Sepiatone Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I watched the Frederic March version last night. In all, and expecting much flame, I still prefer SPENCER TRACY'S version. In his, Tracy drinks the formula, and turns into someone, while still hideous, looks more or less human. In March's, HE drinks the formula, and turns into BENICIO del TORO! Well, just kidding, but March's Hyde looks unhuman. Too much so for my taste. But I will not disagree that it was a gripping performance. And Miriam Hopkins was much better in her role than Ingrid Bergman. But March's neandrethal make up job with the oversized dentures was a bit of a turn off. Just MHO. Sepiatone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Kimble Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I much prefer the March version, although I agree with you that they went overboard on the Hyde makeup As for the Tracy, I yield to Somerset Maugham, who while visiting the set and watching Tracy's performance, asked in a voice loud enough for all to hear: "Which one is he playing now?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joefilmone Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 March'es Hyde is clearly revealing the beast within and a real contrast with the urbane good Jeckyll. In the Tracy version they went the other way with barely any make up so the characters in the movie are either dumb or blind they can't tell it's just Jeckyl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM108 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I prefer the March version to Tracy's, but has anyone seen the 1920 silent version with John Barrymore? I recorded it about three years ago but haven't yet gotten around to watching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJH Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 To my eyes the most chilling Mr. Hyde performance, because it was so credible, was that of Jack Palance in The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Palance played Hyde like a man about town roue (who just happened to carry a long knife sheathed in his cane). A glow came into his eyes of sadistic delight when he was about to slit someone's nose up the middle with that knife, followed by a whispery laugh. He did not look like March's neanderthal man (an otherwise enjoyable theatrical turn, I admit) as he entered a tavern but, instead, as someone who belonged in the night life scene. 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FredCDobbs Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 In the opening scene, in the "mirror" shot, that is NOT a mirror. That is Frederic March in another room, looking through a picture frame at the camera lens. There is not 1 candlestick and its reflection. There are 2 candlesticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrroberts Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I find both films fascinating and of course you have two of the very best actors ever in the lead roles. Even though the films are only a decade apart you can see how films had progressed in that short time period. Tracy does a great job in playing "Hyde" with only minimal make up, relying on his own facial expressions. I assume those decisions about make up, and how extreme to use it for the character, was a director decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisSteele Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Yeah, if Hyde had enough money he could keep a dentist in comfort for a number of years fixing those snaggle teeth. He does look like he just escaped from a natural history museum Notice how he climbs things and gambols around like an ape. We get it. It's hard to believe that Ivy would want anything to do with him. I'm sure we see more of Miriam Hopkins than we would have seen three or four years later. I haven't seen the later Tracy version in a while, but March does bring a certain brute simplicity to Hyde that is more terrifying to me than Tracy's take. For the most part it's a pretty effective picture, even if we've seen similar transformations in monster movies through the years. I noticed that all the actors pronounced the name Gee-kell. I always thought it was Jeck-kell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrroberts Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Sepiatone, about the Hyde character's make up; I just dug out my old "Classics Illustrated" issue of "Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde" and the Hyde character as drawn looks quite a bit like Fredric March's character. I wonder if that fits in with the original novel's description of Hyde, that he be a hideously disfigured man whose appearance matches his behavior? The Classics Illustrated series "comics" were usually faithful to the books. Maybe the comic illustrators were influenced by the March film version of Hyde? Anyone out there who can reference the original Stevenson book on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo2 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 >I just dug out my old "Classics Illustrated" issue of "Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde" and the Hyde character as drawn looks quite a bit like Fredric March's character. I wonder if that fits in with the original novel's description of Hyde, that he be a hideously disfigured man whose appearance matches his behavior? HEY now, Mr.R! I'll have you known that by SOME reports the Neanderthals were a VERY hospitable people...well, EXCEPT of course for some of the Neanderthals that would eventually migrate to what would later become Philadelphia. Yep, word is THEY could often be as ornery as Mr. Hyde ever was! (...IN FACT, isn't there a passage in the original Robert Louis Stevenson text of this story where Mr. Hyde actually boos Santa Claus TOO???...though we MIGHT have to get a ruling on this by our friend finance!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 > about the Hyde character's make up; I just dug out my old "Classics Illustrated" issue of "Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde" and the Hyde character as drawn looks quite a bit like Fredric March's character. I think the "Classics Illustrated" version may have been influenced by March's characterization. Several other cartoon versions of that character were. Sorry to say, but I've never read the book. For all I know, the March version MAY have been more true than Tracy's. But I also know that literary descriptions of characters are percieved differently in people's minds from person to person. Sepiatone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geminigirl Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I agree 100%, Tom! He scared the h*ll out of me........................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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