JakeHolman Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Senior Vice President of TCM Charles Tabesh makes comments on Birth of a Nation: http://www.galvnews.com/news_ap/entertainment/movies/article_be5d7dbf-17c9-5aa3-b805-5a69a72fd557.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie Collector OH Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Yes very interesting. Thanks for posting that. This illustrates why I like to watch TCM, and Tabesh is obviously part of that. Old films ARE historical documents, as they are intended for period audiences. While many of them never get old, others are dated, but are still an important historical document. And historical documents should be preserved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NipkowDisc Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 since it is in the public domain tcm should not show it. we don't want tcm's programming dept. to wind up with a nervous complex. there are far too many showings of GWTW and lawrence of arabia that we must be blessed with. it ain't like we have seen those two a thousand times... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie Collector OH Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 since it is in the public domain tcm should not show it. we don't want tcm's programming dept. to wind up with a nervous complex. there are far too many showings of GWTW and lawrence of arabia that we must be blessed with. it ain't like we have seen those two a thousand times... yet. A bit off-topic, but you remind me of an interesting point, and that is that TCM does do an amazing job of finding the best copies of public domain movies. I can't count how many times I have replaced DVDs I have purchased, either from fellow collectors, or even store-bought versions, with the airings from TCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeHolman Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Yes very interesting. Thanks for posting that. This illustrates why I like to watch TCM, and Tabesh is obviously part of that. Old films ARE historical documents, as they are intended for period audiences. While many of them never get old, others are dated, but are still an important historical document. And historical documents should be preserved. Agreed. And history tells us the Directors Guild of America awarded a D.W. Griffith Award for lifetime achievement, but dropped the prize in 1999. Political Correctness. The article points out Orson Welles and Stanley Kubrick and others revered Griffith. Have a great evening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jakeem Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 The article points out that Orson Welles and Stanley Kubrick and others revered Griffith. What a surprise! How many signficant black characters did Welles and Kubrick ever have in their movies? I can think of Woody Strode in "Spartacus," James Earl Jones in "Dr. Strangelove," Scatman Crothers in "The Shining," and Dorian Harewood and a few black extras in "Full Metal Jacket." As for Kubrick's visionary "2001: A Space Odyssey," was he intimating that blacks had no future at all? What's on tap next? The 70th anniversary of "Song of the South" in November 2016? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 What a surprise! How many signficant black characters did Welles and Kubrick ever have in their movies? I can think of Woody Strode in "Spartacus," James Earl Jones in "Dr. Strangelove," Scatman Crothers in "The Shining," and Dorian Harewood and a few black extras in "Full Metal Jacket." As for Kubrick's visionary "2001: A Space Odyssey," was he intimating that blacks had no future at all? What's on tap next? The 70th anniversary of "Song of the South" in November 2016? Funny but I was going to make the complete opposite point you appear to be making. My point being that a director can respect the work of another director but that doesn't mean that they respect other things about that person, like their political views. You appear to be saying that if a director like Welles respected the work and talent of Griffith that means it is because Welles has similar political view. Isn't that a very large leap of faith? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 As for Kubrick's visionary "2001: A Space Odyssey," was he intimating that blacks had no future at all? Can you name any African-made space travel films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeem Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Can you name any African-made space travel films? No. But then African-American filmmakers have enough trouble getting movies made about life on Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 No. But then African-American filmmakers have enough trouble getting movies made about life on Earth. I’m talking about African film makers.... they inhabit and control an entire continent which is much bigger than the US. They're even constructing a space shuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeem Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I’m talking about African film makers.... they inhabit and control an entire continent which is much bigger than the US. Sorry, I just thought you were typing too fast! As far as I can tell -- and from what I learned from Mark Cousins' documentary "The Story of Film" -- African filmmakers are still dealing with this planet and the after-effects of colonialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie Collector OH Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I’m talking about African film makers.... they inhabit and control an entire continent which is much bigger than the US. They're even constructing a space shuttle. Like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeHolman Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 What's on tap next? The 70th anniversary of "Song of the South" in November 2016? Why not? You have a wise & kind old black man in a time many seem to want to erase from the collective memory. Political Correctness. Have a great day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeem Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Why not? You have a wise & kind old black man in a time many seem to want to erase from the collective memory. Political Correctness. Have a great day. You, too! I have to admit the "wise & kind old black man" is more palatable than the glorification of the Ku Klux_Klan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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