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DRUMS ALONG THE MOHAWK... true story


FredCDobbs
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Here is the real Fort Herkimer Church, which was the setting of the old fort and church in DRUMS ALONG THE MOHAWK, which was based on a novel that was based on a true story. In New York State, near the Mohawk River.

 

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Here is information about the fort:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Herkimer

 

Here's info about the German Flats area of New York state, which is mentioned in the movie:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Flatts,_New_York

 

Attack on German Flatts, click on the 1778 attack (the earlier attack was by the Indians and French against the English):

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_German_Flatts_(1778)

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Fred, thanks for sharing those interesting pics and links. I did not see DRUMS ALONG THE MOHAWK last night, but it is a favorite of mine. I think it is Ford's best of his 1939 films (all classics imho), and one of his best overall.

 

Btw,.Linda Darnell can be made out in some of the scenes. At 15, she was assigned to the supporting role, eventually done by Dorris Bowden, in this film, and went on location to Utah. After the company returned to film at the studio, Zanuck decided he wanted something more important than a featured role, due to the promise of her film debut, HOTEL FOR WOMEN, which had not yet been released. He yanked her out of this movie, and had her costar with Tyrone Power in DAYTIME WIFE. Bowden was given her role. However, Zanuck was no going to redo the scenes done on location,.so all those where Linda is recognizable were cut out and not replaced. Those where she is in the background and not recognizable were.left in.

 

Edited by: Arturo on Jan 27, 2014 11:52 AM

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Thanks for posting that Fred. I've lived my whole life in upstate New York and have gone through the Mohawk Valley hundreds of times. The New York State Thruway (I-90), west from Albany, goes right through it. Lots of history in this part of the state. Too bad they didn't actually film the movie here instead of in Utah.

 

Two other Henry Fonda films, CHAD HANNA, and THE FARMER TAKES A WIFE also take place in the same general vicinity. All three were based on novels written by Walter D. Edmonds who wrote extensively about pioneer life in the Mohawk Valley.

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Sometimes I forget that that part of the country, at the time of the movie's era, was known (to the English, Dutch, and German immigrants) as "the wild West" back in those days. :P

 

And the area I live in today was New-Spain.

 

In-between the two territories was New-France.

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So true, until the Erie Canal opened around 1825, most of New York State was nothing more than a vast wilderness with an occasional small village surrounded by farms.Today one can drive from the Hudson River at Albany to the Great Lakes in about five hours, back then it took several days on a canal boat and that was considered amazingly swift.

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I love the beauty of New York State. I went up to a cousin's wedding in Cooperstown last year, on a glorious Labor Day weekend. We took a ride on Lake Glimmerglass the day after the wedding. Beautiful part of the world.

 

And *Drums Along the Mohawk* -- one of the great films. And, in a career filled with great performances, I think this film offers Edna May Oliver's finest.

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I agree about Edna May Oliver's performance. I was kinda hoping than Fred.would've found the picture of the bed she refused to leave, the original one (assuming that that part of the story was true)...lol.

 

Edited by: Arturo on Jan 28, 2014 10:18 PM

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Arturo, would you settle for a shot of Edna May and part of her bed?

 

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Is this the only time that she appeared in Technicolor?

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>Swithin said: "I love the beauty of New York State....."

 

 

 

 

Most people who come here say the same thing and are often surprised at the beauty of the rolling hills,gorgeous lakes, farmlands and mountains. Until they come here, a lot of them expect the whole state to be like New York City and that we all ride the subway to get around.

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Yeah mark, very true. I too have been to your part of the country in my many travels, and it IS as you said very beautiful there. However I gotta ask:

 

How's that whole "Lake-Effects" thing workin' for ya right about now, HUH?!

 

(...Dargo signing off now from Sedona Arizona) LOL

 

;)

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>dargo2 said: "How's that whole "Lake-Effects" thing workin' for ya right about now, HUH?!

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, it really depends where you live. I'm in Syracuse which is southeast of Lake Ontario and the worst of lake effect usually misses us. Our average annual snowfall is about 120", but that's mostly a few inches at a time over the course of the whole winter and is easy to deal with. I know that sounds a lot, but around here everybody is prepared for it. Even when we do take a big hit, our city does a great job of keeping the streets open and the airport rarely closes.

 

The story is a bit different if you go about 40 miles north of here in what's called the "snow belt" where in just in the last couple of days they had over three feet and by the end of winter will likely have gotten well over 200". Add to that the frigid temperatures that went down to as low as -23 and it was brutal for them.

 

We like to rib our downstate friends and say that when we get a foot of snow it's nothing more than a "minor inconvenience" but if they get four inches they call out the National Guard. Still, we understand how devastating it can be in parts of the country that never usually see snow. I was amazed at what was happening in Atlanta.

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>On Thursday, 1/30, @ 9:30 am eastern, Fox Movie Channel will air CHAD HANNA (1940),.from Edmonds' novel "Red Wheels Rolling", a colorful leisurely tale starring Henry Fonda, Linda Darnell,.and Dorothy Lamour.

 

Pioneer New York State in 1845:

 

*CHAD HANNA* (1940)

 

*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGEwyKLeOvI&list=PL51013613A1EE8BD9*

 

Henry Fonda, Dorothy Lamour, Linda Darnell (at age 17), Guy Kibbee, Jane Darwell, John Carradine.

 

Just think of it as a story of Young Abe Lincoln, if he had run off and joined a circus, instead of getting his law degree. :P

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WHOA! 120 FEET of snow a year, huh?!

 

Well mark, as I can say here is that thing that Brit military officer says during the burial service of the character Sam Jaffe plays after he bites the dust in valiant service to the British Raj:

 

"You're a better man than I, Gunga Din!" LOL

 

;)

 

Though, regarding THIS part of your reply:

 

> We like to rib our downstate friends and say that when we get a foot of snow it's nothing more than a "minor inconvenience" but if they get four inches they call out the National Guard.

 

I DO have kind of an idea of what you mean here. You see, having until fairly recently lived my whole life in the L.A. area, it HAS become the joke that as soon as the first little raindrop falls in The City of Angels, the lead story on all the 6 o'clock news broadcasts are blared over the airwaves as: "STORM WATCH, 2014 !!!", or whatever year it happens to be, of course.

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