macocael Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Disappointed to see that the Xmas lineup this month did not include this version of Dickens's tale among the Christmas Classics for Thursday nights. This film is far and away the best of the lot -- dark and brooding, with wonderful acting all around and great cinematography. I enjoy both the 1935 and the 1938 films, which will air on the 18th, but they really don't compare to the British 1951 film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markfp2 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I saw some of it just a week or two ago, I think it was on the Hallmark Movie Channel, which has been running nothing but Christmas movies since the beginning of November. Most likely they outbid TCM for the broadcast rights. Those channels with all the commercials every few minutes tend to have deeper pockets than TCM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Disappointed to see that the Xmas lineup this month did not include this version of Dickens's tale among the Christmas Classics for Thursday nights. This film is far and away the best of the lot -- dark and brooding, with wonderful acting all around and great cinematography. I enjoy both the 1935 and the 1938 films, which will air on the 18th, but they really don't compare to the British 1951 film. You are absolutely right, macocael. The Alastair Sim film is the best version ever of this Dickens Christmas story. Funny, I always think of it that way- as "the Alastair Sim" version, rather than the "Brian Desmond Hurst" version (he was the director.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primosprimos Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 You are absolutely right, macocael. The Alastair Sim film is the best version ever of this Dickens Christmas story. Funny, I always think of it that way- as "the Alastair Sim" version, rather than the Brian Desmond Hurst" version (he was the director.) True, true. Wonderful version. Did you notice the cloning of the Sim version for Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol, even down to the Fan relationship? The songs were better in the Magoo version. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 You are absolutely right, macocael. The Alastair Sim film is the best version ever of this Dickens Christmas story. Funny, I always think of it that way- as "the Alastair Sim" version, rather than the Brian Desmond Hurst" version (he was the director.) It's OK---I too, always refer to it that way. And I CANNOT abide by the "Reginald Owen version". But, there IS an animated version in which Jim Carrey does the voice of Scrooge. his vocal rendition DOES get tedious after a bit, but story-wise, it's pretty close to the "SIM version". My favorite tack about it is that the animators drew the various characters( Cratchet, Scrooge's nephew and such) to resembel the people providing the voices for them. For instance, Cratchet DOES resemble actor Gary Oldman, who provides the VOICE for Cratchet. Only SCROOGE, thankfully, DOESN'T look anything like Carrey. But what's funny is I still like to joke(sort of) that the "Sim version" LOOKS as if it had been filmed in 1835 or so, when the story takes place(around), Which is really my way of complimenting the fine job done by the cinematographer, and the SET designer! Sepiatone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primosprimos Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 It's OK---I too, always refer to it that way. And I CANNOT abide by the "Reginald Owen version". But, there IS an animated version in which Jim Carrey does the voice of Scrooge. his vocal rendition DOES get tedious after a bit, but story-wise, it's pretty close to the "SIM version". My favorite tack about it is that the animators drew the various characters( Cratchet, Scrooge's nephew and such) to resembel the people providing the voices for them. For instance, Cratchet DOES resemble actor Gary Oldman, who provides the VOICE for Cratchet. Only SCROOGE, thankfully, DOESN'T look anything like Carrey. But what's funny is I still like to joke(sort of) that the "Sim version" LOOKS as if it had been filmed in 1835 or so, when the story takes place(around), Which is really my way of complimenting the fine job done by the cinematographer, and the SET designer! Sepiatone Jim Carrey, animated? Barf. Have you not seen the wonderful Mr. Magoo animated version, which faithfully follows the Sim version? I loathe Jim Carrey, he must be as smarmy animated as he is in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 PrimosPrimos, while Scrooge's sister Fan appears in the '51 Desmond-Hurst version, she doesn't appear in the Mr. Magoo version. Do you mean young Scrooge's fiancee Alice ('51) / Belle ('62)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primosprimos Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 PrimosPrimos, while Scrooge's sister Fan appears in the '51 Desmond-Hurst version, she doesn't appear in the Mr. Magoo version. Do you mean young Scrooge's fiancee Alice ('51) / Belle ('62)? There's no equivalent to Sim's sister, the psychological reason for his wimmen trouble? Wow. How do they explain Magoo's Scrooge discarding his fiancee for coins when they jingle? Seems as if I must rewatch Magoo's Christmas Carol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 << "How do they explain Magoo's Scrooge discarding his fiancee for coins when they jingle?" >> They didn't try to explain the change in his attitude. I guess he just grew greedier w/ age. I do remember Magoo's Scrooge telling Belle, "...this is the way of the world!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I'm not sure( rather, I don't remember) if either woman can be found in "Mickey's Christmas Carol" by Disney. And in the newer version, with Patrick Stewart as Scrooge, the sister's name is "Fran". Sepiatone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeem Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I was a proponent of the 1951 version until I saw George C. Scott as Scrooge in CBS' 1984 made-for-television production of "A Christmas Carol." I love the supporting cast, which includes Susannah York, Frank Finlay, David Warner, Roger Rees, Michael Gough, Joanne Whalley (before she married Val Kilmer) and Edward Woodward as the Ghost of Christmas Present. Plus, it's a feast for the eyes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr6666 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 BTW, FMC is promoting their airing of the Sim version on Xmas Eve & Day (check their schedule: http://www.locatetv.com/listings/fox-movie-channel#24-Dec-2014) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primosprimos Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 BTW, FMC is promoting their airing of the Sim version on Xmas Eve & Day (check their schedule: http://www.locatetv.com/listings/fox-movie-channel#24-Dec-2014) Very nice, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaytonf Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I admire the Mr. Magoo version and the Sim version equally. For those who are interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AFfPsvbyvs There are a number of reasons it's so likable--the animation not being one of them. Jim Backus as Magoo is a terrific Scrooge. The songs are by Jule Styne and Bob Merrill, who collaborated on Funny Girl. And it has razzleberry dressing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr6666 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 don't recall seeing this version that was aired this am.... (with an invisible 'Marley') 6:00 AM 78 min drama Scrooge (1935) The legendary miser searches his past, present and future to discover the true meaning of Christmas. LEONARD MALTIN REVIEW: D: Henry Edwards; Cast: Sir Seymour Hicks, Donald Calthrop, Robert Cochran, Mary Glynne, Oscar Asche, Maurice Evans. "Faithful adaptation of A Christmas Carol, with an impressive Sir Seymour (who also co-wrote the script) as Scrooge. Dickens' era brought colorfully to life." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sr2ow_ZH9w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigarjoe Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Psssst....... don't get ticked off Scrooge (1951) was shown repeatedly last night on FXM. Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primosprimos Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Psssst....... don't get ticked off Scrooge (1951) was shown repeatedly last night on FXM. Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays BTW Except for the commercials, and a bit I thought was missing, good as ever. Sim is wonderful. Nice little article, calling out the charming scene at the end, when he shows up at his nephew's house. One of my favorites is Sim throwing his pen in the air, declaring he doesn't deserve to be so happy. http://spectator.org/articles/53094/sing-praises-alastair-sim’s-‘-christmas-carol’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigarjoe Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Except for the commercials, and a bit I thought was missing, good as ever. Sim is wonderful. Nice little article, calling out the charming scene at the end, when he shows up at his nephew's house. One of my favorites is Sim throwing his pen in the air, declaring he doesn't deserve to be so happy. http://spectator.org/articles/53094/sing-praises-alastair-sim’s-‘-christmas-carol’ This time I really picked up on the "Barbra Allen" tie in to the lost love story nice touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primosprimos Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 This time I really picked up on the "Barbra Allen" tie in to the lost love story nice touch. Joe, that was the first time I had ever heard Barbara Allen. Lovely depressing song. I then had to wait a full year to hear it again, at 11:30pm on Christmas Eve, on the mentioned in another thread WPIX. The good ole days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamradio Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Disappointed to see that the Xmas lineup this month did not include this version of Dickens's tale among the Christmas Classics for Thursday nights. This film is far and away the best of the lot -- dark and brooding, with wonderful acting all around and great cinematography. I enjoy both the 1935 and the 1938 films, which will air on the 18th, but they really don't compare to the British 1951 film. At present the Alastair version of "A Christmas Carol" is on the FXM Channel (Directv 258) Commercials plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Joe, that was the first time I had ever heard Barbara Allen. Lovely depressing song. I then had to wait a full year to hear it again, at 11:30pm on Christmas Eve, on the mentioned in another thread WPIX. The good ole days. Wow! REALLY? I had sung that song so many times in various music and chorus classes in school over the years---when I'd heard it in the movie for the first time, i wondered why since I never got a Christmas connection in the tune. Sepiatone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primosprimos Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Wow! REALLY? I had sung that song so many times in various music and chorus classes in school over the years---when I'd heard it in the movie for the first time, i wondered why since I never got a Christmas connection in the tune. Sepiatone NOW that you mention it, I think I can recall the lyrics, in blue, on a mimeograph sheet. So it must have been something we were given to read in high school. WOW! Thanks for the memory jog - but no, I had never before heard it put to music before this wonderful movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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