FlyBackTransformer Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 The whole score except for *The Enterprise* should be redone. Goldsmith himself beautifully redid that track for his *Frontiers* album. Digital enhancements simply have not helped the score all that much imo. Of course the one track I really wanna hear redone is *Leaving Drydock*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 There was much about that score I didn't like, but as other composers for sci-fi movies since STAR WARS seemed to copy JOHN WILLIAMS a lot, Goldsmith's departure from that still gets a bit of my praise. Sepiatone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamradio Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I have the original soundtrack LP, very much got use to it. Title music is used in TNG. The music for "V'Ger" is odd though. The worst mistake in the movie were the uniforms. The cast *hated* them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBackTransformer Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 > I have the original soundtrack LP, very much got use to it. Title music is used in TNG. The music for "V'Ger" is odd though. > The worst mistake in the movie were the uniforms. The cast hated them. The big mistake was in visually re-imagining the whole deal. It was not necessary although some minor set changes would have been in order to suggest passage of time since the series' 3rd season. The uniform material looks satin-ish. Classic star trek is dead..as dead as James T. Kirk is under that pile of rocks on the surface of Veridian 3....courtesy of the paramount geniuses. When you kill a TV legend, paramount doesn't fool around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I'm just glad that movie didn't start a trend of women shaving their heads, ala PERSIS KEMBATTA. I mean, it looked good on( or off?) her, but too many people who SHOULDN'T get into the latest "fashion" usually are the first to gravitate towards it. Sepiatone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dabb Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 >..but too many people who SHOULDN'T get into the latest "fashion" usually are the first to gravitate towards it. This is painfully obvious with Spandex (DON'T LOOK! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxreyman Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I have posted this link before in a different thread about Star Trek The Motion Picture, but I feel it is relevant for this thread as well. The link I am providing is a beautifully recreated video done by HIKE that shows the fly around of the Enterprise originally done with Scotty and Kirk, but in this video the entire original crew is shown flying around the ship. The next scene is the famous Leaving the Drydock scene. This starts at the 6:07 mark, followed by what I consider the best rendition of the sunrise which starts at 8:09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBackTransformer Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 I don't really like any of the 1980s star trek theatrical films. They are mainly watchable for their visualcality. From the start they disregarded too much continuity with the old TV series. All they really needed to do was update some of the sets but no, they got far too creative and screwed up the whole deal. The '79 film was a mess. The 2nd film coulda been better without the genesis crap and just kept it a simple revenge story. They had Chekov realizing that they've inadvertently beamed down to Khan's planet...not withstanding the fact that the Chekov character didn't show up till the beginning of the 2nd season and "space seed" was a 1st year episode. Absolutely brilliant! But real Trekkers had asked themselves ever since just what was the point of bringing Ricardo Montalban on board to reprise Khan and yet have no direct physical confrontation between him and Kirk in the movie??? Instead all there is is a short exchange between Shatner and Montalban over the radio...but then in star trek III we get a lame almost obligatory altercation between Kirk and Kruge. (Christopher Lloyd) Then after that we're treated to Star Trek visits Sea World followed by Sybok of Arabia followed by the sixth film The Fall of the Klingon Empire. The reason the films were not more successful was they disregarded continuity far too much. A Khan revenge story shoulda been the story for the first film instead of that vger crapola. Paramount screwed the pooch from the start by taking their sweet time bringing star trek back in the first place. They knew star trek had been immensely popular since it hit syndication but they chose to pussyfoot around for too many years. Now if guys like Bob Justman coulda been involved in the first film's production we might have ended up with better then we got. But of course it is now just all spilled saurian brandy under the bridge. Thank you paramount for destroying a wonderful TV legend. The Veridian 3-bound ghost of James T. Kirk thanks you also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Uh-oh.... Sounds like somebody's been hitting the Romulan ale. Sepiatone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBackTransformer Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 > Uh-oh.... > Sounds like somebody's been hitting the Romulan ale. > Sepiatone Yes, I rambled a bit but my points are all correct. Paramount decided to put the original series cast out to pasture with the sixth film. "*But is that the end of their beneficence? Why Nooo" -Robin Hood (Errol Flynn)* They then choose to spit right in the face of the original fan base by killing off William Shatner as James T. Kirk (whom every legitimate trekker knows was the guts of the original series) on screen in the infamous Star Trek Generations. And today Paramount wanders what they have been doing wrong with the star trek franchise??? How about **** on the TV generation that kept the thing goin' after NBC's 1969 cancellation. Paramount wants the older fans back? Give us Bill Shatner one more time as Kirk in some format (cgi or audio) and we might consider it. Until then paramount can stick a thrall's 3-hooked grappling pole where the trinary sun don't shine. vintage Shatner as Kirk. Lets see Chris Pine do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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