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Nothing more fun than watching an old movie and thinking that someone's nose or other feature looks a bit different than what one has been used to.

 

Now imagine my disappointment, after watching "Grease" and finding out that Edd Byrnes, the youthful star of 77 Sunset Strip and other teen classics, had not only had a name change but a nose change! And there were even photos on the Net from the Confidential days.

 

Another guy who looked a heck of a lot more attractive, after surgery was Alex Cord. I wonder if that was what made Joanne Pettet marry him.

 

We all know that Danny Thomas, Jimmy Durante and Tiny Tim never had nose jobs though Mrs, Calabash might have preferred one, but I think that even someone as lovely as Rhonda Fleming had one, as she looked a bit different in that film where she played a nymphomaniac.

 

Marilyn surely had one, as they removed a bump or something and it looked really different in that recent TCM showing of the chorus girl movie.

 

I used to think Peter O'Toole had one or maybe Morgan Fairchild but I have come to believe some people actually do just have chiseled noses like that.

 

Hollywood is full of horrid facelifts like those of Mary Pickford or Lucy, but occasionally even the men get them and ruin their looks like Jack Lemmon. Why, Jack why???

Probably the most infamous nose job in Hollywood history is that of noted Mercury Theatre alumnus, Everett Sloane. You see his real nose in Citizen Kane, but later he had most of that rather cute proboscis trimmed down and never looked the same again. On top of that, he always looked angry and it was said among the cognescenti that he could never look in the mirror again and I think he later committed suicide.

 

Yes, a bad nose job is a grievous thing, but which are your favorites?

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No, dear fellow lover of Errol [in Like Flynn] Flynn!

You are confusing her with Shelley Winters, who said they would put rubber bands under her chin and then put a wig on her, for a temporary facelift.
 

Didn't you ever notice that Lucy's eyebrows just kept getting higher and higher?

 

Thanks for your idea though...

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No, dear fellow lover of Errol [in Like Flynn] Flynn!

 

You are confusing her with Shelley Winters, who said they would put rubber bands under her chin and then put a wig on her, for a temporary facelift.

 

Didn't you ever notice that Lucy's eyebrows just kept getting higher and higher?

 

Thanks for your idea though...

No. I'm not confusing Lucy with Shelley Winters. Starting in the 3rd episode of "The Lucy Desi Comedy Hour," she started wearing wigs to cover the tape (it was tape, not strings) that was pulling her wrinkles. She liked how she looked and from then on, always wore the tape facelift apparatus and a wig. She was terrified of plastic surgery. As for her eyebrows, she always drew them on. She had shaved off her original eyebrows when she came out to Hollywood to appear as a slave girl in 1933's "Roman Scandals." Her eyebrows never grew back properly.
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Not that she's a star by any means, or even talented, but Ashlee Simpson's nose job made her look a million times better. She had an awful 'bump nose."

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No. I'm not confusing Lucy with Shelley Winters. Starting in the 3rd episode of "The Lucy Desi Comedy Hour," she started wearing wigs to cover the tape (it was tape, not strings) that was pulling her wrinkles. She liked how she looked and from then on, always wore the tape facelift apparatus and a wig. She was terrified of plastic surgery. As for her eyebrows, she always drew them on. She had shaved off her original eyebrows when she came out to Hollywood to appear as a slave girl in 1933's "Roman Scandals." Her eyebrows never grew back properly.

Learn something new everyday.

 

I remember that last debacle of a show Lucy did in the 80's, that camera was so far away, you could barely tell it was her running around the set. That must have been another trick to hide Lucy's aged face.

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I do not agree with the idea of people altering their faces just because they think they don't fit a certain arbitrary societal aesthetic as to what "beauty" is. If everyone who had what is considered an "imperfect" nose underwent rhinoplasty, then we'd have a boringly homogenous world full of flawless faces that all look the same.

 

I'm not a particular fan of Sarah Jessica Parker, but one thing I've always liked and respected her for is her steadfast refusal to get a nose job. She's not beautiful by Hollywood's predictable standards, but she is attractive, in a unique way. And she doesn't look like everyone else, that's for sure.

 

Another well-known actress who clearly made the decision not to go the rhinoplasty route is Angelica Huston. And yet this woman is sexy and beautiful.

 

In France they have this concept called "jolie-laide", meaning, literally, "beautiful-ugly". Basically it's about realizing that physical attractiveness comes in many varieties, not all of them conforming to a standard arbitrary notion of beauty.

 

Here's a wiki definition of "jolie-laide". I wrote the above before reading it and its mention of Angelica Huston.

 

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Jolie laide

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 

Jolie laide (English translation: "beautiful ugly") is the French expression used to describe someone who is unconventionally beautiful. Snaggle teeth, a bump in the nose, closely set eyes are just a few examples of unconventional physical traits, which some might view as deformities, that are embraced under the notion of jolie laide. Although the concept of jolie laide recognizes that men act and women appear (as the writer John Berger once put it), it also recognizes that behind the visceral image lies an internal life.[1] As the literary critic Daphne Merkin put it, jolie laide is "a triumph of personality over physiognomy, the imposition of substance over surface."[1]

It is unclear when and where the term arose in French culture. Some have surmised that the term comes out of Serge Gainsbourg's song "Laide Jolie Laide."[2]

Celebrities commonly thought to encapsulate this notion include: Anjelica Huston whose "regal asymmetry defies the norms of magazine 'pretty'";[3] Sofia Coppola with her "introspective, girl-in-a-Vermeer-painting aura rather than the paint-by-numbers cheerleader vibe of Lindsay Lohan.";[1] Charlotte Gainsbourg with her "melancholic air and the vaguely awkward way she inhabits her lanky body".

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There's  an old Twilight Zone episode about this, "Number 12 Looks Just Like You." Here's a couple of links, one to an article about the show, and another to the episode itself.

 

By the way, my own nose is quite average,it's not large, or bumpy, or whatever else is regarded as "ugly". Just so people won't think I have an ulterior motive in my opinion on this.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_12_Looks_Just_Like_You

 

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Streisand has done just fine and dandy without going under the knife, so add her to her list of celebrities to respect for knowing who she is, realizing how beautiful she is and understanding that her talent and not messing with that voice was worth more than conforming to what Hollywood considers beautiful. Gotta respect that self confidence.

 

My boyfriend has always felt Jennifer Grey looked better with her original nose (Dirty Dancing) than the nose a doctor gave her. She's pretty both ways.

 

I don't have a problem with anyone changing their natural looks, if someone needs to boast their self-confidence and that makes them happier that's fine. Just in case it turns out we're all here on Earth once, why not be as comfortable in your own skin as possible. It's an individuals choice. It's the crazy, money hungry drs like the ones that operated on Michael Jackson that I have a big problem with.

 

My younger daughter tells me that many of the young women she knows have had breast implants, where they are a size 2 and have a D cup, botox shots and fillers thinking that the younger they start the longer they will avoid lines in their faces and they are only 30 years old. That I think is sad.

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...In France they have this concept called "jolie-laide", meaning, literally, "beautiful-ugly". Basically it's about realizing that physical attractiveness comes in many varieties, not all of them conforming to a standard arbitrary notion of beauty.

 

 

AND, which once again reminds ME of that time on SNL years ago when Dennis Miller was the Weekend Update anchor, and while telling of Gerald Depardieu's latest little run-in with the French police they showed a picture of the french actor behind him. AND, after Miller got through "reporting" that story, he turned around and looked at that picture...

 

Gerard-Depardieu-tourne-un-film-au-Salon

 

..and said...

 

"Hmmm...so THAT'S 'France's biggest male sex symbol', huh?! Well, NOW I think I'm beginning to understand why they think Jerry Lewis is such a 'comic genius' over there!"

 

LOL

 

(...yeah yeah, I know I've told this one before, BUT every damn time I think of this, it STILL cracks me up!!!)

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...Gerard was not bad looking as a young man, even though he

always had that big snoze. From the little I've read about him,

it seems he led a life of some dissipation, as they might have

said in the old days, and that has aged him more than usual.

Lost that fresh rosy complexion. Put on a lot of weight too.

 

OR, as I understand they would say in France..."Le Monsieur, he become ze bigge faut sloub."

 

(...but then again, I'm not all that well versed in that there Frenchy-type talk ya know, and so I COULD be a mite off on this here translation)

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Charles Lane had a real beak in the early 30's, but had it straightened out.

 

WAIT! Are we talkin' "Charles Lane", as in that grumpy and lemon-faced guy who tells old man Potter that George Bailey is hornin' in on his business to such a degree that he better be wary of him? THAT guy?

 

Gee, I gotta wonder why he even bothered with the nose job?

 

(...I mean, it's not like the guy looks-wise was exactly leading man material otherwise, ya know!)

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Streisand has done just fine and dandy without going under the knife, so add her to her list of celebrities to respect for knowing who she is, realizing how beautiful she is and understanding that her talent and not messing with that voice was worth more than conforming to what Hollywood considers beautiful. Gotta respect that self confidence.

 

My boyfriend has always felt Jennifer Grey looked better with her original nose (Dirty Dancing) than the nose a doctor gave her. She's pretty both ways.

 

Streisand didn't touch that knife because it would alter her voice and that's her bread and butter. I don't know if that's heroic or not.

 

Jennifer Grey is the poster child for what a nose job can do. The job is fine but, it ruined her career because even her friends didn't recognize her walking down the street.

 

Its off topic but, I feel the same way when a woman gets sudden stardom. And the first thing they do is starve themselves into a stick figure. I never understood the desire to be like everyone else. I'd rather be unique.

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I'm not a particular fan of Sarah Jessica Parker, but one thing I've always liked and respected her for is her steadfast refusal to get a nose job. She's not beautiful by Hollywood's predictable standards, but she is attractive, in a unique way. And she doesn't look like everyone else, that's for sure.

 

 

 

I believe SJP has had a nosejob. Several before and after pictures of SJP on the internet and it appears that she indeed did have rhinoplasty.

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Streisand didn't touch that knife because it would alter her voice and that's her bread and butter. I don't know if that's heroic or not.

 

Jennifer Grey is the poster child for what a nose job can do. The job is fine but, it ruined her career because even her friends didn't recognize her walking down the street.

 

Its off topic but, I feel the same way when a woman gets sudden stardom. And the first thing they do is starve themselves into a stick figure. I never understood the desire to be like everyone else. I'd rather be unique.

That's what I said. Streisand knew that preserving her beautiful voice was more important than conforming to a beauty standard.And I didn't say it was heroic. I don't think Jennifer Grey's nose job ruined her career, all it did was alter her appearance.

If she was going to be typecast as a girl with a nose that was not short and straight and upturned, then her career was not going to be all that big anyway. Friends recognizing her has nothing to do with her being cast in roles or having a career.

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I do not agree with the idea of people altering their faces just because they think they don't fit a certain arbitrary societal aesthetic as to what "beauty" is. If everyone who had what is considered an "imperfect" nose underwent rhinoplasty, then we'd have a boringly homogenous world full of flawless faces that all look the same.

 

I'm not a particular fan of Sarah Jessica Parker, but one thing I've always liked and respected her for is her steadfast refusal to get a nose job. She's not beautiful by Hollywood's predictable standards, but she is attractive, in a unique way. And she doesn't look like everyone else, that's for sure.

 

Another well-known actress who clearly made the decision not to go the rhinoplasty route is Angelica Huston. And yet this woman is sexy and beautiful.

 

In France they have this concept called "jolie-laide", meaning, literally, "beautiful-ugly". Basically it's about realizing that physical attractiveness comes in many varieties, not all of them conforming to a standard arbitrary notion of beauty.

 

Here's a wiki definition of "jolie-laide". I wrote the above before reading it and its mention of Angelica Huston.

 

___________________________________________________________________________-

 

Jolie laide

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 

Jolie laide (English translation: "beautiful ugly") is the French expression used to describe someone who is unconventionally beautiful. Snaggle teeth, a bump in the nose, closely set eyes are just a few examples of unconventional physical traits, which some might view as deformities, that are embraced under the notion of jolie laide. Although the concept of jolie laide recognizes that men act and women appear (as the writer John Berger once put it), it also recognizes that behind the visceral image lies an internal life.[1] As the literary critic Daphne Merkin put it, jolie laide is "a triumph of personality over physiognomy, the imposition of substance over surface."[1]

It is unclear when and where the term arose in French culture. Some have surmised that the term comes out of Serge Gainsbourg's song "Laide Jolie Laide."[2]

Celebrities commonly thought to encapsulate this notion include: Anjelica Huston whose "regal asymmetry defies the norms of magazine 'pretty'";[3] Sofia Coppola with her "introspective, girl-in-a-Vermeer-painting aura rather than the paint-by-numbers cheerleader vibe of Lindsay Lohan.";[1] Charlotte Gainsbourg with her "melancholic air and the vaguely awkward way she inhabits her lanky body".

 

Calling Anjelica Huston sexy and beautiful is political correctness gone haywire. This coming from YOU is especially surprising.

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Not a classic actress but, Halle Berry has built a fine career with a new nose. I was watching an old film called (Boomerang 1992) and I couldn't stop staring at her nose    :D

 

Halle-Berry-Plastic-Surgery-Nose-Job.jpg

I much prefer her old nose, which is less, beak-like.

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Calling Anjelica Huston sexy and beautiful is political correctness gone haywire. This coming from YOU is especially surprising.

 

I am not in the least "politically correct". I've always felt this way about the pressure on people, especially women, to alter their faces in order to conform to a bland, standardized concept of beauty. And if you'd read my post carefully, you would have seen that my whole point was that women  (and men) can look attractive and yes, sexy, even if they look different from everybody else. That was why I mentioned that concept of the "jolie laide".

 

Here's a pic of the lady looking pretty darn good- of course, I think this shot might have been for a fashion shot.

 

anjelica.jpg

 

You once expressed surprise that I did not find Warren Beatty attractive. I still don't- I'd take Tommy Lee Jones over Mr. Beatty any day.

What can I say? It's as much about how a person projects themselves, their personality, their eyes, whether they have an intelligent-looking face  or not ( now please don't go "You think Warren Beatty looks dumb?" because I don't...) - things like that count as much if not more for me than traditional good looks.

But then, I've always thought Richard Widmark was sexy. 

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I am not in the least "politically correct". I've always felt this way about the pressure on people, especially women, to alter their faces in order to conform to a bland, standardized concept of beauty. And if you'd read my post carefully, you would have seen that my whole point was that women  (and men) can look attractive and yes, sexy, even if they look different from everybody else. That was why I mentioned that concept of the "jolie laide".

 

Here's a pic of the lady looking pretty darn good- of course, I think this shot might have been for a fashion shot.

 

anjelica.jpg

 

You once expressed surprise that I did not find Warren Beatty attractive. I still don't- I'd take Tommy Lee Jones over Mr. Beatty any day.

What can I say? It's as much about how a person projects themselves, their personality, their eyes, whether they have an intelligent-looking face  or not ( now please don't go "You think Warren Beatty looks dumb?" because I don't...) - things like that count as much if not more for me than traditional good looks.

But then, I've always thought Richard Widmark was sexy. 

By "jolie laide", I thought you meant that Angelina Jolie got laid...........You think Ms. Huston looks good in this photo? I want the name of your ophthalmologist.

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