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Did anyone watch this pre-code premiere last night? There was some interference in the final scene (SEMI-SPOILER) Were they running off to get married or was that just left up in the air? I couldnt hear what Nancy and Cary were saying! Dunno if it was a cable thing or from TCM's end. Very frustrating!

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Did anyone watch this pre-code premiere last night? There was some interference in the final scene (SEMI-SPOILER) Were they running off to get married or was that just left up in the air? I couldnt hear what Nancy and Cary were saying! Dunno if it was a cable thing or from TCM's end. Very frustrating!

I didn't experience any interference here. He tells her that he made a bet with some judge in New York about finding a girl to marry someday, and he is taking her there to marry her. 

 

I had seen this a few years ago as a Netflix rental. It has several very memorable scenes.

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I didn't experience any interference here. He tells her that he made a bet with some judge in New York about finding a girl to marry someday, and he is taking her there to marry her. 

 

I had seen this a few years ago as a Netflix rental. It has several very memorable scenes.

 

 

I see. Thanks. Must have been my cable company. :(

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SPOILER: They get in his car with all the luggage in the back and she asks him: Where to? He says New York, because there's a minister there he owes a bet to. She asks what the bet was and he tells her the minister bet him that he'd find a girl he didn't want to lose and that the minister would marry them. The movie was a nice surprise, wasn't it? I didn't expect to see such a fully formed Cary Grant persona that early on. Robert O. said Nancy Carroll was big at the time and I can believe it. And Randolph Scott...Wow. I wonder if this was when Cary and Randy met, or if they already knew each other.

 

Sorry. I now see I was late in answering.

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SPOILER: They get in his car with all the luggage in the back and she asks him: Where to? He says New York, because there's a minister there he owes a bet to. She asks what the bet was and he tells her the minister bet him that he'd find a girl he didn't want to lose and that the minister would marry them. The movie was a nice surprise, wasn't it? I didn't expect to see such a fully formed Cary Grant persona that early on. Robert O. said Nancy Carroll was big at the time and I can believe it. And Randolph Scott...Wow. I wonder if this was when Cary and Randy met, or if they already knew each other.

 

Sorry. I now see I was late in answering.

 

 

Thanks. That whole scene was spoiled for me as I wasnt sure what they were saying. I thought the movie was ok. But the ending really made the movie. Couldnt believe the implication (Nancy implying she did it with Cary for real this time! LOL). I've read Nancy Carroll was a big star at Paramount in the early 30s, but fell out of favor quickly. Unsure why. I've only seen her in a couple of films (due most of her work being at Paramount).......

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Did anyone watch this pre-code premiere last night? There was some interference in the final scene (SEMI-SPOILER) Were they running off to get married or was that just left up in the air? I couldnt hear what Nancy and Cary were saying! Dunno if it was a cable thing or from TCM's end. Very frustrating!

Married. After she slept with him.

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Thanks. That whole scene was spoiled for me as I wasnt sure what they were saying. I thought the movie was ok. But the ending really made the movie. Couldnt believe the implication (Nancy implying she did it with Cary for real this time! LOL). I've read Nancy Carroll was a big star at Paramount in the early 30s, but fell out of favor quickly. Unsure why. I've only seen her in a couple of films (due most of her work being at Paramount).......

The scene with Carroll and her sister was incendiary.

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I missed the first half of this movie but I hope TCM runs it again as I would like to see it from start to finish.  I missed the lingerie scene with Nancy's character and her sister but read about it on the TCMDB which said this is when Cary and Randolph met.  Nancy Carroll was cute and a good actress.  I guess her "type" went out of vogue as the '30s rolled on.  Interesting and entertaining movie about small town "morality."  Jane Darwell is also good as the mom.  Loved the scene near the end when Nancy inferred to Randolph she and Cary did the deed.  Yes, they were going to get married after having sex!  What a concept!

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I missed the first half of this movie but I hope TCM runs it again as I would like to see it from start to finish.  I missed the lingerie scene with Nancy's character and her sister but read about it on the TCMDB which said this is when Cary and Randolph met.  Nancy Carroll was cute and a good actress.  I guess her "type" went out of vogue as the '30s rolled on.  Interesting and entertaining movie about small town "morality."  Jane Darwell is also good as the mom.  Loved the scene near the end when Nancy inferred to Randolph she and Cary did the deed.  Yes, they were going to get married after having sex!  What a concept!

 

 

LOL! Gotta love those precodes! :D

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I missed the first half of this movie but I hope TCM runs it again as I would like to see it from start to finish.  I missed the lingerie scene with Nancy's character and her sister but read about it on the TCMDB which said this is when Cary and Randolph met.  Nancy Carroll was cute and a good actress.  I guess her "type" went out of vogue as the '30s rolled on.  Interesting and entertaining movie about small town "morality."  Jane Darwell is also good as the mom.  Loved the scene near the end when Nancy inferred to Randolph she and Cary did the deed.  Yes, they were going to get married after having sex!  What a concept!

Lingerie scene - now that's a polite way to describe it. It was jaw-dropping.

 

Imagine how adult and interesting films were, before Hays and his band of wankers made all films suitable for middle school? Such a shame.

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SPOILER: They get in his car with all the luggage in the back and she asks him: Where to? He says New York, because there's a minister there he owes a bet to. She asks what the bet was and he tells her the minister bet him that he'd find a girl he didn't want to lose and that the minister would marry them. The movie was a nice surprise, wasn't it? I didn't expect to see such a fully formed Cary Grant persona that early on. Robert O. said Nancy Carroll was big at the time and I can believe it. And Randolph Scott...Wow. I wonder if this was when Cary and Randy met, or if they already knew each other.

 

Sorry. I now see I was late in answering.

 

I also was surprised to a fully formed Cary Grant.    He often looked stiff and in his early movies but he was smooth Cary in this one.

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I also was surprised to a fully formed Cary Grant.    He often looked stiff and in his early movies but he was smooth Cary in this one.

Not quite. He was nowhere near the gorgeous Cary Grant of the later movies. Maybe it was the eye makeup.

 

He was, however, better than the icky Cary Grant in the movie with Mae West.

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Not quite. He was nowhere near the gorgeous Cary Grant of the later movies. Maybe it was the eye makeup.

 

He was, however, better than the icky Cary Grant in the movie with Mae West.

 

 

He seemed much thinner in this film than later in the 30s....

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Not quite. He was nowhere near the gorgeous Cary Grant of the later movies. Maybe it was the eye makeup.

 

He was, however, better than the icky Cary Grant in the movie with Mae West.

 

Well I was talking about his screen persona not his looks,  but I'll trust you that he wasn't as gorgeous as he was in his later movies.

 

Either way I'm jealous of the early Cary or the later Cary.   That man was one great looking guy.

 

As you said one can't go wrong with a day of Cary Grant movies.

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Well I was talking about his screen persona not his looks,  but I'll trust you that he wasn't as gorgeous as he was in his later movies.

 

Either way I'm jealous of the early Cary or the later Cary.   That man was one great looking guy.

 

As you said one can't go wrong with a day of Cary Grant movies.

That's true, he did radiate the SAAM persona he cultivated so well. The shot of him, in pajamas, silk of course, and dressing gown, smoking on the steps of his house on the lake. Good grief! I wonder how this movie was received.

 

I found it funny that even Og Oggleby from The Bank Dick scored.

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I made it a point to catch Hot Saturday last night as I really enjoy pre-codes and have not seen much of Cary Grant's work from the early thirties.

 

I have to admit, my interest wandered somewhat and I ended up piddling around the house as the second half rolled on. Nonetheless, Nancy Carroll was appealing and Jane Darwell was excellent (as always) as the mom- sort of like Ma Joad if Booth Tarkington had written The Grapes of Wrath; it's a rare good role for her pre or post Oscar (she was all too often sadly underused.)

 

It's a film that makes interesting comparison to the later, far tamer Alice Adams. I liked the study of the family dynamic- they were like something out of a WC Fields comedy, only this wasn't a comedy.

 

I have no idea who the actress was who played the young, vicious small town gossip with the Louise Brooks hairdo, but I liked her. There was an animal-like quality to her presence.

 

as for Grant, he was visibly struggling to repress his Cockney accent, but did a fair job with a weird role wherein he had some real cornball dialogue to sell. Randolph Scott was also rather appealing. A young Grady Sutton was awful.

 

I don't know why, but it seemed like the print TCM showed of Hot Saturday was excellent. So clean, so clear- surely it's been given a restoration?It was downright strange to see Grant and Scott so young and in such clear focus.

 

ps- it's funny, but Grant in this film, with his tapered eyebrows reminded me very much of photos of seen of a young(er) Bela Lugosi when he was doing Dracula on the stage in the thirties.

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I was going to start a post on this movie.

I came in about halfway through and did not intend to keep watching, but I was pulled in.

WOW! What a great movie.

I see it's scheduled to air again in September during the salute to pre-codes.

 

I missed the scene with Nancy Carroll and her sister that everyone is talking about it, but I did see the scene where Nancy Carroll awakens to find that Randolph Scott has removed her wet clothes after she collapsed in the rain. There's a shot of her underwear hanging on the line that confirms that she is naked under the sheet.

 

I've never been a big fan of Cary Grant in his later movies, but I love him in HOT SATURDAY and BLONDE VENUS, another pre-code. 

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I thought Grady Sutton was fine if that character is your type of guy. He seemed quite natural in his few scenes. 

 

Grant did have a time selling some of that dialogue and did pretty well considering some of it didn't sound very natural to me.. Apparently, holding hands wasn't that big a deal as Grant and Carroll did it quite a lot at the party even though she was there with someone else. They continued even when they came back to meet her escort (Ed Woods.)

 

The scene with the sisters and the underwear was fun. I can imagine sisters being that way over prized clothing. 

 

As far as Scott goes I thought he was great in the kitchen scene where he meets up with Carroll but not as good the rest of the way. 

 

It's great to see this group in such a rare film but overall I thought it was only okay. 

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I thought Grady Sutton was fine if that character is your type of guy. He seemed quite natural in his few scenes. 

 

Grant did have a time selling some of that dialogue and did pretty well considering some of it didn't sound very natural to me.. Apparently, holding hands wasn't that big a deal as Grant and Carroll did it quite a lot at the party even though she was there with someone else. They continued even when they came back to meet her escort (Ed Woods.)

 

The scene with the sisters and the underwear was fun. I can imagine sisters being that way over prized clothing. 

 

As far as Scott goes I thought he was great in the kitchen scene where he meets up with Carroll but not as good the rest of the way. 

 

It's great to see this group in such a rare film but overall I thought it was only okay. 

 

 

Yes, Grant was stuck with a lot of bad dialog, Carroll too in the beginning until the plot kicked in...........

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I thought Grady Sutton was fine if that character is your type of guy. He seemed quite natural in his few scenes. 

 

Grant did have a time selling some of that dialogue and did pretty well considering some of it didn't sound very natural to me.. Apparently, holding hands wasn't that big a deal as Grant and Carroll did it quite a lot at the party even though she was there with someone else. They continued even when they came back to meet her escort (Ed Woods.)

 

The scene with the sisters and the underwear was fun. I can imagine sisters being that way over prized clothing. 

 

As far as Scott goes I thought he was great in the kitchen scene where he meets up with Carroll but not as good the rest of the way. 

 

It's great to see this group in such a rare film but overall I thought it was only okay. 

The scene with the sisters and the underwear was fun.

 

Such fun I bet they never again allowed a scene like that until the 1970s - which is when RO told me that the code was lifted.

 

HoldenIsHere, I forgot all about that scene. Scott is so wooden in everything he does, he didn't radiate an iota of sexiness. Meanwhile, I could see the heat coming off Grant's back in that scene on the porch.

 

Quite a film, wonderful to have in rotation - I hope it's not on at 2:00am in September - not only for its historical perspective, but those scenes, those cars, those stars.............. wowza. Curious that TCM hasn't shown it in 20 years.

 

ETA: correcting all that to all about that........

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The scene with the sisters and the underwear was fun.

 

Such fun I bet they never again allowed a scene like that until the 1970s - which is when RO told me that the code was lifted.

 

HoldenIsHere, I forgot all that scene. Scott is so wooden in everything he does, he didn't radiate an iota of sexiness. Meanwhile, I could see the heat coming off Grant's back in that scene on the porch.

 

Quite a film, wonderful to have in rotation - I hope it's not on at 2:00am in September - not only for its historical perspective, but those scenes, those cars, those stars.............. wowza. Curious that TCM hasn't shown it in 20 years.

 

Scott without a cowboy boots and a cowboy hat doesn't work for me.   

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Thanks. That whole scene was spoiled for me as I wasnt sure what they were saying. I thought the movie was ok. But the ending really made the movie. Couldnt believe the implication (Nancy implying she did it with Cary for real this time! LOL). I've read Nancy Carroll was a big star at Paramount in the early 30s, but fell out of favor quickly. Unsure why. I've only seen her in a couple of films (due most of her work being at Paramount).......

Ditto to all the comments re. the broadcast of this rare precode. Lets have more Paramount and Universal features on TCM.

 

Yes, Nancy Carroll was very popular for a short time in the late 20s and early 30s. Not sure why she faded, but she did so quickly, probably around the time of HOT SATURDAY. In fact, she was.already on the outs with the Paramount regime at this time; why else would she, as an established star, be given second billing to a(n admittedly promising) newcomer, when the stoy and bulk of screen time revolved.around her?

 

I've always thought that Paramount in the late 20s and early 30s liked pert, cute actresses with round faces.and apple cheeks (although in image and temperament they varied quite a bit). Clara Bow was the originator of the look, and maybe the others were hired in part due to similar facial structure. Nancy Carroll was next in line,.and in the early 30s, Claudette Colbert and Silvia Sidney. As Bow's career was rocked and then imploded by successive scandals, the other three were given roles meant for Clara, despite the aforemntioned.differences in each. In the end,.Colbert would become a superstar, with a long lasting career.at the top,.while Carroll's flared out nearly as dramatically as Bow's, while.Sidney's charted a middle course, a short tome at the top in the first few years, followed by a decades long stint no longer the top attraction.

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Glad to learn TCM is showing this again.  Yes, I think film history would have been quite different without the Hays code and I love pre-codes, too.  The only thing the Hays code did was to make sex scenes so subtle, with lots of subtext, that adults could figure it out without upsetting the kids and offending the prudes.  So the studios had to learn to be creative and suggestive.  Still, I would have preferred no code.  Pre-code Paramount seems to have been particularly racy.

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