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new dangerous israeli-palestinian violence flare-up


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so here's kerry tryin' to set up a meeting with netanyahu...quickly. he's gotta get a handle on this flare-up real quick. we can't have obama looking anymore incompetent than he already does. is that what kerry's thinking? schtootz. obama and kerry will scapegoat the israelis of course. that's their idea of supporting israel. :)

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I think it best for the U.S. to NOT get involved any more with the middle East quagmire.  Those folks will NEVER be happy even if they DID get their way.

 

It's just their nature.

 

Just seeing the way things get handled over there and based on what criteria is why I shiver everytime some half-wit comes up with the notion that THIS COUNTRY would be better off if it was MORE "faith based".

 

 

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I think it best for the U.S. to NOT get involved any more with the middle East quagmire.  Those folks will NEVER be happy even if they DID get their way.

 

It's just their nature.

 

Just seeing the way things get handled over there and based on what criteria is why I shiver everytime some half-wit comes up with the notion that THIS COUNTRY would be better off if it was MORE "faith based".

 

 

Sepiatone

 

Yes,  both parties are getting what they want here.    

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I think it best for the U.S. to NOT get involved any more with the middle East quagmire.  Those folks will NEVER be happy even if they DID get their way.

 

It's just their nature.

 

Just seeing the way things get handled over there and based on what criteria is why I shiver everytime some half-wit comes up with the notion that THIS COUNTRY would be better off if it was MORE "faith based".

 

 

Sepiatone

trouble is anything that the liberal american politician knows his hyper-ideologic rationale cannot realistically or effectively address is a 'quagmire'.

 

typical pass-the-buck defeatism of the left. maybe that is why obama is planning to endow his succcessor with the isis threat. nice. :D

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Hard to see how Obama or Kerry has anything to do with

what is basically an internal Israeli issue.

 

I would advise the Palestinians to concentrate their firepower

or knife power on the West Bank. That is the area that most

poses a threat to any future Palestinian state. So if they don't

want to end up like the American Indians living on reservations,

and likely without the promise of casinos in the future, they'd

better step up their resistance. I would also advise them to

replace knives with guns.

then why does kerry wanna meet with netanyahu?...it's an internal israeli affair. :D

 

the israelis are not the bad guys. the man was a 19-year old from the west bank, had a knife and refused to obey orders shouted at him by the israeli guards which gave them no choice but to shoot the stupid suicidal bleep. :D

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then why does kerry wanna meet with netanyahu?...it's an internal israeli affair. :D

 

the israelis are not the bad guys. the man was a 19-year old from the west bank, had a knife and refused to obey orders shouted at him by the israeli guards which gave them no choice but to shoot the stupid suicidal bleep. :D

Natanyahu is a graduate of Cheltenham High School, in the Philly suburbs.

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so here's kerry tryin' to set up a meeting with netanyahu...quickly. he's gotta get a handle on this flare-up real quick. we can't have obama looking anymore incompetent than he already does. is that what kerry's thinking? schtootz. obama and kerry will scapegoat the israelis of course. that's their idea of supporting israel. :)

Nipkow, I sometimes think you go through the news headlines to get ideas for threads to start here.  You missed one -- Rupert Murdoch's New York Post featured this big story today:

 

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the israelis are not the bad guys. the man was a 19-year old from the west bank, had a knife and refused to obey orders shouted at him by the israeli guards which gave them no choice but to shoot the stupid suicidal bleep. :D

Not exactly an appropriate place for the :D  symbol.  If either side wants to  ever achieve any kind of peace and stability they have to make an effort to tone down the violence.  Was it  absolutely necessary to gun a man down when he had a knife?  Maybe, but only as a last resort.

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Not exactly an appropriate place for the :D  symbol.  If either side wants to  ever achieve any kind of peace and stability they have to make an effort to tone down the violence.  Was it  absolutely necessary to gun a man down when he had a knife?  Maybe, but only as a last resort.

 

A knife will make one just as dead as a gun 

 

Even a sword, so...

 

 

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Not exactly an appropriate place for the :D  symbol.  If either side wants to  ever achieve any kind of peace and stability they have to make an effort to tone down the violence.  Was it  absolutely necessary to gun a man down when he had a knife?  Maybe, but only as a last resort.

obviously the young man was committing martyrdom. breaks away from border guards with his hands raised high showing the knife.

 

no doubt he wanted to instigate a new intifada. radical christians doan fanatically run around committing reckless suicide like that, only radical muslims.

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Not exactly an appropriate place for the :D  symbol.  If either side wants to  ever achieve any kind of peace and stability they have to make an effort to tone down the violence.  Was it  absolutely necessary to gun a man down when he had a knife?  Maybe, but only as a last resort.

 

I have a different take on these type of situations;  in order to achieve any kind of peace and stability the violence has to increase.   Since the level of violence and deaths are manageable, for both side,  neither side feels a need to compromise and the conflict goes on and on.     The proof for this theory is in the results;  neither side wants peace, because if they did,   there would be peace by now.

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I have a different take on these type of situations;  in order to achieve any kind of peace and stability the violence has to increase.   Since the level of violence and deaths are manageable, for both side,  neither side feels a need to compromise and the conflict goes on and on.     The proof for this theory is in the results;  neither side wants peace, because if they did,   there would be peace by now.

I think israel wants peace...but how do you achieve it when you're surrounded on all sides by ridiculously arbitrary psychopaths? :huh:

 

"but what is there to do but survive?" -alan arkin, escape from sobibor

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Not too prejudiced about Arabs, ay.

I certainly doan believe that all muslims are murderous berserkers.

 

darkblue, a question...

 

do you really believe civilized western diplomats can sit down and reason with a bunch of **** who routinely flog themselves with chains? :)

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