LornaHansonForbes Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, cigarjoe said: I think it was done right, she's hesitant and sort of unsure of herself as you would expect a newbie to be. Is that what you are getting at, or did you mean something else, i.e. how she looked doing it? Genuine curiosity. I’ve never seen the film, but I think I saw a clip of the scene in the trailer and it looked wild. Kinda GLAM ROCK/STEVIE NICKSISH as I recall- But again I am recalling a video clip I saw about 30 years ago. Funny the way somethings embed themselves in your brain huh? Link to post Share on other sites
Lori Ann Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I saw "A Midsummer Night's Dream" yesterday for the first time. On a scale of 1-10, I'd rate it at 7. There was one part I didn't like (or didn't understand). It was a long film also...a little over 2 hours. I read the book once, back in (maybe) middle school. Don't remember it at all. Lori Link to post Share on other sites
cigarjoe Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, LornaHansonForbes said: Genuine curiosity. I’ve never seen the film, but I think I saw a clip of the scene in the trailer and it looked wild. Kinda GLAM ROCK/STEVIE NICKSISH as I recall- But again I am recalling a video clip I saw about 30 years ago. Funny the way somethings embed themselves in your brain huh? Now that you mention it, it looks more like what a strip joint looked like back in the 1980s/90s (costumes too see below) than the barebones look of the watering holes that decided overnight to go topless in the late 1960s It should have looked more like the screencaps below: If you had a high ceiling the strippers could dance on the top of the bar or back bar like this screencap from All Fall Down (1963) If you had a cellar or low ceiling dump the strippers did a floor show like below in Flesh and Lace (1965) Though I do remember a couple of joints in Montana actually did have low stages (two or three feet off the floor) for dancers. With CrissCross another anachronism Goldie was wearing a thong which I don't think was even around 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LornaHansonForbes Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 39 minutes ago, cigarjoe said: With CrissCross another anachronism Goldie was wearing a thong which I don't think was even around She also sports a thong in OVERBOARD (1987.) She pulls it off. (The look, I mean.) 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Sepiatone Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 But then JOE.... there's THIS from WIKI "According to some fashion historians, the first public appearance of the thong in the United States was at the 1939 New York World's Fair. " Which puts it 30 years before the time in the movie that Goldie started stripping. Sepiatone 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
chaya bat woof woof Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 There have been several versions of Midsommer Night's Dream. TCM usually runs the one with Mickey Rooney and James Cagney. I would rate it less than a 7. Believe it or not, and popular opinion is probably against me, Shakespeare doesn't always play well on the big screen. My Mom saw Paul Robson play Othello, and she could not imagine anyone equaling his performance. Link to post Share on other sites
JamesJazGuitar Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, chaya bat woof woof said: There have been several versions of Midsommer Night's Dream. TCM usually runs the one with Mickey Rooney and James Cagney. I would rate it less than a 7. Believe it or not, and popular opinion is probably against me, Shakespeare doesn't always play well on the big screen. My Mom saw Paul Robson play Othello, and she could not imagine anyone equaling his performance. Is there another version of a Midsummer Night's Dream that you like better than the `1935 one? Link to post Share on other sites
chaya bat woof woof Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Woody Allen did some sort of version and I don't know if David E. Kelly also did one. Saw a good version on TV years ago with Diana Rigg as one of the two young couples (I think she was Helena?). Link to post Share on other sites
Fedya Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 hours ago, cigarjoe said: CrissCross (1992) Key West - Kid Neo Noir - Lite Did the movie make you jump? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
EricJ Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, chaya bat woof woof said: Woody Allen did some sort of version Er, no--Woody did some sort of version of Bergman's "Smiles of a Summer Night", but we weren't suspecting him of Bergman/Fellini-plagiarism yet. And while the nude-Judi-Dench version of the Shakespeare has its good points, the only other good version besides Mickey Rooney's definitive Puck would be the '99 version with Michelle Pfeiffer as Titania, and Kevin Kline Kline-ing it up as Bottom. If the OP had told us which one she saw, it would make for more interesting discussion. 😄 6 hours ago, chaya bat woof woof said: My Mom saw Paul Robson play Othello, and she could not imagine anyone equaling his performance. Now that the late-70's/early 80's BBC Jonathan Miller Shakespeares are all over streaming, it's easier to find a full barking-mode Anthony Hopkins in stage blackface as Hannibal Othello, with a pre-Roger Rabbit Bob Hoskins as Iago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VICggXcrgMk When I was in high school, the older lit class got a field trip to see the stage tour of James Earl Jones & Christopher Plummer in the big city, but ours didn't. 😡 And of course, it's never been committed to film, PBS or Showtime? Our classes usually got to watch the made-for-VHS Bard Productions, with retired name stars on a Globe-style stage, but think we only saw the Hopkins BBC version, not William "Blacula" Marshall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCdHpKXw_Tg Link to post Share on other sites
Lori Ann Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 6 hours ago, chaya bat woof woof said: There have been several versions of Midsommer Night's Dream. TCM usually runs the one with Mickey Rooney and James Cagney. I would rate it less than a 7. Believe it or not, and popular opinion is probably against me, Shakespeare doesn't always play well on the big screen. My Mom saw Paul Robson play Othello, and she could not imagine anyone equaling his performance. That's the one I saw. Can you explain why the queen of the fairies went off with Victor Jory's character? In the imdb cast, he's listed as "king of the fairies" but I thought he was evil. The way he was always with Mickey Rooney's character, I thought they were both devils. Lori Link to post Share on other sites
Sepiatone Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 17 hours ago, chaya bat woof woof said: Woody Allen did some sort of version and I don't know if David E. Kelly also did one. Saw a good version on TV years ago with Diana Rigg as one of the two young couples (I think she was Helena?). You're probably thinking of Woody's '82 farce A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S SEX COMEDY, which was loosely based on Ingmar Bergman's '55 film SMILES OF A SUMMER'S NIGHT. Woody's movie had nothing to do with the Shakespeare play. And I never though Diana Rigg was big enough to play one of the young couples. Maybe I misunderstood? Sepiatone 1 Link to post Share on other sites
chaya bat woof woof Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Look up the 1968 movie on IMDB (pretty good cast). I saw it on TV. Thanks for the clarification on Woody Allen. There was a version with Michelle Pfeiffer and Kevin Kline (I think Michelle's husband directed it). Link to post Share on other sites
Hoganman1 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Wow, it's hard to follow a discussion about Goldie Hawn in a thong, but here goes. I just finished NIGHTFALL recorded from MOVIES. It was pretty good. Anne Bancroft was gorgeous. However, I kept flashing forward to her role as Mrs. Robinson in THE GRADUATE. I also liked Aldo Ray's performance. I did some research and he had a very interesting career. Apparently, alcohol and (according to him) women were his undoing. Brian Keith was really good too. I'd give it maybe a 6 or 7 out of 10. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
JamesJazGuitar Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Hoganman1 said: Wow, it's hard to follow a discussion about Goldie Hawn in a thong, but here goes. I just finished NIGHTFALL recorded from MOVIES. It was pretty good. Anne Bancroft was gorgeous. However, I kept flashing forward to her role as Mrs. Robinson in THE GRADUATE. I also liked Aldo Ray's performance. I did some research and he had a very interesting career. Apparently, alcohol and (according to him) women were his undoing. Brian Keith was really good too. I'd give it maybe a 6 or 7 out of 10. Big fan of Nightfall. I feel it is one of the better late-in-the-cycle-noirs. Ray's character is a classic noir protagonist. The use of flashbacks and other noir film techniques are well done, in a not too obvious manner (unlike some other noirs made in the mid-to-late-50s). Nice mix of indoor and outdoor scenes. Ann looks wonderful. Solid direction by directed by Jacques Tourneu. Also some of the best work by James Gregory and Rudy Bond (as red). And of course there is the ending! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TikiSoo Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 17 hours ago, Hoganman1 said: Wow, it's hard to follow a discussion about Goldie Hawn in a thong, but here goes. I just finished NIGHTFALL Haha- I've wanted to see NIGHTFALL forever-love the 3 principle actors & would like to see them together in a decent movie. So where can I find this MOVIES channel? Is it over-the-air, streaming or cable? Link to post Share on other sites
Hoganman1 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, TikiSoo said: Haha- I've wanted to see NIGHTFALL forever-love the 3 principle actors & would like to see them together in a decent movie. So where can I find this MOVIES channel? Is it over-the-air, streaming or cable? We have Spectrum and they carry it over the air. If you have cable check your provider's listings. They show noirs all day on Thursdays and Sunday nights. However, they have commercials so I always record them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sepiatone Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 MOVIES! is a channel I have on my Wide Open west cable service. Looking into it, the only area outside of New York City I can find is ROCHESTER. I have no idea how close(if at all) that is to you, but there, it's over the air frequency is WBGT 46.7. Hope that helps. Sepiatone 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LornaHansonForbes Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sepiatone said: Looking into it, the only area outside of New York City I can find is ROCHESTER. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
LornaHansonForbes Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 19 hours ago, Hoganman1 said: Wow, it's hard to follow a discussion about Goldie Hawn in a thong, but here goes. I just finished NIGHTFALL recorded from MOVIES. It was pretty good. Anne Bancroft was gorgeous. However, I kept flashing forward to her role as Mrs. Robinson in THE GRADUATE. I also liked Aldo Ray's performance. I did some research and he had a very interesting career. Apparently, alcohol and (according to him) women were his undoing. Brian Keith was really good too. I'd give it maybe a 6 or 7 out of 10. I hope its a thousand years from now, but when GOLDIE passes on to become an IMMORTAL ANGEL, her obit should read "GOLDIE HAWN. MOTHER. ACTRESS. OSCAR WINNER. SINGER. DANCER. UNSPOKEN PIONEER OF THE THONG." I'm not ashamed to admit ALDO RAY is 10/10 for me. The blonde hair AND the hairy chest is the CYNCHER. He was also a solid actor, although anyone who knows me knows I go easy on a pretty face (or a hairy chest.) He was apparently a terrible person though. JUDY HOLLIDAY hated him, and in the 70's, he ended up appearing in a couple of (i think) outright pornographic films, maybe they were softcore...but his career ended BADLY is my point. (He does not have any sex scenes) and he aged BAAAAAADLY. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LornaHansonForbes Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 ONE MORE (BECAUSE WHY NOT?) 3 Link to post Share on other sites
speedracer5 Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 58 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said: I'm not ashamed to admit ALDO RAY is 10/10 for me. The blonde hair AND the hairy chest is the CYNCHER. He was also a solid actor, although anyone who knows me knows I go easy on a pretty face (or a hairy chest.) He was apparently a terrible person though. JUDY HOLLIDAY hated him, and in the 70's, he ended up appearing in a couple of (i think) outright pornographic films, maybe they were softcore...but his career ended BADLY is my point. (He does not have any sex scenes) and he aged BAAAAAADLY. I hated him in The Marrying Kind with Holliday. Am I missing something with that film? It basically turned me off of him completely. Is there a better film to see him in? Link to post Share on other sites
midwestan Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I saw the restored versions of "Tunes of Glory" and "The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp" Thursday night. "Tunes" was about a Scottish regimental base that undergoes a command change and the dynamics involved with receiving the support of the subordinates. Alec Guinness plays the temporary commander who gives way to John Mills who takes over the post. Guinness' character is outspoken, brash, and mostly jovial, while Mills is more reserved, but outspoken as well. Mills is all about the regiment, its decorum, sense of duty, and tradition. Guinness is more than willing to cut corners and allow his men more freedom to 'let their hair down', so to speak. As the film progresses, Mills seems to slowly win over most of the men, but in the end, their loyalties swing back toward Guinness and he ultimately assumes command of the post again. The irony comes at the end when Guinness does a complete 180 and starts to display some of the characteristics shown by Mills when he was the commandant. This leaves the officers under his command completely baffled. I wasn't sure if I'd like this one after the first 20 or 30 minutes, but it grew on me, and I'd give it an 8 out of 10 rating. The acting in it is first-rate, and I was particularly impressed with Guinness' performance. I'm not exactly sure what was restored in this film, as I listened to the wrap-around for "Tunes of Glory", but the film was beautifully shot and the colors seemed to really pop. "Life and Death..." was also a first-time view for me. Generally, I like anything Deborah Kerr happens to be in, and she gives a nice performance as three different characters in a film that spans 45+ years in the life of a man in the British military/foreign service (played by Roger Livesey). The story is told in flashbacks after it starts out in present-day London (present-day being 1943), and goes back to the late 1890's with the British involvement in the Boer War. Anton Walbrook is also another principle in the film who plays a German soldier assigned to duel Livesey's character who has defied his superiors and gone to Berlin to confront Kerr, who has written some negative letters regarding British involvement in South Africa.. Both men injure each other in the duel, which proves to be a stalemate, but as they recuperate in adjoining rooms at the same hospital, they strike up what becomes a lifelong friendship, despite having only interacted with each other face-to-face in times of conflict (Boer War, WW1, WW2). The only rub I have against this picture is its length. It's just over 2 and a half hours long, but because of its sweeping scope, that can be overlooked. I thought it interesting after the film that Ben Mankiewicz said Winston Churchill didn't like this picture because it painted Germany in a more positive light, thanks to Walbrook's portrayal. However, it was clearly displayed that Walbrook was an anti-Nazi who was dismayed about his own children becoming enamored with the Hitler government and how they were more than willing to follow him on a path of ultimate destruction of the German state. The film was heavily edited before it was released in the United States in 1945 (two years after it was shot). The restored version shown on TCM was the original form of the film that Churchill did not like. Like "Tunes of Glory", I too gave this an 8 out of 10 rating. All in all, a good way to spend a Thursday night! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Lori Ann Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I saw "The Reivers" with Steve McQueen from 1969. Watched it yesterday for the first time. It was good. Overall, to me, not much of a plot, but it was a good movie. Not sure why the opening credits said introducing Mitch Vogel, since he did "Your, Mine, and Ours" the year before. Lori 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LornaHansonForbes Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 53 minutes ago, speedracer5 said: I hated him in The Marrying Kind with Holliday. Am I missing something with that film? It basically turned me off of him completely. Is there a better film to see him in? He is a punch drunk boxer in PAT AND MIKE, but if you don’t like him in THE MARRYING KIND. you probably would not like him in this either also GODS LITTLE ACRE Link to post Share on other sites
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