New York", the Busby Berkeley documentary, some of the early talkie stuff that has gotten so displaced by repeats of 60's movies as of late. Wouldn't April be a great month for TCM to finally get the rights to show Ceiling Zero or Letty Lynton or The Trial of Mary Dugan again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 There was a separate website TCM set up for the 15th that had all the old bumpers and intros through their history. You could pick a year and it would give you highlights and what was going on at TCM. When they upgraded the site it was lost. It was great because you could see some of the looks of TCM. It would be nice if they would air some again anyway. I'd vote for bringing back that website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopBilled Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 >Another cool interstitial, I think, would be the various staff members talking about what TCM means to them and why they wanted to work there and make the choices (graphics, programming, original programming, web related, etc) that they do and some of the things they have to consider when making those decisions. Excellent idea. I think it would help viewers understand the process that goes into bringing TCM into our homes each day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM108 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Why not replicate the lineup when TCM first debuted on April 14, 1994 for 48 hours? That would be great to have as part of a longer celebration, though I'd also want to see them include the original introductions and followup commentary. Without that, the movies themselves may or may not be anything particularly special. It's not as if most of them aren't likely being shown any more these days. When my former GF and I used to run bootleg 16mm TV shows from the 50's on college campuses in the 70's, we'd always get a much better response when our prints included the original commercials. Including them really brought back the feeling of traveling in a time machine, and I think you'd get the same feeling seeing the Bob we all know and love, only 20 years younger and without those 20 years of experience under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzcutter Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Here was the line-up of the first 48 hours of TCM being on the air (thanks to musicalnovelty for posting this a few years back: *GONE WITH THE WIND* kicked off the channel's line up and was billed as" Complete Road Show version with Overture, Intermission and Exit Music, plus Rare Footage from the Atlanta 1964 Civil War Centennial Re-issue." 222 minutes. *SINGIN' IN THE RAIN* (1952) plus deleted musical number "You Are My Lucky Star". *100 Years at the Movies* repeated. *GONE WITH THE WIND* repeated. *SINGIN' IN THE RAIN* repeated. *IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT* (1934) *THE PETRIFIED FOREST* (1936) *THE CAT PEOPLE* (1942) Friday, April 15, 1994: *THE STORY OF LOUIS PASTEUR* (1936) *THE POSTMAN ALWAYS RINGS TWICE* (1946) *THE INFORMER* (1935) *THE PIRATE* (1948) *CITIZEN KANE* (1941) *CEILING ZERO* (1935) *THE ASPHALT JUNGLE* (1950) Greta Garbo trailers. *ANNA CHRISTIE* (1930) - English language version. *ANNA CHRISTIE* (1930) - German language version. *ANNA KARENINA* (1935) *LOVE* (1927) plus alternate ending. "MGM Parade" #30 - Greta Garbo. "MGM Parade" #31 - Greta Garbo. *THE SINGLE STANDARD* (1929) *AS YOU DESIRE ME* (1931) Hollywood themed shorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanceroten Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 We didn't get TCM on our provider until, I want to say 1997. I was still in the " B&W movies are old, I ain't watching that channel " phase. In fact, didn't watch my first movies on TCM until 1999-00. King Kong, The Birds and wait for it...North by Northwest . they could show anything from the early days and it would be new to me. I wish I had watched TCM more between 1997-2003. It didn't become a huge staple for me until around 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 That is a stunning list of "First 48 Hous of Classic Films" for TCM to air. Of course, by now, we've seen most of them many times. But they represent the "direction" in which TCM was heading back in those days, and the reason we subscribed to the channel (even though most of us already had AMC on basic cable). What I would like to do now is post a list of some of my favorite classic TCM actors that we used to see quite often on TCM just a few years ago. I suggest for the 20th Anniversary, TCM should show their films every day for one full year. Note: My Word document will automatically alphabetize names with the first name only, unless I type in the last names first, and that is too confusing for me. This is not a complete list of classic actors..... it's a list of names I could think of when I was making up the list. Abbott & Costello Adolphe Menjou Al Jolson Alan Ladd Alice White Alida Valli Ann Dvorak Ann Harding Ann Sothern Anna May Wong Anne Shirley Anny Ondra Audrey Totter Barbara Stanwyck Basil Rathbone Bebe Daniels Bela Lugosi Bessie Love Bette Davis Buster Keaton Cab Calloway Carole Lombard Cecil Kellaway Cesar Romero Charles Boyer Charles Laughton Charles Ruggles Charley Grapewin Claire Trevor Clara Bow Clark Gable Claude Rains Claudette Colbert Conrad Nagel Conrad Veidt Constance Bennett Dolores del Rio Donald Crisp Dorothy Lamour Douglas Fairbanks Jr. Edmund Lowe Edna Mae Oliver Edward Arnold Edward G. Robinson Erich von Stroheim Errol Flynn Evelyn Keyes Flora Robson Franchot Tone Frank Morgan Fred Astaire Fred MacMurray Fredric March Gary Cooper George Arliss George Raft George Sanders Geraldine Fitzgerald Gilbert Roland Ginger Rogers Greta Garbo Groucho Marx Harold Lloyd Harry Carey Hattie Mcdaniel Hedy Lamarr Helen Hayes Helen Twelvetrees Henry B. Walthall Henry Fonda Herbert Marshall Hume Cronyn Humphrey Bogart Ida Lupino Ingrid Bergman Irene Dunne Jack Holt James Cagney Jane Darwell Janet Gaynor Jean Arthur Jean Harlow Jean Hersholt Jeanette MacDonald Joan Blondell Joan Crawford Joe E. Brown John Barrymore John Carradine John Garfield John Gilbert John Qualen (Muley) Johnny Weissmuller Joseph Cotten Judy Garland Kay Francis Lana Turner Laura La Plante Laurel and Hardy Laurence Olivier Lee Tracy Leo G. Carroll Leslie Howard Lew Ayres Lewis Stone Lily Damita Lionel Atwill Loretta Young Louise Brooks Lupe Velez Mae West Mantan Moreland Marian Marsh Marie Dressler Marion Davies Marjorie Main Marlene Dietrich Mary Astor Maureen O'Sullivan Maurice Chevalier May Robson Merle Oberon Mickey Rooney Miriam Hopkins Myrna Loy Nancy Carroll Nina Mae McKinney Norma Shearer Olivia de Havilland Orson Welles Pat O'Brien Paul Lukas Paul Muni Paul Robeson Peter Lorre Priscilla Lane Ralph Bellamy Ramon Navarro Renee Adoree Ricardo Cortez Richard Barthelmess Richard Dix Robert Armstrong Robert Cummings Robert Donat Robert Montgomery Robert Taylor Robert Young Rochelle Hudson Roland Young Ronald Colman Ruth Chatterton Sabu Sally Blane Spanky MacFarland Spencer Tracy Sue Carol Sybil Jason Sylvia Sidney Thelma Todd Thomas Mitchell Tim Holt Tyrone Power Van Heflin Van Johnson Victor McLaglen Vivien Leigh W.C. Fields Wallace Beery Walter Huston Ward Bond Warner Baxter Warner Oland Warren William Will Rogers William Holden William Powell Willie Best Woody Strode ZaSu Pitts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I hope its a month long celebration and they have a lot of things planned.....Would love to see some of the interviews/specials repeated that TCM has shown in the past... I didnt get TCM in my cable channel for the first year or two, so I'm unsure what I might have missed....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopBilled Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Okay, Fred, how come you don't have Ruth Roman on that list...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonesomePolecat Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I'd love some new interviews with stars they haven't interviewed yet, like Doris Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Good luck on that one! Maybe the Olivia interview will have come about and be ready to air by then......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 >Another cool interstitial, I think, would be the various staff members talking about what TCM means to them and why they wanted to work there and make the choices (graphics, programming, original programming, web related, etc) that they do and some of the things they have to consider when making those decisions. That's a very good idea. That was a good series of interviews. I also liked Mr. Osborne's group interview with the famous grown-up child stars, and his rare interview with Betty Hutton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbeckuaf Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 These are all coolio ideas in this thread!!! It's SO cool that TCM is still with us for lo these 20 years! Looking forward to what they come up with to celebrate in style! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo2 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I love " conversion" stoies like yours, Lanceroten. I taught a film class to middle school students for several years and the pattern was always the same: resistance and antipthy towards any black and white movie at first, a general notion that once color movies were produced black and white movies were no longer made (many also thought, for some reason that " Wizard of Oz" was the first color movie), and then gradually an apprecition for all kinds of movies from silents on up. It was SO satisfying to hear the enthusiasm and excitement in film class each week over all these great classics that sadly, MOST had never seen or even heard of, and this was a rather sophisticated private school in Los Angeles! I used to think, Wow!, I wish I could have their parents in my class as well. But happily, many students became TCM enthusiasts on their own and after they graduated many on return visits would tell me about which TCM films they had enjoyed lately or which films we had seen in class they had enjoyed again on TCM and this time at home with the whole family watching Sorry - carrying on too long here - stirred up some happy memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkblue Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Ruth Roman looks like a booze-hound. Maybe it's just the pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM108 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Here was the line-up of the first 48 hours of TCM being on the air (thanks to musicalnovelty for posting this a few years back: GONE WITH THE WIND kicked off the channel's line up and was billed as" Complete Road Show version with Overture, Intermission and Exit Music, plus Rare Footage from the Atlanta 1964 Civil War Centennial Re-issue." 222 minutes. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN (1952) plus deleted musical number "You Are My Lucky Star". 100 Years at the Movies repeated. GONE WITH THE WIND repeated. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN repeated. IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT (1934) THE PETRIFIED FOREST (1936) THE CAT PEOPLE (1942) Friday, April 15, 1994: THE STORY OF LOUIS PASTEUR (1936) THE POSTMAN ALWAYS RINGS TWICE (1946) THE INFORMER (1935) THE PIRATE (1948) CITIZEN KANE (1941) CEILING ZERO (1935) THE ASPHALT JUNGLE (1950) Greta Garbo trailers. ANNA CHRISTIE (1930) - English language version. ANNA CHRISTIE (1930) - German language version. ANNA KARENINA (1935) LOVE (1927) plus alternate ending. "MGM Parade" #30 - Greta Garbo. "MGM Parade" #31 - Greta Garbo. THE SINGLE STANDARD (1929) AS YOU DESIRE ME (1931) Hollywood themed shorts. Interesting list, but with a handful of exceptions towards the end, that's a lineup that you could practically find on PBS. What would really be great for the 20th Anniversary would be if we could get 48 hours of TCM premieres, and not just a repeat of what gets shown over and over and over. Lest we forget, the idea was to introduce the TCM audience to movies they likely hadn't seen uninterrupted on TV in a long time. My proposal would honor the spirit of that mission far more than the 10,000th showing of GWTW or Singing In The Rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimperpep Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 >Ruth Roman looks like a booze-hound. Maybe it's just the pic? Ah, it's called acting. Actors are paid to project an attitude. Although, some can project negative attitude for free, n'ect-ce pas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkblue Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 > Ah, it's called acting That's a relief. Not a pic that's all that flattering, really. Looks drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzcutter Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 I thought this would be a good time to bring this thread back. We are less than 100 days away from TCM's 20th anniversary. What tributes/documentaries/promos, etc would like to see from their first 20 years? It looks like on April 14th, they do have a documentary called *20 Classic Moments*. I wonder what, besides Mickey Rooney almost belting Robert O in Rooney's *Private Screening*, might be included? Would still love to see some interstitials or a documentary with the staff talking about their jobs as well as would love to see a montage (or three) of the old promos as an interstitial. What ideas would you like to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzcutter Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 From the looks of the April schedule on April 14th this year, TCM will run the same films that they debuted with on April 14th, 1994 along with an encore performance of the Robert O's *Private Screening*. http://www.tcm.com/schedule/monthly.html?tz=est&sdate=2014-4-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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