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Boycotting Woody Allen Films??

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Woody and Mel don't cut it? SACRILEDGE!!!!

 

That's what will make this baby funny - the fact that no audience can take these two guys seriously in high heels and high voices but no one else in the film seems to notice it.

 

Wilder was going for credibility when he did his casting. But this film will be pure spoof, so the same kind of credibility is not needed - at least to the same degree. That's what will help to define this baby as one of the great comedies of the new century!

 

I can just see the publicity now - "WOODY AND MEL AS YOU'VE NEVER SEEN THEM BEFORE (EXCEPT IN A FEW VERY WEIRD DREAMS)!"

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That's a good title, too, James.

 

Now you're thinking. Maybe you can make a contribution to the Woody-Mel screenplay yourself. Your thinking is obviously a bit deviant. I like it!

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>Who would play the Tony Curtis part? Curtis was a very good looking man. To me that part calls for a good looking man. A man good looking enough to land a gal like Monroe, if he wasn't in disguise.

 

Hey James, ever notice that while Curtis is playing Josephine, he looks and sounds a lot like Eve Arden?

 

>Woody or Mel don't cut it in this regard.

 

Well, yeah, I suppose so. But maybe there IS something to that old thought that women ARE actually attracted to men with a great sense of humor. I mean while Woody and Mel certainly aren't good looking, they sure have enticed more than their fair share of lovelies into their lives, right?!

 

(...particularly one very attractive lady known for a famous camera shot done between her legs and with a young man saying to her, "Mrs. Robinson, you're trying to seduce me...aren't you?!")

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>I mean while Woody and Mel certainly aren't good looking

 

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Not good looking! NOT good looking?

 

Believe me, this is good looking. Oy vey, Gable should have had it as good as this, ya ****.

 

With Woody you may have a point. Extra makeup might do the trick. Along with about a year's worth of plastic surgery.

 

Hey, I just thought of someone else who would have been great in drag with me:

 

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Nah, maybe we better not go there.

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>With Woody you may have a point. Extra makeup might do the trick. Along with about a year's worth of plastic surgery.

 

Yeah...well...maybe. Well, as long as he doesn't use the same plastic surgeon as Kim Novak used!!!

 

(...wait...is it okay to say that around here now???)

 

LOL

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And btw, Tom...WAIT!

 

>Hey, I just thought of someone else who would have been great in drag with me:

 

Are YOU now offering to play one of those two Chicago musicians on the run TOO???

 

(...why...I didn't know you were an actor!!!) ;)

 

LOL

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Sure I'm an actor. And just bad enough to make everyone else around me look good, too. That's why they love appearing with me. :)

 

Mel and me, we could have made beautiful on screen drag music together.

There I go, cutting Woody out of the movie, not to mention his own thread here. I am bad.

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Well, in regard to comparisons and YOU being "bad"...MY money's on the idea that there's probably a whole lot MORE people around here who if asked would say you are usually nowhere NEAR as being as "bad" and I AM!!!

 

(...especially NOW and after what I just said down there about Kim Novak, and if we asked those people around here who feel compelled to defend her at all costs!!!)

 

LOL

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Okay...and now back to Woody...

 

(...just thought I'd make it a little less "trying" for those folks around here who somehow feel it's nearly impossible to redirect a thread back on-topic) ;)

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Dargo, for posters to start retreading what was said on the Novak thread would be far more of a drag than anything that Woody and Mel would do in their Some Like It Hot remake. ;)

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>Who would play the Tony Curtis part? Curtis was a very good looking man. To me that part calls for a good looking man. A man good looking enough to land a gal like Monroe, if he wasn't in disguise.

 

How about George Clooney? He's certainly at least as good-looking as Tony Curtis was, and knowing what we do about George, he'd probably relish the role. I understand he has a pretty good sense of humour.

 

It might be hard to imagine Clooney in drag, but then, I bet the average movie-goer in the 50s, if asked, would have said they couldn't imagine Tony Curtis in drag either (until of course, they saw SLIH.)

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>...'cause I had NO idea on how to bring this thing back on-topic myself!!!

 

'S'easy. You just do this:

 

Perhaps more than any other American director living today, Woody Allen has fully utilized the medium of film as a vehicle for his highly imaginative ideas. Allen's is a rich and varied imagination, and he does not hesitate to bring his often outrageous and even surrealist ideas into play in many of his films.

 

I would go so far as to say that Woody Allen brings the concept of "magic" into his movies, in a very specific way.

 

Just a few examples: The segment he contributes to 1989's *New York Stories*, in which his character's mother participates in a stage magician's "disappearing trick". She disappears all right, and ends up floating over the skies of New York, a giant scolding Jewish mother.

I actually forget how the Woody character resolves this, but it doesn't matter.

 

*Alice* (1990) This is not one of my favourite Woody Allen movies, but I give him full credit for the unusual ideas he introduces into what is otherwise another somewhat dreary failed marriage story. Alice, a wealthy but discontented and vaguely unhappy housewife, goes to a Chinese doctor for advice. The doctor listens to her, and then proceeds to give her a different "prescription" every time she sees him. Every concoction she takes from him imbues her with some kind of special magical ability. She changes personality, (aggressively sexy rather than shy), she becomes invisible, she meets with the ghost of her long-ago now dead lover, she takes a potion that attracts all the men around her to her...

These events are overtly magical, they're not "in her mind" or anything like that. Woody Allen is just saying, "what if there was an herbal potion to _" (fill in any of the above.)

 

*The Purple Rose of Cairo* (1985)

I almost jumped out of my seat with delight when I first saw this. I love magic, the idea of magical things happening (I read a lot of those kinds of books when I was a kid, and it stayed with me), and the sheer audacity of Woody's idea hit me as deliciously original and imaginative.

 

What if a lonely romantic person loved the movie they were watching so much that they somehow conjured one of the movie's characters off the screen and into real life?

It just strikes me as a wonderful idea, and one that had never been explored before.

 

There are many others, but I'll stop with *Purple Rose*, because it's the best example of what I'm talking about. Oh, wait, I have to mention *Zelig* too.

 

I cannot offhand think of any other director (at least, English -speaking director who's still alive) who does this kind of thing. And I think Allen deserves a lot of admiration and credit for using his almost dream-like ideas in his movies.

 

Edited by: misswonderly on Mar 30, 2014 11:15 AM

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I agree that Clooney would be a great choice to play the Tony Curtis role. His sense of humor and comic timing would work well.

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>The Purple Rose of Cairo (1985)...It just strikes me as a wonderful idea, and one that had never been explored before.

 

Well, other than in 1924 and when Buster Keaton(no relation to Diane, of course) explored it with his "Sherlock Jr.", anyway. ;)

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Ohmygawd, Dargo...I am so embarrassed. Of course, the incredible comedic genius of old Stoneface. How could I have forgotten?

 

Still, other than Keaton and Woody Allen, this idea has not been explored a whole lot. (I think?)

 

I just saw that "Word of Mouth" short about Buster Keaton this morning. It really makes you appreciate how funny and inventive he was. I laughed a few times, just watching some of the bits in the short.

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For all those here who are not boycotting Woody Allen films, you can catch Woody's 1973 film *Sleeper* tomorrow night at 9:45PM EST on TCM.

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Yes, it is. It took me years to figure out why this line always got a small, specialized chuckle whenever I saw *SLEEPER* in front of an audience.

 

Edited by: phroso on Mar 31, 2014 8:52 PM

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It is a fairly parochial reference. People in the NYC area at the time

would likely have gotten it, as Shanker was often in the news, but

wasn't a well-known figure nationally. And the idea of him having an

atomic bomb is pretty funny. Just what an already tough negotiator needs.

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The Shanker reference was understood at the time by anyone who hadn't been asleep a few years earlier. Shanker led a 1968 teachers' strike in New York City that was in the national news for many weeks and months because of its racial angle, and he was an extremely polarizing figure. When Sleeper came out five years later, Shanker's name was still pretty recognizable not just to New Yorkers, but to most sentient people over the age of about 25. It would have been like a reference to DC Mayor Marion Barry in a movie made five years after his 1990 arrest for crack possession. That wasn't just a local story, either.

 

And the line was the best thing in the entire movie, especially now that it's like a two stage time capsule.

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There's no way to gauge it now, so this is just my personal

opinion. While people in the northeast and maybe newshounds

likely knew who Shanker was, I really don't think he was that

well known nationally. Yes, a NYC teachers' strike is newsworthy,

but I don't think it's in the same class as something like Marion

Barry's drug bust. So I think there were lots of people who

wondered who Albert Shanker was back in 1973.

 

It was one of the best lines in Sleeper. There were some others

too, but as a whole, it doesn't hold up that well to me.

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It is a fairly parochial reference.

 

And was labeled as such by James Monaco in his book American Film Now, published only 5 years after Sleeper's release. It sort of equivalent (for Americans) to all those Monty Python references to English politicians and TV stars (they must've really hated one Reginald Maudling; he gets mentioned at least half a dozen times on the TV show, sometimes in totally non-sequitur situations).

 

IMHO the Shanker **** is far from the best moment in Sleeper, which holds up pretty well aside from the topical jokes and Diane Keaton's usual annoying presence.

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