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Or "Where Love Has Gone"--Susan, Bette Davis, & Joey Heatherton--a film lovers' dream (or nightmare).

 

 

LOL. More like a nightmare, but you can feel the hate onscreen between Hayward and Davis. It does have nice production values, I'll give it that, and some campy moments........

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LOL. More like a nightmare, but you can feel the hate onscreen between Hayward and Davis. It does have nice production values, I'll give it that, and some campy moments........

Wow. Joey Heatherton is really out of her acting element here. That's like a singing trio of Pavarotti, Placido Domingo, and Justin Bieber.

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Or "Where Love Has Gone"--Susan, Bette Davis, & Joey Heatherton--a film lovers' dream (or nightmare).

I might have to record this one just for the cast.  However, the plot sounds mediocre.  Add Jane Greer, DeForest Kelly, Mike Connors, Anne Seymore, Willis Bouchey, Whit Bissel.

Wikipedia has an interesting article with reviews of the movie.

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Wow. Joey Heatherton is really out of her acting element here. That's like a singing trio of Pavarotti, Placido Domingo, and Justin Bieber.

I think Heatherton is more capable than Bieber.  Of course if you were in the military in late '60's and early '70's Joey Heaterton made a lot of appearances, either live or in magazines.

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But Hayward does get to vent on that portrait--& Heatherton can't act (that helps? hurts?)  

 

 

True. LOL!

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I might have to record this one just for the cast.  However, the plot sounds mediocre.  Add Jane Greer, DeForest Kelly, Mike Connors, Anne Seymore, Willis Bouchey, Whit Bissel.

Wikipedia has an interesting article with reviews of the movie.

 

 

The film sounds more tawdry than it is. Lots of laughable dialog. I found most of it pretty boring. Only good scenes are the scenes with Bette and Susan going at it for the most part. They wanted Bette to go mad in this one at the end, but she refused to come back and shoot the scene. (they took her to court and lost! LOL)

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Other films tonight as part of the last night of Susan Hayward's SOTM (wow, really?!), which don't seem to have been mentioned here include BACK STREET, STOLEN HOURS and THE HONEY POT.

 

BACK STREET ks the old chestnut, done for a third time. This time, the Hayward character is much more successful, and is abke to afford a jet-set lifestyle. This is another of Ross Hunter's productions from the late 50s.and early 60s, giving old style glamour and old time.glamorous.movie stars, often in a remake of a women's melodrama.

 

STOLEN HOURS is a remake of Bette Davis' classic DARK VICTORY, and Hayward.daring to do it is one of the reasons that there was animosity awhile later.on the set of WHERE LOVE IS GONE.

 

THE HONEY POT is late,.but not great Joseph Mankiewicz. Susan is in one of three revolving stories, filmed in Italy. Her beloved husband died while she was filming, which is how she remembered the film. The fact that a substantial portion was cut, when it was finally released,.probabluly contributed to this feeling.

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But Hayward does get to vent on that portrait--& Heatherton can't act (that helps? hurts?)  

Heatherton was in an Episode of Route 66 in 1960 (Three Sides) and I think did a fairly credible job of acting.

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Wow. Joey Heatherton is really out of her acting element here. That's like a singing trio of Pavarotti, Placido Domingo, and Justin Bieber.

 

Yes, but Pavarotti was never a centerfold.

 

 I love Neely!

 

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This GIF illustrates my biggest issue with VALLEY OF THE DOLLS, which is that Barbara Perkins and her character are so damned BORING! It is unforgiveable that the story devotes so much time to her in the end when, seriously, a department store mannequin may as well be playing the part (and probably has in any number of gay community theater reenactments.)

 

And seriously, at the wave of a hand, you just go from being a career secretary to a famous international hair spokesmodel overnight?

 

Seriously?

 

And please don't think I'm belittling secretaries, I'm not...I just think a famous international hair spokesmodel should rise up through the ranks and not just be plucked from obscurity! Girl didn't even ride the float or anything before BAM! International Hair Spokesmodel, at your service....straight from answering the phone and typing letters, no Star Search or anything....

 

ps- I seem to recall a sequence in VALLEY OF THE DOLLS that follows her abrupt transition from office girl to international hair spokesmodel, and it includes some pretty damned funny and VERY sixties hair on some ladies. A highlight of the film. I can only imagine the inches it took off the ozone layer to get everyone ready.

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Yes, but Pavarotti was never a centerfold.

 

 

 

this GIF illustrates the biggest issue with VALLEY OF THE DOLLS, which is that Barbara Perkins and her character are so damned BORING! It is unforgiveable that the story devotes so much time to her in the end when, seriously, a department store mannequin may as well be playing the part (and probably has in any number of gay community theater reenactments.)

 

And seriously, at the wave of a hand, you just go from being a career secretary to a famous international hair spokesmodel overnight?

 

Seriously?

 

And please don't think I'm belittling secretaries, I'm not...I just think an international hair spokesmodel should rise up through the ranks and not just be plucked from obscurity! Girl didn't even ride the float or anything before BAM! International Hair Spokesmodel, at your service....straight from answering the phone and typing letters.

 

 

LOL. I agree her parts of the story are the most boring. But it isnt entirely her fault. Terrible writing and dialog. And that sappy ending! A total rewrite from the book which ends up unhappy for her (no storybook ending).........

 

And stuck with Paul Burke as her love interest! HOW did he EVER get that part????

 

The budget for wigs and falls in this film  must've been in the 5 figure range at least!!! I hate that pulled back and fall on the top look so popular at the time........

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LOL. I agree her parts of the story are the most boring. But it isnt entirely her fault. Terrible writing and dialog. And that sappy ending! A total rewrite from the book which ends up unhappy for her (no storybook ending).........

 

The budget for wigs and falls in this film  must've been in the 5 figure range at least!!! I hate that pulled back and fall on the top look so popular at the time........

 

what happens to her in the book?

 

You could never get in a good girlfight with someone wearing a fall. It was like a lizard's tail, just grab it and it pulls off and they run away.

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Parkins+Valley+of+the+Dolls.jpg

 

"yes, yes, it's just me, International Hair Spokesmodel Barbara Perkins, here to inconspicuously visit my hometown in a $45,000 floor-length mink and eighteen inches of hair. Nothing to see. Move on, move on. No paparazzi, no photos..."

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I'm pretty sure it is. It's been run on other networks..........

I just looked in the Now Playing guide and it doesn't indicate it's a premiere. I'm pretty sure it's been on TCM in the past. I just don't know exactly when.

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I just looked in the Now Playing guide and it doesn't indicate it's a premiere. I'm pretty sure it's been on TCM in the past. I just don't know exactly when.

did you check the 'center section'? :)

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did you check the 'center section'? :)

I guess I didn't because it says it there, but not in today's schedule or in the alphabetical list.

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But Hayward does get to vent on that portrait--& Heatherton can't act (that helps? hurts?)  

 

Joey Heatherton didn't have to act.

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Wow.

THE MARRIAGE-GO-ROUND is terrible.

 

Wow,  I found it rather funny and entertaining.   OK,  much of that is driven by Julie Newmar.   But I was surprised by the performances of Mason and Hayward (I expected worst based on what I had heard about the film).    To me only the ending dragged but hey, in this type of marriage go round type film,  getting to the ending we all know is going to happen,  often does drag.

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Is VALLEY OF THE DOLLS Really a TCM premiere? Seems.I have seen it on the station before in the not too distant past, unless I'm confusing this with FMC.

 

I was confident Valley of the Dolls was a premiere, until in his into, Mr. B said it was.

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Wow,  I found it rather funny and entertaining.   OK,  much of that is driven by Julie Newmar.   But I was surprised by the performances of Mason and Hayward (I expected worst based on what I had heard about the film).    To me only the ending dragged but hey, in this type of marriage go round type film,  getting to the ending we all know is going to happen,  often does drag.

 

Hmmm.

 

I just found the whole thing static and stagey and I can't recall a single laugh or line of funny dialogue. The film presents us with this strange, comedic scenario, but then doesn't do or say or build anything on it that is funny in any way.

 

Newmar was terrific though, it's a shame her film career never took off. She was so convincingly Swedish and didn't even look like herself, if not for her height, I wouldn't have even guessed it was her.

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Hayward & her VOTD performance (and pantsuit) ;)

 

http://moviemorlocks.com/2015/09/24/the-power-of-the-pantsuit/

 

An interesting article and some good pics to accompany it.

 

I find it noteworthy that the piece starts with this quote: “What we have here is a dirty soap opera. It is dirty because it intends to be, but it is a soap opera only by default. It tries to raise itself to the level of sophisticated pornography, but fails.” – Roger Ebert, Chicago Sun Times

 

The Russ Meyer-directed sequel to VALLEY OF THE DOLLS came out ca. 1970. Unlike its predecessor, it did in fact garner an "X-Rating" and is regarded by many as even worse than the original.

 

The screenplay was written by one Roger Ebert (his one and only that was ever produced.)

 

Roger Ebert - 178 lbs. =  Rex Reed

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