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Eddie Mueller, Noir Host

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I really wish some of the daytime films had been on at night, to hear his take on them. Maybe next round (I hope there is one!)

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They don't use the term "rest home" anymore. It's either "nursing home", "continuing care community" or "enhanced care community".

 

Whatever it is today, it sure beats what they used to call this joint in upper NW Washington that was around until well into the second half of the 20th century, before changing its name to "The Washington Home" for obvious reasons.  We used to visit it every day during Summer vacations in the early 1960's because it was also the home of the last nickel Coke bottle machine.

 

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And then there was this.  At  least they didn't call it The Washington Bughouse. It's now just called St. Elizabeth's.

 

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I am loving Eddie Muller's intros and wish he would be on TCM more often.  Eddie and his Film Noir Foundation colleague Alan Rode are hugely responsible for my becoming a big noir fan as their enthusiasm at screenings is so contagious, it's helped make me a more adventurous viewer.  Love to see Eddie bringing that love for the genre to TCM!

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Whatever it is today, it sure beats what they used to call this joint in upper NW Washington that was around until well into the second half of the 20th century, before changing its name to "The Washington Home" for obvious reasons.  We used to visit it every day during Summer vacations in the early 1960's because it was also the home of the last nickel Coke bottle machine.

 

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And then there was this.  At  least they didn't call it The Washington Bughouse. It's now just called St. Elizabeth's.

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Speaking of St. Elizabeth's, I recall that place as "the nut house" when I was growing up in Md.  Here's some interesting info on it - some may find this a bit ironic.

 

Website HERE

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Agreed with the thoughts of other posters who can type more interesting replies than myself.  Eddie Muller is my new favorite "guest host" now. 

 

As far as who will be the next "most eligible" presenter in line, I think that question has been answered.

 

Be careful Eddie.  You may just find yourself in some sort of predicament you won't want to get out of. :D

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I like Eddie. He seems very relaxed, knowledgeable and at home as he speaks to us. More! More!

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I vote for Mr. Mueller also.

 

But for a womans' perspective a vote also for Jeanine Basinger, curator of the film archives at Wesleyan University doing intros, occasionally.

 

Or for Kim Basinger to do intros for at least one month (She won a Oscar for" L.A. Confidential" (1997)).

 

Or Lily Tomlin, who starred in "The Late Show" (1977)--she's been in a neo-noir, & is a very smart woman--she has been in film documentaries in the past, give her a chance at introducing noirs.

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Muller is quite knowledgeable about film noir and is okay on camera but In person that is another story.  I find him quite full of himself and its a  turn off for me seeing him live.    

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I am loving the festival of noir films that is currently on TCM, but it would appear that they really need a better host. Regardless of this person's connection to the subject matter, as a host he makes me nervous watching him as he monotonously introduces the films.

 

Let's face it, he's no Rod Serling or even John Cameron Swayze. Now if Zachary Scott were hosting I might be able to stomach these intros.

 

Mr. Mueller [or is it Muller?] also uses the same two hand movements, to emphasize all his points and it really distracts from what he is saying, so is detrimental anyway. He has only one facial expression and no inflection to his voice also.

 

I think that just like the men in noir films, who are always rather boring and wishy-washy, that the best noir host for a noir festival, would be a HOSTESS!

 

That's right, the only proper person to host noir films, would be from the sex that made them interesting to begin with...the female sex. I've never known a man who liked noir who was not a bit vanilla-ish and that is why such men are attracted to the noir films to begin with I would diagnose. But the women fans of noir, are a bit like their exciting prototypes on screen, which is why they are so much more fascinating.

 

Now if Jan Sterling or Lizbeth Scott were around, they would make the perfect hostess but since they aren't, pick someone who is more exciting than the current host, and could liven up the proceedings.

 

And always remember, the only good noir is one with a bad girl, which is true also for the hosting duties! Bland men just don't cut it. You can hate me for saying this, but as a noir girl...I have to tell it like it is as horrid as the true facts may be.

I colleague informed me that someone was talking s#$% about me on the TCM boards, so I was glad to see you were talking about some other guy named "Eddie Mueller," not me. Sorry this other guy makes you nervous... 

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My beef is that he calls himself the Czar of Noir, whereas everyone knows that title belongs to Akim Tamiroff!

 

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While he seems just a tad dry, if given time I'm sure he'd loosen up as "TV host" just as Ben M has. "Hosting" is a particular kind of "role" and as an audience, we have definite expectations of how a "host" should behave. 

 

But I agree...the empty set is just awful. A living room set, late night diner set, barroom set, ANYthing would have looked better and been more natural feeling than empty space.

 

Heck, if TCM could have afforded it, different sets could have illustrated his points; set in a bedroom Mueller could have discussed how beds were shown in movies as an "unwritten code for sex" and the like.

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While he seems just a tad dry, if given time I'm sure he'd loosen up as "TV host" just as Ben M has. "Hosting" is a particular kind of "role" and as an audience, we have definite expectations of how a "host" should behave. 

 

But I agree...the empty set is just awful. A living room set, late night diner set, barroom set, ANYthing would have looked better and been more natural feeling than empty space.

 

Heck, if TCM could have afforded it, different sets could have illustrated his points; set in a bedroom Mueller could have discussed how beds were shown in movies as an "unwritten code for sex" and the like.

..even a bathroom set with a toilet  in the background.

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..even a bathroom set with a toilet  in the background.

 

 

LOL.

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I am loving the festival of noir films that is currently on TCM, but it would appear that they really need a better host. Regardless of this person's connection to the subject matter, as a host he makes me nervous watching him as he monotonously introduces the films.

 

Let's face it, he's no Rod Serling or even John Cameron Swayze. Now if Zachary Scott were hosting I might be able to stomach these intros.

 

Mr. Mueller [or is it Muller?] also uses the same two hand movements, to emphasize all his points and it really distracts from what he is saying, so is detrimental anyway. He has only one facial expression and no inflection to his voice also.

 

I think that just like the men in noir films, who are always rather boring and wishy-washy, that the best noir host for a noir festival, would be a HOSTESS!

 

That's right, the only proper person to host noir films, would be from the sex that made them interesting to begin with...the female sex. I've never known a man who liked noir who was not a bit vanilla-ish and that is why such men are attracted to the noir films to begin with I would diagnose. But the women fans of noir, are a bit like their exciting prototypes on screen, which is why they are so much more fascinating.

 

Now if Jan Sterling or Lizbeth Scott were around, they would make the perfect hostess but since they aren't, pick someone who is more exciting than the current host, and could liven up the proceedings.

 

And always remember, the only good noir is one with a bad girl, which is true also for the hosting duties! Bland men just don't cut it. You can hate me for saying this, but as a noir girl...I have to tell it like it is as horrid as the true facts may be.

I think Eddie is wonderful.

 

I think TCM should fire RO and hire Eddie, who would be an excellent co-host with Ben.

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I think Eddie is wonderful.

 

I think TCM should fire RO and hire Eddie, who would be an excellent co-host with Ben.

Should they empty RO's desk and have him escorted out of the TCM building by security guards?

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I wasnt talking about infirm people. The private eye and femme fatale(s) would have to be able to get around or there wouldnt be any film. More like a golden age center (or whatever they call them now).......

 

Hmmmm...so Hibi, it sounds as if you've never seen the movie..THE OLD LADY IN THE SUN CITY LAKE (1978). eh?!

 

Yep, Robert Montgomery's very last film and once again as both director and lead actor, and in which he revisits the concept of the camera in the first-person format.

 

 

 

 

(...nah...just kiddin' of course...but it DOES kind'a sound like somethin' you're goin' for here, doesn't it?!) ;)

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i'm sure you'd make a good host too.Eddie_Muller :P  :lol:

I colleague informed me that someone was talking s#$% about me on the TCM boards, so I was glad to see you were talking about some other guy named "Eddie Mueller," not me. Sorry this other guy makes you nervous... 

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Eddie Muller has been a terrific host for TCM film noir presentations, in my opinion. He has great presence that is hardly vanilla  

However, a lady hostess could certainly be an interesting idea, as well (even though, as we all know, a dame is not to be trusted). Who knows, tales may come out of the TCM walls of studio techs that disappeared after succumbing to her seductive, husky voiced charms.

 

The problem is - where to find her? A bar? A street corner? A film noir convention? An Eddie Muller family get-together?

 

 

I agree that Eddie Muller is great, and I hope to see him more often on TCM.

 

As for the dame, I nominate movie/music critic Kim Morgan.   She and Eddie would make a great noir duo.  (And maybe she could persuade TCM to throw in the odd Guy Maddin film now and then.)

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Eddie Muller agree is great, if you can get a hold of the DVD commentaries for Crime Wave and The Lineup Muller is teamed with James Ellroy and their banter is hilarious.

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Hmmmm...so Hibi, it sounds as if you've never seen the movie..THE OLD LADY IN THE SUN CITY LAKE (1978). eh?!

 

Yep, Robert Montgomery's very last film and once again as both director and lead actor, and in which he revisits the concept of the camera in the first-person format.

 

 

 

 

(...nah...just kiddin' of course...but it DOES kind'a sound like somethin' you're goin' for here, doesn't it?!) ;)

 

 

No, sorry I missed that one! :D

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I colleague informed me that someone was talking s#$% about me on the TCM boards, so I was glad to see you were talking about some other guy named "Eddie Mueller," not me. Sorry this other guy makes you nervous... 

Eddie Mueller makes EVERYONE nervous. He'd be perfect as a noir heavy.......Incidentally, is there ANY film in which ALL the characters have as unattractive personalities as does GILDA?.

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Eddie Mueller makes EVERYONE nervous. He'd be perfect as a noir heavy.......Incidentally, is there ANY film in which ALL the characters have as unattractive personalities as does GILDA?.

 

Too Late for Tears comes close.

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I colleague informed me that someone was talking s#$% about me on the TCM boards, so I was glad to see you were talking about some other guy named "Eddie Mueller," not me. Sorry this other guy makes you nervous... 

Eddie Muller, are you very adept at introducing film noirs too? Would you make a good co-host for Ben M.? Do you make RO look like last week's milk?

 

By all means, we'll take anyone with a name even close to Eddie Mueller, since RO is a dinosaur and Eddie is a breath of fresh air.

 

Let me know where I can send my testimonial on your behalf. :lol:

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Eddie Muller, are you very adept at introducing film noirs too? Would you make a good co-host for Ben M.? Do you make RO look like last week's milk?

 

By all means, we'll take anyone with a name even close to Eddie Mueller, since RO is a dinosaur and Eddie is a breath of fresh air.

 

Let me know where I can send my testimonial on your behalf. :lol:

"A BREATH OF FRESH AIR" give me a break. Has anyone seen this guy in person? He is pretty stiff on camera too. Not a bit of warmth there. Three cheers for Osborne and Mankiewicz.

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