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Let's not overthink and complicate something so simple.

 

"Views" simply means the number of times board members took a look at a particular thread.  

 

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I am sure there are threads where ideas are over-thought and over-complicated. What I want to add/correct to your above statement, is that I believe thread views are also counted when guests open the threads (so it would not just be board members). Also, we do have to mention that when a thread is opened, we have no way of knowing whether the reader is looking at the newest posts or older posts/pages earlier in the thread.

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Actually Sepia, if one would compute the "view-to-reply rate" of ANY thread located within this website(and probably ALL website forums), a "10%" rate would AND could be considered one hell of a good percentage, ya know.

 

In fact, I don't think ANY thread started by ANYONE ever "achieves" such a "high rate", and especially after a thread has run its course and has lost the interest of the people inclined to post replies within it.

 

(...and be it for reasons of a possible "sidetracking" from its original premise OR NOT!!!!!) 

Thread views mean nothing.

 

To believe otherwise is proof of being a legend in one's own mind. :D

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Updates:


 


Eight threads debut on the list (meaning they have over 1,000 views) and are marked in bold. One of the threads is an old thread I created nearly two years ago when Greer Garson was SOTM. I have not added any new content to it, and that tells me she is very popular among TCM viewers/message board users. 


 


Several threads gained a significant number of views since I last did this in October. The Lauren Bacall thread was hot; the Me-TV thread was red hot (no surprise); the SONG OF THE SOUTH thread gained almost a thousand views after it was locked; the Mother Dolores Hart thread continued to do well though no new content was added; Ruth Roman's thread was hot; and the Kay Francis appreciation thread zoomed to over 2,200. The Kay Francis thread's popularity is remarkable, because her films have not been featured much recently on TCM, and also there was a rival thread about her on the boards at the same time as mine. That tells me people can't get enough Kay Francis.


 


I have almost 50 threads over the 1,000 view mark since the upgrade in April. Several are carry overs from before the upgrade and had their original totals erased when the data transferred over from the old system. That means if they are on this list, they started over and really have had many more total views. Take a look:


 


TopBilled's threads created in General Discussions:


 


News: ME-TV Cutting in on TCM's Audience  36,755


Does anyone find SONG OF THE SOUTH (1946) offensive...? 10,659


John Wayne as SOTM April 2014 7,522 (plus unknown number of views before upgrade)


It happened on this day 8,209


The Overplayed Hall of Fame 6,196


Summer Under the Stars Lineup August 2014 5,806


Classic Film Pairings 5,511 (plus unknown number of views before upgrade)


Half-way through this year's SUTS-- favorite days so far...? 3,876


September 2014 Schedule 3,867


Guest Programmer Dolores Hart tonight on TCM 3,699


Why are some threads locked, words prohibited? 3,663


Why do movie stars commit suicide? 3,237


Hollywood's depictions of death on screen 3,097


So how many films have y-o-u recorded from TCM...? 3,082


What do thread views mean? 3,057


24 Hour Tribute for Lauren Bacall on TCM 3,026


Classic yes but is it essential? 2,973


(Not so) hidden subtext in THE STRANGER (1946)...? 2,963


News: Director blasts Leonard Matlin for inaccurate review 2,737


Any ideas who will be January's SOTM? 2,689


MLK Day = Sidney Poitier Day 2,872 (plus unknown number of views before the upgrade)


News: Kim Novak blasts bullies 2,338


Who has the best voice...? 2,318


Kay Francis Appreciation thread 2,279


Who was ______? 2,038


Dr. Goldman's comments so far... 1,955


Ruth Roman 1,930 (plus unknown number of views before upgrade)


TV Work by film stars you must see...! 1,857


Any ideas who will be November's SOTM? 1,731


Any ideas who will be October's SOTM? 1,636


Who is your favorite British actress? 1,595


Any ideas who will be September's SOTM? 1,551


In character with Eugene Pallette 1,512


My love is SHANE-less 1,496


The one where the remake outshines the original 1,393


I think KLUTE could have been better 1,382


I'm famous and I'm from Wisconsin 1,381


Lee Grant tonight on TCM 1,372


Greer Garson as SOTM March 2013 1,287 (plus unknown number of views before upgrade)


Any ideas who will be December's SOTM? 1,254


Movie Swan Song 1,234


Nutty Jerry Lewis tonight on TCM 1,216


News: Some viewers feel hosts do not watch all the movies they introduce 1,197


News: Dame May Whitty more popular than Rock Hudson! 1,157


The one where the men have more chemistry than the men and women 1,136


The one where a star performs in blackface 1,127


On Broadway, but not in the movie 1,118 (plus unknown number of views before upgrade)


In character with S.Z. Sakall 1,070


Message board experience poll 1,009


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then should we also consider MOST LIKED CONTENT?

 

http://forums.tcm.com/index.php?/best-content/

 

Wow! Well all I can say after venturing to your link here mr6, is that I was sure glad to find none of MY posts were liked so much by the assembled masses as to be shown there!

 

'Cause I'm thinkin' havin' one of MINE there would of course mean that I MIGHT have to probably consider changing that tagline I've got above Groucho's face up there and which I think best "personifies" me, FROM "An Acquired Taste" and TO somethin' more along the lines of "Mr. Popularity!" ;)

 

And THAT sure ain't never gonna happen, NOR do I think I ever WANT it to!

 

(...I mean I DO have "an image" to uphold around here, ya know!) LOL

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Does the board tally up another "view" when the thread creator looks at it? Not trying to be facetious, I'm genuinely asking.

 

I've opened up many threads to see what the thread was about and quickly closed it when I realized I found the thread uninteresting and/or didn't want to participate in the conversation that was going on. I don't think my "view" would indicate quality.

 

I agree that replies are what count. Otherwise, with little or no replies, the thread would disappear into the abyss of other played out threads. If a thread continues to generate quality discussion and attract new contributors and continues to stay on the front page of active threads, then that thread would be a success. If the thread originator keeps adding replies to their thread, but nobody else does, it's not successful.

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I believe this phenomenon is akin to people rubbernecking when they come upon an accident.

This really says it all and it was on the first page. If my cat throws up on the rug, everyone in the living room is going to want to "view" the hairball. Viewing does not equal approval/affirmation. When wildfires start on the board more people check in more regularly. Fanning the flames does the rest.

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This really says it all and it was on the first page. If my cat throws up on the rug, everyone in the living room is going to want to "view" the hairball. Viewing does not equal approval/affirmation. When wildfires start on the board more people check in more regularly. Fanning the flames does the rest.

 If my cat throws up on the rug, everyone in the living room is going to want to "view" the hairball          

 

You said it. Described it perfectly.

 

Consider the source, and then move on, there's nothing to see there, when the source is revealed.

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Does the board tally up another "view" when the thread creator looks at it? Not trying to be facetious, I'm genuinely asking.

 

I've opened up many threads to see what the thread was about and quickly closed it when I realized I found the thread uninteresting and/or didn't want to participate in the conversation that was going on. I don't think my "view" would indicate quality.

 

I agree that replies are what count. Otherwise, with little or no replies, the thread would disappear into the abyss of other played out threads. If a thread continues to generate quality discussion and attract new contributors and continues to stay on the front page of active threads, then that thread would be a success. If the thread originator keeps adding replies to their thread, but nobody else does, it's not successful.

Hi speedracer,

 

I hope that your day is truly an enjoyable one. I think that if someone keeps opening a thread, when they already know what the contents will be, then they are in a way endorsing it and keeping the thread hot. It doesn't matter what their motives are, they do become a party to its visibility and ultimately its success. 

 

There are many threads where the originator does keep adding replies, because they are providing on-going information. We have someone who does that with the Fox and Linda Darnell threads. That does not mean the thread is unsuccessful-- it means that data collection and dissemination continues to occur and others are able to comment on the meaning of it.

 

Okay, I need to go get the ingredients for Lana Turner's scampi. It takes me an hour to get ready before I go out the front door. There's nothing like having people see you look your best in the seafood section of the local market. 

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In other forums I'm a member of, I usually notice a HUGE difference in the "View/reply" ratio.  For example, one thread might have, listed, 200 views, but only 20 replies. ( remember, the figures ARE hypothetical).

 

All THIS means is that although 200 people took a LOOK at the thread, only 20 figured they had something worthwhile to ADD, so THEY replied.

 

Unlike HERE, where often people with NOTHING worthwhile to add DO reply! ( Hey----I just couldn't resist!)

 

Anyway, in another forum, I put it to the test----

 

I noted the "view" number before clicking into one thread.  AFTER I closed out of it, the "view" number increased by ONE.  So, I WENT IN AGAIN, and got the same result.

 

 

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In other forums I'm a member of, I usually notice a HUGE difference in the "View/reply" ratio.  For example, one thread might have, listed, 200 views, but only 20 replies. ( remember, the figures ARE hypothetical).

 

All THIS means is that although 200 people took a LOOK at the thread, only 20 figured they had something worthwhile to ADD, so THEY replied.

 

Unlike HERE, where often people with NOTHING worthwhile to add DO reply! ( Hey----I just couldn't resist!)

 

Anyway, in another forum, I put it to the test----

 

I noted the "view" number before clicking into one thread.  AFTER I closed out of it, the "view" number increased by ONE.  So, I WENT IN AGAIN, and got the same result.

 

 

Sepiatone

Unlike HERE, where often people with NOTHING worthwhile to add DO reply!

 

Or create threads.

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Monthly Update:

 

Seven threads debut on the list (meaning they have over 1,000 views) and are marked in bold. 

 

There are notes at the bottom regarding locked threads and existing threads that showed the most gains.

 

I have also included a new section called ‘Bubbling Under’ where threads that have hit the 900 view mark could potentially reach 1,000.

 

I have 57 threads over the 1,000 mark in General Discussions:

  

News: ME-TV Cutting in on TCM's Audience  38,102

*Does anyone find SONG OF THE SOUTH (1946) offensive...? 10,845

It happened on this day 9,462

John Wayne as SOTM April 2014 7,535

The Overplayed Hall of Fame 6,722

Summer Under the Stars Lineup August 2014 5,913

Classic Film Pairings 5,578

Today’s topic  5,297

Half-way through this year's SUTS-- favorite days so far...? 3,950

September 2014 Schedule 3,935

Guest Programmer Dolores Hart tonight on TCM 3,734

Who has the best voice...? 3,705

Why are some threads locked, words prohibited? 3,675

What do thread views mean? 3,628

Why do movie stars commit suicide? 3,268

So how many films have y-o-u recorded from TCM...? 3,150

Hollywood's depictions of death on screen 3,130

24 Hour Tribute for Lauren Bacall on TCM 3,049

Classic yes but is it essential? 3,000

(Not so) hidden subtext in THE STRANGER (1946)...? 2,982

MLK Day = Sidney Poitier Day 2,925

News: Director blasts Leonard Matlin for inaccurate review 2,749

Popular songs inspired by classic movies/stars 2,730

Any ideas who will be January's SOTM? 2,717

Ruth Roman on TCM! 2,607

News: Kim Novak blasts bullies 2,356

Who was ______? 2,316

Kay Francis Appreciation thread 2,305

Top 10 most-searched titles on the TCM database 2,156

TV Work by film stars you must see...! 2,089

Dr. Goldman's comments so far... 1,983

The one where a star performs in blackface 1,957

Message board experience poll 1,918

Any ideas who will be November's SOTM? 1,742

The one where the remake outshines the original 1,741

Any ideas who will be October's SOTM? 1,668

**Lew Ayres on TCM today!  1,613

Who is your favorite British actress? 1,606

In character with Eugene Pallette 1,558

Any ideas who will be September's SOTM? 1,552

On TCM – December 2014  1,522

Greer Garson as SOTM March 2013 1,514

My love is SHANE-less 1,501

TopBilled’s Classic Movie Star Recipes 1,424

I'm famous and I'm from Wisconsin 1,417

I think KLUTE could have been better 1,411

Lee Grant tonight on TCM 1,384

Any ideas who will be December's SOTM? 1,321

Nutty Jerry Lewis tonight on TCM 1,267

Movie Swan Song 1,256

News: Some viewers feel hosts do not watch all the movies they introduce 1,198

News: Dame May Whitty more popular than Rock Hudson! 1,162

The one where the men have more chemistry than the men and women 1,146

On Broadway, but not in the movie 1,139

In character with S.Z. Sakall 1,130

Classic posting 101 1,021

TOO MANY HUSBANDS and MY FAVORITE WIFE 1,020

 

Bubbling under:

AN ACT OF MURDER (1948)…969

One actress who could easily be SOTM every year…962

Why the Mitzi Gaynor spotlight was a success…940

The one where the main character is not a person or animal…911

Middle class movie star…906

 

 

*Note: This locked thread gained nearly 200 views.

**Note: This new thread hit 1000 views in seven hours. It was locked and gained another 600 views.

 

The Me-TV thread gained 1,347 views and was undoubtedly helped by a new Me-TV thread created by another user.

 

The best voice thread added 1,387 views and was the biggest gainer.

 

Also, the blackface thread added 830 views.

 

The Ruth Roman thread jumped up by 677 views, due to the late December tribute on TCM in her honor.

 

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Monthly Update:

 

Seven threads debut on the list (meaning they have over 1,000 views) and are marked in bold. 

 

There are notes at the bottom regarding locked threads and existing threads that showed the most gains.

 

I have also included a new section called ‘Bubbling Under’ where threads that have hit the 900 view mark could potentially reach 1,000.

 

I have 57 threads over the 1,000 mark in General Discussions:

  

News: ME-TV Cutting in on TCM's Audience  38,102

*Does anyone find SONG OF THE SOUTH (1946) offensive...? 10,845

It happened on this day 9,462

John Wayne as SOTM April 2014 7,535

The Overplayed Hall of Fame 6,722

Summer Under the Stars Lineup August 2014 5,913

Classic Film Pairings 5,578

Today’s topic  5,297

Half-way through this year's SUTS-- favorite days so far...? 3,950

September 2014 Schedule 3,935

Guest Programmer Dolores Hart tonight on TCM 3,734

Who has the best voice...? 3,705

Why are some threads locked, words prohibited? 3,675

What do thread views mean? 3,628

Why do movie stars commit suicide? 3,268

So how many films have y-o-u recorded from TCM...? 3,150

Hollywood's depictions of death on screen 3,130

24 Hour Tribute for Lauren Bacall on TCM 3,049

Classic yes but is it essential? 3,000

(Not so) hidden subtext in THE STRANGER (1946)...? 2,982

MLK Day = Sidney Poitier Day 2,925

News: Director blasts Leonard Matlin for inaccurate review 2,749

Popular songs inspired by classic movies/stars 2,730

Any ideas who will be January's SOTM? 2,717

Ruth Roman on TCM! 2,607

News: Kim Novak blasts bullies 2,356

Who was ______? 2,316

Kay Francis Appreciation thread 2,305

Top 10 most-searched titles on the TCM database 2,156

TV Work by film stars you must see...! 2,089

Dr. Goldman's comments so far... 1,983

The one where a star performs in blackface 1,957

Message board experience poll 1,918

Any ideas who will be November's SOTM? 1,742

The one where the remake outshines the original 1,741

Any ideas who will be October's SOTM? 1,668

**Lew Ayres on TCM today!  1,613

Who is your favorite British actress? 1,606

In character with Eugene Pallette 1,558

Any ideas who will be September's SOTM? 1,552

On TCM – December 2014  1,522

Greer Garson as SOTM March 2013 1,514

My love is SHANE-less 1,501

TopBilled’s Classic Movie Star Recipes 1,424

I'm famous and I'm from Wisconsin 1,417

I think KLUTE could have been better 1,411

Lee Grant tonight on TCM 1,384

Any ideas who will be December's SOTM? 1,321

Nutty Jerry Lewis tonight on TCM 1,267

Movie Swan Song 1,256

News: Some viewers feel hosts do not watch all the movies they introduce 1,198

News: Dame May Whitty more popular than Rock Hudson! 1,162

The one where the men have more chemistry than the men and women 1,146

On Broadway, but not in the movie 1,139

In character with S.Z. Sakall 1,130

Classic posting 101 1,021

TOO MANY HUSBANDS and MY FAVORITE WIFE 1,020

 

Bubbling under:

AN ACT OF MURDER (1948)…969

One actress who could easily be SOTM every year…962

Why the Mitzi Gaynor spotlight was a success…940

The one where the main character is not a person or animal…911

Middle class movie star…906

 

 

*Note: This locked thread gained nearly 200 views.

**Note: This new thread hit 1000 views in seven hours. It was locked and gained another 600 views.

 

The Me-TV thread gained 1,347 views and was undoubtedly helped by a new Me-TV thread created by another user.

 

The best voice thread added about 1,387 views and was the biggest gainer.

 

Also, the blackface thread added about 830 views.

 

And the Ruth Roman thread jumped up by 677 views, due to the late December morning tribute on TCM in her honor.

 

LOL

 

Your monthly STATE OF THE EGO REPORT. What's remarkable is that something as trivial as views can bolster an ego. Egos are usually more voracious than that. In view of your obsession with views, I (for one) would be interested to know if you should ever accomplish anything of real consequence. Perhaps this won't be necessary for you. The number of views a thread get seems to be the pinnacle of success. So what do views mean, I  never thought it meant much at all, who knew that it could be so tied up with self-esteem.

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