BeverlyBuzzby Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 First time I've ever seen it, a more atrocious movie I cannot fathom. Poor Joan Crawford, she's one of my very favorite actresses, reduced to this! I have no point, I just wanted to whine in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamradio Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Same thing happened to Elizabeth Taylor. This is when Hollywood telling one, you're all washed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopBilled Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I liked this film (and my standards are high). I think for what it is, or what it attempts to do, it does it very well-- which is to present simple yet thoughtful entertainment. Crawford lends credibility to the entire affair. In the hands of a lesser actress, it could have been utterly dreadful. What I liked most about it is that there are horror elements, but that the caveman isn't made to be too much of a monster-- he has a gentler, less primitive side that Crawford's character is able to appeal to and reach. Of course, everything goes off-kilter and he runs amok until right before the final fadeout, when she is able to talk him down and hand over the child he had kidnapped. But TROG is not as bad a film as it's been made out to be-- and in many places, I have seen it receive two out of four stars. CALLING PHILO VANCE, which also aired recently on TCM, usually gets one star. Final analysis: glad I took the time to watch it. If anything, it gave me a deeper appreciation of Joan Crawford as an actress, doing the best she could, given the material and the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr6666 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 But couldn't they even try to get the head color match the rest of the guy's body?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie56 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 If you happen to be in London on Sunday, September 20th you may want to go to the BFI Southbank's screening of Trog (1970). It is being introduced by none other than director, John Waters. Looks like a lot of fun. Waters is getting a BFI retrospective. The BFI guide describes Trog as .."one of the most ludicrous, touching, mind-boggling star vehicles ever. Joan Crawford, desperate for a job, teams up with director Freddie Francis (!) and an actor in a pitiful monkey mask for a sci-fi howler like no other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnm001 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I saw it when it was in theaters, but not since. The thing about Joan Crawford is, she always gives it everything she's got. No matter what the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveGirl Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Love Trog, but no offense to Joan. I mean doesn't any movie benefit from Joan being in it? She raises camp to a whole new level. Besides latent prehistoric species on the loose is a Hollywood maxim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NipkowDisc Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I liked this film (and my standards are high). I think for what it is, or what it attempts to do, it does it very well-- which is to present simple yet thoughtful entertainment. Crawford lends credibility to the entire affair. In the hands of a lesser actress, it could have been utterly dreadful. What I liked most about it is that there are horror elements, but that the caveman isn't made to be too much of a monster-- he has a gentler, less primitive side that Crawford's character is able to appeal to and reach. Of course, everything goes off-kilter and he runs amok until right before the final fadeout, when she is able to talk him down and hand over the child he had kidnapped. But TROG is not as bad a film as it's been made out to be-- and in many places, I have seen it receive two out of four stars. CALLING PHILO VANCE, which also aired recently on TCM, usually gets one star. Final analysis: glad I took the time to watch it. If anything, it gave me a deeper appreciation of Joan Crawford as an actress, doing the best she could, given the material and the circumstances. I thought Trog a fairly good horror film since first seeing it on the CBS Late Movie 40 years ago and John Scott's music is quite good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamradio Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Does anyone know if Joan Crawford is in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NipkowDisc Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Same thing happened to Elizabeth Taylor. This is when Hollywood telling one, you're all washed up. Wilma's hot but john goodman is more stupid as fred flintstone than fred flintstone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenIsHere Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I saw it when it was in theaters, but not since. The thing about Joan Crawford is, she always gives it everything she's got. No matter what the movie. Yes, she always commits herself and never mocks the material as some actors would have dione. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yes, she always commits herself and never mocks the material as some actors would have dione. What's to commit to in TROG???? LMREO.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenIsHere Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 What's to commit to in TROG???? She commits to the truth of the story. Most actors would not have played that role as a real person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 She commits to the truth of the story. Most actors would not have played that role as a real person. Most actors of her rank wouldnt have accepted the part in the first place. I guess vodka helped. Sorry, but for me Trog makes Berserk! look like Citizen Kane.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenIsHere Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Most actors of her rank wouldnt have accepted the part in the first place. I guess vodka helped. Sorry, but for me Trog makes Berserk! look like Citizen Kane.... Awwww, don't be mean to Trog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Awwww, don't be mean to Trog. LOL. Poor Joan. Not a great send off (moviewise).......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenIsHere Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Poor Joan. Not a great send off (moviewise).......... Well, she really needed the money so she took the job. I give her credit for not just phoning in the performance and actually making lines like following work: Conceivably, Trog was frozen solid during the long, long glacial age. A state similar to cryogenic suspension. Then as the underground streams and currents brought more and more warmth to the frozen atmosphere, his body thawed out. We now know that human s-p-e-r-m, red blood cells, bone marrow cells, even skin can be brought back to life after freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Well, she really needed the money so she took the job. I give her credit for not just phoning in the performance and actually making lines like following work: Conceivably, Trog was frozen solid during the long, long glacial age. A state similar to cryogenic suspension. Then as the underground streams and currents brought more and more warmth to the frozen atmosphere, his body thawed out. We now know that human s-p-e-r-m, red blood cells, bone marrow cells, even skin can be brought back to life after freezing. Yeah, keeping a straight face mouthing that swill had to be hard. (LOL)..........Hopefully the pay was good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenIsHere Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gorman Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Joan Crawford wasn't alone in having her last film not be a good one. That said, I don't think TROG is all that bad. I found it watchable. I've seen far worse movies than TROG. Bette Davis' last film was that 1989 Larry Cohen flick WICKED STEPMOTHER Peter Sellers' was the dreadful THE FIENDISH PLOT OF DR. FU MANCHU which has no comedic energy whatsoever. Miriam Hopkins' last film was the not-badly-made-but-irritating 1969 horror movie 'SAVAGE INTRUDER' which featured John Garfield's son in the lead role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenIsHere Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Joan Crawford wasn't alone in having her last film not be a good one. That said, I don't think TROG is all that bad. I found it watchable. I've seen far worse movies than TROG. Bette Davis' last film was that 1989 Larry Cohen flick WICKED STEPMOTHER Peter Sellers' was the dreadful THE FIENDISH PLOT OF DR. FU MANCHU which has no comedic energy whatsoever. Miriam Hopkins' last film was the not-badly-made-but-irritating 1969 horror movie 'SAVAGE INTRUDER' which featured John Garfield's son in the lead role. I thought Bette Davis's last movie was WHALES OF AUGUST. I remember reading (maybe on this board) that she dropped out of a later movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I thought Bette Davis's last movie was WHALES OF AUGUST. I remember reading (maybe on this board) that she dropped out of a later movie. Yes, that was the movie she dropped out of, they sort of rewrote her out of the story. So technically one could say it wasnt really her last film as she didnt complete it.......(Wicked Stepmother) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gorman Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 'WHALES OF AUGUST, The' (1987) was Bette Davis' last completed film; 'WICKED STEPMOTHER' (1989) was her last film appearance. Technically speaking, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenIsHere Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 'WHALES OF AUGUST, The' (1987) was Bette Davis' last completed film; 'WICKED STEPMOTHER' (1989) was her last film appearance. Technically speaking, of course. So there is some footage with Bette Davis in WICKED STEPMOTHER? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 So there is some footage with Bette Davis in WICKED STEPMOTHER? I assume there I at the start before she was turned into a cat and the focus moved to her daughter in the film. Yea, Bette was well Bette but could she get star billing and not even be in a film? (I guess they couldn't give the cat star billing because it wasn't in her contract!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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