Sukhov Posted October 28, 2018 https://www.rt.com/news/442318-austria-mohammed-child-marriage/ Austrian lecture slamming Prophet Mohammed for marrying 6yo is hate speech – EU court The European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) has ruled that an Austrian lecturer is guilty of disparaging Islam, after the woman likened the Prophet Mohammed to a pedophile for marrying a six-year-old girl. The lecturer known only as Mrs E.S. had already been convicted by an Austrian judge and fined €480 ($548) for her lecture. And now the ECtHR has upheld the ruling. The Strasbourg-based seven-judge panel stated on Thursday that her comparing Prophet Mohammed to a pedophile goes “beyond the permissible limits of an objective debate,” and that the Austrian court was right in “classifying them as an abusive attack which could stir up prejudice and threaten religious peace.” The woman had unsuccessfully appealed the decision to the Austrian Supreme Court before taking her case to the ECtHR. She argued that what the court saw as inflammatory remarks insulting the Islamic faith was meant to reignite a public debate on child marriages. She hosted “Basic Information on Islam” seminars in 2008 and 2009, during which she lectured the members of the right-wing Freedom Party (FPO) on the principles of the Islamic religion and its key figures. During one of her lectures, Mrs E.S. stated that marrying prepubescent girls makes Prophet Mohammad no different than a child predator. “A 56-year-old and a six-year old?... What do we call it, if it is not pedophilia?” the woman reportedly said, referring to the marriage between the Prophet and Aisha, who is believed to have been six or seven when the marriage was arranged, and nine when it was consummated. Some modern scholars, however, dispute that timeline, arguing that Aisha was at least 15 at the time. When convicting Mrs E.S. of deprecating religion, the ECtHR pointed out that it had “comprehensively assessed the wider context” of her statement and “carefully balanced her right to freedom of expression with the right of others to have their religious feelings protected.” The panel argued that the expressions the woman used to describe Prophet Muhammed were “not phrased in the neutral manner” and thus cannot be considered a legitimate contribution to the public debate on the sensitive topic of child marriages. The court also dismissed the lecturer’s claim that the Austrian courts failed to consider the subject matter of her statements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sukhov Posted November 11, 2018 https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/10/neo-nazi-faction-of-german-sas-plotted-to-kill-politicians-and-immigrants-8124688/ Neo-Nazi faction of German SAS ‘plotted to kill politicians and immigrants’ German authorities have reportedly uncovered a secret army of 200 soldiers who planned on murdering immigrants and political figures in the country. The group are allegedly a neo-Nazi faction within the Bundeswehr’s KSK – the equivalent of the SAS. They reportedly planned to unleash terror on the ominous code-named ‘Day X’ – and kill Green Party leader Claudia Roth, foreign minister Heiko Mass and former president Joachim Gauck. According to Berlin weekly Focus, the soldiers also had numerous leaders of asylum groups in their sights, who they blamed for issues within Germany. Trump threatens to stop giving money to people fighting wildfires Death squads reportedly planned to try and lure them and other left-wingers to remote locations, where they would then be assassinated. The group hold the Germany’s one million refugees, given the green light by Angela Merkel in 2015, responsible for rapes, terror and social unrest in the country. Day X would allegedly be unleashed once law and order collapsed – something the group regarded as ‘imminent’. Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/10/neo-nazi-faction-of-german-sas-plotted-to-kill-politicians-and-immigrants-8124688/?ito=cbshare Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamradio Posted November 11, 2018 On 10/28/2018 at 6:01 PM, Gershwin fan said: https://www.rt.com/news/442318-austria-mohammed-child-marriage/ Austrian lecture slamming Prophet Mohammed for marrying 6yo is hate speech – EU court The European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) has ruled that an Austrian lecturer is guilty of disparaging Islam, after the woman likened the Prophet Mohammed to a pedophile for marrying a six-year-old girl. The lecturer known only as Mrs E.S. had already been convicted by an Austrian judge and fined €480 ($548) for her lecture. And now the ECtHR has upheld the ruling. The Strasbourg-based seven-judge panel stated on Thursday that her comparing Prophet Mohammed to a pedophile goes “beyond the permissible limits of an objective debate,” and that the Austrian court was right in “classifying them as an abusive attack which could stir up prejudice and threaten religious peace.” The woman had unsuccessfully appealed the decision to the Austrian Supreme Court before taking her case to the ECtHR. She argued that what the court saw as inflammatory remarks insulting the Islamic faith was meant to reignite a public debate on child marriages. She hosted “Basic Information on Islam” seminars in 2008 and 2009, during which she lectured the members of the right-wing Freedom Party (FPO) on the principles of the Islamic religion and its key figures. During one of her lectures, Mrs E.S. stated that marrying prepubescent girls makes Prophet Mohammad no different than a child predator. “A 56-year-old and a six-year old?... What do we call it, if it is not pedophilia?” the woman reportedly said, referring to the marriage between the Prophet and Aisha, who is believed to have been six or seven when the marriage was arranged, and nine when it was consummated. Some modern scholars, however, dispute that timeline, arguing that Aisha was at least 15 at the time. When convicting Mrs E.S. of deprecating religion, the ECtHR pointed out that it had “comprehensively assessed the wider context” of her statement and “carefully balanced her right to freedom of expression with the right of others to have their religious feelings protected.” The panel argued that the expressions the woman used to describe Prophet Muhammed were “not phrased in the neutral manner” and thus cannot be considered a legitimate contribution to the public debate on the sensitive topic of child marriages. The court also dismissed the lecturer’s claim that the Austrian courts failed to consider the subject matter of her statements At least Mohammad followers can't follow in his footsteps. Cardiff Koran teacher jailed for child sex abuse https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-40531730 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Princess of Tap Posted November 11, 2018 3 hours ago, jakeem said: USA TODAY's The OvalVerified account@TheOval Macron, world leaders rebuke 'nationalism' at World War I event attended by Trump by @djusatoday https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/11/macron-world-leaders-rebuke-nationalism-world-war-event-attended-trump/1966474002/ 3 hours ago, jakeem said: Monica AlbaVerified account@albamonica Macron just steps away from Trump: “Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism. Nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism. By saying our interests first... we erase what a nation holds dearest, what gives it life, what gives it grace, and what is essential: its moral values.” With his comment on nationalism, Macron followed in the footsteps of France's greatest leader of the 20th century, who would lead France in peace and war, Charles de Gaulle. This is de Gaulle's famous quote about nationalism: " Patriotism is when Love of your own people comes first; Nationalism, when Hate of people other than your own comes first." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Princess of Tap Posted November 11, 2018 4 hours ago, jakeem said: Michael BeschlossVerified account @BeschlossDC In the Paris rain, May 1961, JFK and de Gaulle honor soldiers who gave their lives: An American president who truly understood his responsibility of office and who truly understood the sacrifices of Americans at War because he himself was a World War II hero. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Princess of Tap Posted November 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, jakeem said: Mark LowenVerified account@marklowen Extraordinary front pages from #France, 100 years since the guns fell silent on the western front: “Why #Trump threatens us” and “#Macron’s other front”. War may be a distant memory in this country but the postwar western liberal order and traditional alliances feel a new threat. 46 minutes ago, jakeem said: Nicholas Burns @RNicholasBurns Nicholas Burns Retweeted Mark Lowen A sad moment for Americans when our President is held in such low regard in allied countries on this solemn day. But after dissing the EU, NATO, Merkel, May, London Mayor Sadiq Khan and many others, what else could Donald Trump expect? trump looks as though he became president to further his own Financial/ business goals, rather than to work for the benefit of all Americans and for the Legacy of the Free World. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
