Fedya Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I infer, perhaps incorrectly, that Lorna is suggesting Gigi copied My Fair Lady in a number of ways. But I must have misunderstood something, because I'm pretty sure Lorna would know that Gigi (1958) was in fact made 6 years before My Fair Lady (1964.) Of course, it's possible Gigi might still be copy-catting MFL, not from the movie but from the stage production, which first appeared on Broadway, according to wiki, in 1956. But that wouldn't account for the implied attempt to make Caron seem similar to Audrey Hepburn. What-evah. It's maybe worth noting that Gigi is based on a novella by the French writer Colette. You know, sometimes wikipedia really is quite informative: I just found out that a stage production of Gigi was mounted in 1951 - and that Colette herself personally selected Audrey Hepburn to play the title role ! My Fair Lady is of course based on Pygmalion, which goes back a year or two, or maybe a bit more, before the 1958 version of Gigi. (I find Maurice Chevalier's rendition of "Thank Heaven for Little Girls" to be ultra-creepy.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickAndNora34 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Two Mules for Sister Sara (1969): Shirley MacLaine & Clint Eastwood. I found myself imitating Eastwood for a lot of this movie; it was actually better than I thought it would be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (by the way, I could not directly quote Lorna's entire post, had to copy and paste instead. How do you people do that multiple quotes in one post thing??) When you click quote on a certain post you scroll up the thread and click on it again. (I see there's also a multiquote button, but I've never used it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer5 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 My Fair Lady is of course based on Pygmalion, which goes back a year or two, or maybe a bit more, before the 1958 version of Gigi. (I find Maurice Chevalier's rendition of "Thank Heaven for Little Girls" to be ultra-creepy.) I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that song was creepy... especially when Chevalier delivers it with a certain leering quality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer5 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Regarding Lorna's comments about Gigi: (by the way, I could not directly quote Lorna's entire post, had to copy and paste instead. How do you people do that multiple quotes in one post thing??) I was the one who initially compared Gigi to My Fair Lady, Lorna was replying to me. I was aware that the play and Audrey's performance of Gigi came first, but I couldn't help but think that Vincente Minnelli sort of styled Leslie Caron after Hepburn. I believe that I read that Hepburn was offered the role in the film first, but she was unable to commit due to other projects she was involved in. I thought Caron did a fine job. Both she and Hepburn have a "waif-ish," gamine quality to them. Casting someone who was too elegant like Grace Kelly or too sexy like Elizabeth Taylor would not have been successful. I do like both films. To Multi-quote: At the bottom of the first post you want to reply to, click on the "MultiQuote" button. Click on "MultiQuote" on each post you want to reply to. When you're done, at the bottom right corner of your screen, a box should have popped up with a button stating "Reply to Quoted Posts." Click on that and then the reply box will pop up with each post that you clicked on prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swithin Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I was the one who initially compared Gigi to My Fair Lady, Lorna was replying to me. I was aware that the play and Audrey's performance of Gigi came first, but I couldn't help but think that Vincente Minnelli sort of styled Leslie Caron after Hepburn. I believe that I read that Hepburn was offered the role in the film first, but she was unable to commit due to other projects she was involved in. I thought Caron did a fine job. Both she and Hepburn have a "waif-ish," gamine quality to them. Casting someone who was too elegant like Grace Kelly or too sexy like Elizabeth Taylor would not have been successful. I do like both films. pop up with each post that you clicked on prior. Do you think Leslie Caron having played Lili in 1953 may have had something to do with her casting in Gigi? (Of course it was a shame that Julie Andrews couldn't repeat her stage success as Eliza in the film of My Fair Lady). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer5 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Do you think Leslie Caron having played Lili in 1953 may have had something to do with her casting in Gigi? (Of course it was a shame that Julie Andrews couldn't repeat her stage success as Eliza in the film of My Fair Lady). Her role in Lili could have had something to do with it, perhaps? I've never seen the film, so this was never something that I even considered. I did read that Hepburn was the first choice for the role because she had performed the role on Broadway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer5 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Joker is Wild. I recorded this film for Sinatra and Mitzi Gaynor. I was happy to see that Eddie Albert was also in this film. I thought this was a great movie. I especially enjoyed Sinatra's performance. He plays the tortured charmer very well. I am a Gaynor fan and I thought she did a great job in this dramatic role. She had second billing in this film and I waited and waited for her to show up. She looked beautiful as always and I enjoyed her performance as Sinatra's wife whom he never sees because both have successful careers. For some reason, even though I've seen Albert in a few movies now, I always forget that he was such a great actor. I keep thinking of him as "Oli-var!" Douglas in Green Acres. I look forward to seeing more Sinatra, Gaynor and Albert in the future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swithin Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Her role in Lili could have had something to do with it, perhaps? I've never seen the film, so this was never something that I even considered. I did read that Hepburn was the first choice for the role because she had performed the role on Broadway. Have you seen this clip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer5 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Have you seen this clip? No I haven't. I'd remember that creepy puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swithin Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 No I haven't. I'd remember that creepy puppet. One of the great movie songs! You mentioned your age earlier. If you were older, the puppet wouldn't seem creepy, because it looks like the puppets from the Kukla, Fran, and Ollie generation. Also Howdy Doody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer5 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 One of the great movie songs! You mentioned your age earlier. If you were older, the puppet wouldn't seem creepy, because it looks like the puppets from the Kukla, Fran, and Ollie generation. Also Howdy Doody. I will look for Lili on the TCM schedule or try to find it via Netflix. I enjoy musicals and I like Leslie Caron. I liked Gigi. Does this film take place in Paris or another city in France? For some reason, I really enjoy movies with Paris as a setting. I notice there are quite a few films from the 50s-60s that feature these puppet shows. While I've heard of Kukla, Fran and Ollie, I never knew that they were puppets. I knew that Howdy Doody was a puppet, but I can't say I've ever seen his show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapphiere Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 One of the great movie songs! You mentioned your age earlier. If you were older, the puppet wouldn't seem creepy, because it looks like the puppets from the Kukla, Fran, and Ollie generation. Also Howdy Doody. Howdy Dowdy, Buffalo Bob, Clarabelle the clown, and SUMMERFALLWINTERSPRING the Indian Princess. the Good Old Days! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonesomePolecat Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Gotta say I'm obsessed with LILI -- one of my favorite movies of all time. Don't know why, but it just makes me really happy. Watched like 5 movies today. Saw one for the first time called RANSOM! with Glenn Ford and Donna Reed, which has been on my DVR for a while. For some reason this movie really impressed me. Thought it would be a semi-empty suspense/thriller type thing (a genre I love, btw) but it turned out to be really deep and interesting. The overall theme was a man-against-the-world type thing, like HIGH NOON-- he knows he's doing the right thing but everyone hates him for it, even his wife. Donna Reed's emotional unraveling was brilliant, I thought. Usually she plays strong women, so it was great to see her falling apart. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikisoo Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 After several recommendations on this board, I reluctantly watched LILI. Clips made it seem really insipid, but glad I had an open mind. I LURVED it too! There is something very touching about the charactors making it feel noble instead of insipid. Caron ranks among my favorite actresses-so graceful a presence. As for Kukla, Fran & Ollie....puppets ARE creepy. Any object that "has eyes that cannot see" creeps humans out. They strike us as a lifeless dead body. (and then they MOVE!) This is why dolls & puppets are often in horror films. My favorite puppets are the MST robots-only Crow has ping pong ball eyes and they're not scary at all - because they don't representing humans or animals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkblue Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 puppets ARE creepy. It's off the air now, but one of my favorite shows for a while there was 'Puppets Who Kill' - a Canadian (shot in Toronto) black-comedy series about 4 homicidal puppets co-habiting a halfway house with their assigned counselor. Fabulous stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 My favorite puppets are the MST robots-only Crow has ping pong ball eyes and they're not scary at all - ...with the exception of the one time he paid homage to Jack Elam: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 When you click quote on a certain post you scroll up the thread and click on it again. (I see there's also a multiquote button, but I've never used it.) When you click quote on a certain post you scroll up the thread and click on it again. (I see there's also a multiquote button, but I've never used it.) Hmm. Thanks for the advice, Kay, but I must still be doing something wrong. All it did was bring up the same quote twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 It's off the air now, but one of my favorite shows for a while there was 'Puppets Who Kill' - a Canadian (shot in Toronto) black-comedy series about 4 homicidal puppets co-habiting a halfway house with their assigned counselor. Fabulous stuff. ...with the exception of the one time he paid homage to Jack Elam: Hmm. Thanks for the advice, Kay, but I must still be doing something wrong. All it did was bring up the same quote twice. Click "multiquote" on as many posts as you like (you'll see a tally as you click) and then click on "reply." All the quotes show up in your post. I never tried it before now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Click "multiquote" on as many posts as you like (you'll see a tally as you click) and then click on "reply." All the quotes show up in your post. I never tried it before now. Well, you're a mathematician, so of course such a highly complex problem would be simple for you. I, on the other hand, never got beyond simple algebra. (and even that only a C+.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer5 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Gotta say I'm obsessed with LILI -- one of my favorite movies of all time. Don't know why, but it just makes me really happy. Watched like 5 movies today. Saw one for the first time called RANSOM! with Glenn Ford and Donna Reed, which has been on my DVR for a while. For some reason this movie really impressed me. Thought it would be a semi-empty suspense/thriller type thing (a genre I love, btw) but it turned out to be really deep and interesting. The overall theme was a man-against-the-world type thing, like HIGH NOON-- he knows he's doing the right thing but everyone hates him for it, even his wife. Donna Reed's emotional unraveling was brilliant, I thought. Usually she plays strong women, so it was great to see her falling apart. Thanks to everyone for the recommendation to watch Lili. I am happy to report that this movie will be airing next month on the 26th. I'll make sure to watch/DVR it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Hmm. Thanks for the advice, Kay, but I must still be doing something wrong. All it did was bring up the same quote twice. You can also click quote on someone else's post, and then someone else's again in the same way. I thought you wanted to quote Lorna twice, but separately. Maybe multiquote is better, but new things scare me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Thanks to everyone for the recommendation to watch Lili. I am happy to report that this movie will be airing next month on the 26th. I'll make sure to watch/DVR it! BEWARE THE FACT that it is HIGHLY LIKELY you will NOT be able to get the theme song HI-LILI-HI-LILI-HI-LO out of your head for, oh...the next eight to nine weeks after viewing. (Six months at the most.) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lydecker Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I have something much worse. I finally watched "Curly Top" the other night and I will clearly NEVER, EVER, get "Animal Crackers In My Soup" out of my head. Lydecker 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I have something much worse. I finally watched "Curly Top" the other night and I will clearly NEVER, EVER, get "Animal Crackers In My Soup" out of my head. Lydecker Ahh! I had that one, but I caught it from the trailer for What's the Matter With Helen? they were running for a while. It was terrible- kept me laid up for days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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