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1 hour ago, CinemaInternational said:

A Place for Lovers (1968) -- 3/10

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I knew that when this film was first released that it was generally regarded as an unmitigated disaster. However, the whole idea of a tragic romance with Faye Dunaway and Marcello Mastroianni directed by Vittoria De Sica sounded like it couldn't be that bad. Wrong, wrong, wrong. The two stars are at their most photogenic, especially Dunaway, and the European scenery is glorious, but this is an incredibly vapid and lifeless film that never feels credible for a single moment. You never really get the feeling that these are two actual human beings at the center of this tale; their dialogue feels like it was made up by a computer with no idea of how human interaction actually worked. Ella Fitzgerald sings the title song; at least that isn't a disappointment. But the rest, with its listlessness and its utter waste of two great stars (to say nothing of a brief moment of barbaric animal cruelty) make this a film so disappointing that it almost feels like it can single-handedly kill off the auteur theory.

If you go to Wikipedia and look up the article for “the worst movies of all time” this film actually has an  entry!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_considered_the_worst

(of course, so does MOMMIE DEAREST, most undeservedly if I may say, so grain of salt.)

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2 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

If you go to Wikipedia and look up the article for “the worst movies of all time” this film actually has an  entry!

(of course, so does MOMMIE DEAREST, most undeservedly if I may say, so grain of salt.)

That's probably because IMDb's User-contributed, so everyone pretty much pasted up:

A) anything that was ever mentioned by the Medveds in the Golden Turkeys and 50 Worst Films,

B ) any movie from the Mike era of MST3K,

C ) any overhyped flop we giggled over in the 90's, or 

D) gay cult movies that the cult giggles over the very symbolic existence of.

Unlike Mommie Dearest's D, Place for Lovers was A.  I'd never heard of it either before then.

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16 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

If you go to Wikipedia and look up the article for “the worst movies of all time” this film actually has an  entry!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_considered_the_worst

(of course, so does MOMMIE DEAREST, most undeservedly if I may say, so grain of salt.)

I've always heard how bad this film was, but have never watched it. Was a HUGE BOMB when it was released. It pops up on TCM fairly regularly...

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On 10/3/2020 at 7:59 AM, cigarjoe said:

Yea Randell was pretty good, I've seen him before in a Bulldog Drummond, and recently in Sign Of The Ram on Noir Alley but don't remember him in much else though he had a long TV career.

Wasn't he in Ben-Hur? Or maybe some other Biblical epic in the 60s.

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26 minutes ago, Hibi said:

Wasn't he in Ben-Hur? Or maybe some other Biblical epic in the 60s.

Yes! KING OF KINGS, And he’s pretty good in it too as I recall. 
BEN-HUR would *possibly* have sucked a lot less with RON RANDELL in either the Heston or Boyd roles.

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1 hour ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

Yes! KING OF KINGS, And he’s pretty good in it too as I recall. 
BEN-HUR would *possibly* have sucked a lot less with RON RANDELL in either the Heston or Boyd roles.

YES!

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Just now, LornaHansonForbes said:

I just don’t like it period. I’ve never liked it, I especially don’t like it now that I’ve seen the silent version which is like 20 times better.

Aside from the technical aspects, I like it better too.

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Honestly, the only scene in “Ben-Hur” that I enjoy is when Heston throws the spear at Boyd and goes “EEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHH!!!!!   !” 
(Or something to that effect.)

Cracks me up every single time I see it. I would make it my ringtone if I could.

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59 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

Honestly, the only scene in “Ben-Hur” that I enjoy is when Heston throws the spear at Boyd and goes “EEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHH!!!!!   !” 
(Or something to that effect.)

Cracks me up every single time I see it. I would make it my ringtone if I could.

LOL!

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I enjoy reading the different things people are watching.  Tonight, after local/national news, it is Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy.  Then, since I'm a sucker for Ziva David episodes of NCIS (conflicting reports on whether she will return for Season 18), stick with CBS for Ziva.  I'm also a fan of John Slatterly and I think his show debuts on the CW tonight.  

P.S. I know that Cote De Pablo isn't Jewish, but it makes no difference to me.

 

 

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22 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

If you go to Wikipedia and look up the article for “the worst movies of all time” this film actually has an  entry!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_considered_the_worst

(of course, so does MOMMIE DEAREST, most undeservedly if I may say, so grain of salt.)

Ishtar, like Mommie Dearest really doesn't belong there.  I'd prbably give At Long Last Love a chance if i ever came in contact with it.  Place for Lovers and The Swarm are bad though. And Cats got on there very quickly,.....

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7 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

I didn’t see it, but I feel safe to say it was deserved. 
I wonder how far down my thread about CATS has fallen. It was pretty long lived. 
(easy punchline there)

It premieres on HBO on Saturday. Expect more furballs to arrive shortly after it airs.....

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On 10/5/2020 at 3:16 PM, LornaHansonForbes said:

If you go to Wikipedia and look up the article for “the worst movies of all time” this film actually has an  entry!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_considered_the_worst

(of course, so does MOMMIE DEAREST, most undeservedly if I may say, so grain of salt.)

Lol.  Reefer Madness is pretty amazing.  I think it's on the poster (or maybe on the back of the DVD) where it says that marijuana will turn girls to "brazen hussies." 

I have Myra Breckenridge on the DVR.  I was thinking of pairing it with The Legend of Lylah Clare (also on the DVR). 

I just heard about The Apple for the first time.  It was mentioned on a podcast that I follow. 

Mommie Dearest was amazing.  I loved it.

I was always disappointed that there wasn't a Garbage Pail Kid with my name when they were newish.  When they re-issued the Garbage Pail Kids a while back, there was a Garbage Pail Kid with my name but the picture wasn't gross.  I wanted the grossest, most disgusting Garbage Pail Kid for my name, but mine was lame.  

We have Mac and Me on the DVR too.  Originally we recorded it because Paul Rudd always uses a clip from this movie on Conan.  He shows it in lieu of a clip from whatever movie he's actually promoting.  We wanted to see the film in the context of the clip that Rudd shows.

The best version of Showgirls is the edited for TV version.  The censorship is amazing and so poorly done.

I don't know what Sex Lives of the Potato Men is, but I love the title. 

I  haven't seen Cats yet, but I feel like it'd be best enjoyed while drinking wine. I do have HBO.  Hmm...

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9 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

(Mikey-fan Rifftrax clip, where the guys giggle uproariously that it's, like, the "future" 1994  🙄 )

Or, for those who want a more analytical scene-by-scene overview breakdown, from a Mikey-fangirl with a little more thematic focus:

For CinemaInternational, we also get an analytical skewering of At Long Last Love:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7avgEciCwHQ

Like I said, IMDb's list is user-contributed, which is why we also get the Worst German Film, the Worst Italian Film, and the Worst Bollywood Film ever made!

18 hours ago, Hibi said:

I've always heard how bad (Mommie Dearest)  was, but have never watched it. Was a HUGE BOMB when it was released. It pops up on TCM fairly regularly...

Speaking as a rare heterosexual viewer who came across it in the days of cable, it's bad.  A whole different kind of bad than the one its core audience relishes in, but basically the most hysterical Faye Dunaway performance ever--let's linger on those words a few moments, people--attached to a drama that wants to be tragic Hollywood deconstruction, no matter how ridiculously her skewed book author portrayed it, and by the last reel of downfall drama after Joan loses her post on the Coca-Cola board, you just wish it would blessed end.  From Frank Perry, the director who went on to Monsignor, another over-mounted two-hour melodrama that felt like four, thanks to a plot that meanders in a slow death-march to the nasty protagonist's "ironic" downfall with no thematic road-map.  (In the last scene, stepdaughter/victim Christine learns she's been cut out of Joan's will, and her expression pretty sums up OUR reaction to coming out of this long slog with no moral reward.)

I'm sure the same audience would have latched onto "Eyes of Laura Mars" if this movie had never existed, but that one, at least, wasn't quite as implausibly melodramatic and punishing, nor had as much smeared-makeup-porn for them to enjoy.

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I finally watched THE TALENTED MR RIPLEY 1999. This movie is an intrigue thriller type movie and I wanted to see the principle actors work.  I've seen Matt Damon in a few roles before, but this was a real starring vehicle. I like Gwyneth Paltrow's pale, willowyness in movies. This was my first time seeing Jude Law and he's a gorgeous man.

Basically this is a story of Damon's charactor, a con man hired to bring rich playboy (Law) back from his non stop frolic in Italy, Paltrow is his GF. First Damon uses his wits to ingratiate himself to his Americano buddies, then things take a violent turn for the worse. And that's where the movie lost me. I found this movie distasteful, but am particularly sensitive to violence. I do think the story would have been more successful if Mr Ripley's "talents" continued intellectually. Did I fall asleep somewhere and miss something? 

The look of this movie helps pull along a sometimes sluggish story. The best moments are of Damon & Law carousing French blues clubs reminiscent of Vittorio Gassman in 1962's Il Sorpasso. Charming. The acting was excellent, all principle charactors were natural & the dialogue believable. There is a scene early on at the beach that is almost worth the price of admission. 

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6 hours ago, EricJ said:

Or, for those who want a more analytical scene-by-scene overview breakdown, from a Mikey-fangirl with a little more thematic focus:

For CinemaInternational, we also get an analytical skewering of At Long Last Love:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7avgEciCwHQ

Like I said, IMDb's list is user-contributed, which is why we also get the Worst German Film, the Worst Italian Film, and the Worst Bollywood Film ever made!

Speaking as a rare heterosexual viewer who came across it in the days of cable, it's bad.  A whole different kind of bad than the one its core audience relishes in, but basically the most hysterical Faye Dunaway performance ever--let's linger on those words a few moments, people--attached to a drama that wants to be tragic Hollywood deconstruction, no matter how ridiculously her skewed book author portrayed it, and by the last reel of downfall drama after Joan loses her post on the Coca-Cola board, you just wish it would blessed end.  From Frank Perry, the director who went on to Monsignor, another over-mounted two-hour melodrama that felt like four, thanks to a plot that meanders in a slow death-march to the nasty protagonist's "ironic" downfall with no thematic road-map.  (In the last scene, stepdaughter/victim Christine learns she's been cut out of Joan's will, and her expression pretty sums up OUR reaction to coming out of this long slog with no moral reward.)

I'm sure the same audience would have latched onto "Eyes of Laura Mars" if this movie had never existed, but that one, at least, wasn't quite as implausibly melodramatic and punishing, nor had as much smeared-makeup-porn for them to enjoy.

I wasn't referring to MOMMIE DEAREST (I didn't put those parentheses in there). I was referring to A PLACE FOR LOVERS! (although I agree Mommie Dearest IS bad).

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Mentioned in another thread, last night I tuned in to see MR. AND MRS. SMITH ('41) with ROBERT MONTGOMERY and CAROLE LOMBARD.  Believe it or not, the last time I saw this was back in the late '70's at my doctor's office.  I was there on a Saturday afternoon taking a day long glucose tolerance test and the room I waited in had a TV and was tuned into the Bill Kennedy movie presentation.  I remember Bill saying the movie was the only delve into comedy by director ALFRED HITCHCOCK, and that while other of his movies might have been peppered with occasional comic scenes, this movie supposedly( to Kennedy at least)proved that Hitch  had no real flair for comedy.  And I will admit that upon my first viewing over 40 years ago, I had to agree with Bill.  And I only tuned in last night due to a vacuous  TV schedule elsewhere and my DVD player being on the fritz.  ;)    But after giving it a second chance, my original opinion still holds.

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