leobertucelli Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Well mogo & the other; apparently you both couldn't comprehend all that I said. And all I mentioned should be addressed by someone there at the tcm staff. Maybe you like seeing same things shown continually, not I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattHelm Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Sorry Leo, I just think you were being a little harsh calling for people to be sacked over this and you sounded a bit incoherent ... I thought maybe you tied one on the night before. I certainly did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzcutter Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 AND as for their tcm remembers: that group who compiled what was aired ought to be let go as the people who passed on what was shown. Apparently Osborn has no say or clout OR, if he thought it was just fine, then I do believe he ought to rethink just where he is from where he now sits! >> Well mogo & the other; apparently you both couldn't comprehend all that I said. And all I mentioned should be addressed by someone there at the tcm staff. >> Leo, As I am the other you reference, I cut and pasted the part of your original post where you mention Robert Osbourne in regards to the TCM Remembers spot. From your post it certainly sounded like you thought Osbourne had some say in that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattHelm Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Well put. Initially, I was indifferent to the tribute, since it caught me off guard and I didn't realize that it was the infamous TCM Remembers that I've been hearing about, until they started showing the stars. The more I see it, the more I appreciate it. This isn't an obituary of people we know, it's a recognition of men and women in the film industry and their contributions to that industry. So, it is fitting that they're recognized within a vehicle that's a nod to the dramatic nature of the medium they were a part of, since that's our only exposure to them. TCM obviously wants to evolve the originality in its creative content, not stick to homogenous formulas as past "Remembers." The longevity of the channel not only relies on their consistency in the quality of their programming, but in their pushing the creative envelope and keeping things fresh. Otherwise, the content grows stagnant and people will turn the channel in between movies. I'm sure the hype over past TCM Remembers in e-mail feedback and message board posts encouraged them to give us something different this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattHelm Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Wait, are you saying that the name of the channel isn't OCM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansi4 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 Sam, that was a very interesting analogy of TCMs year end remembrance of those that passed away, Sam. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bat400 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Hello, all. I'm coming into this a bit late, but I keep missing this on the channel. Is there a particular time of day or specific movie slot that this tribute piece will be shown? Is there any chance that it will be available on the website? Is there any place one can see the similar tributes from previous years? bat400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiolady Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I watched the video several times, saw Omar Shariff, but never saw his name--or heard during the year that he had passed away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helenwheels Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Omar Sharif has not died. I was a little puzzled about that too, but I think they just threw that clip in there because of the rain on the window & then it fades to some other window that has raindrops. It just adds to the melancholy mood of the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 A film clip of Omar Sharif was shown as a sample of work done by one of the behind-the-scenes artisans who died in 2005. I forget which one. And I just remembered.....WHERE was Lon McCallister in this tribute? How does he rate BELOW Kay Walsh, Suzanne Flon, Stanley de Santis, (none of whom I'd even heard of before), not to mention Jocelyn Brando and Linda Martinez? Message was edited by: Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaynrand Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Ya know, Sam, if I wanted to watch an "art" film about those who passed on in 2005, I could find one. And "art" films to me have always been more about the "artist" than to subject. I wanted to see a tribute like we've always had...a summing up of those we have lost. This wasn't it. I don't necessarily think someone should lose his job over the terrible thing, but I think it's important we let TCM know if we like something OR don't like something. And I still don't like it. It was a mess and less a tribute to those we lost than an experiment in "film making" for some "artiste." Ugh. Where WAS Lon McAllister? Many were missing....and we got "art" instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snik Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 You're an idiot, Jaynrand. If you don't like the piece, then don't watch it. You are just like all the other cattle in this thread. Not able to think or form an educated opinion about anything without going with the majority of the crowd. You're pathetic and you make me sick with your verbal vomit and incoherent ramblings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamTherapy Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 //if I wanted to watch an "art" film about those who passed on in 2005, I could find one.// You could? I can't think of anywhere else one could find one, but if it is out there, do tell. However, I suspect TCM's is it. //"art" films to me have always been more about the "artist" than to subject.// I think the qualifying phrase 'to me' is key here. I'm not invalidating your take here, but I do comment that (as your choice of words indicates) it is subjective. There are however a variety of different critical approachs to art. Feeling that a work of art represents the artist is but one critical approach to a piece. //I wanted to see a tribute like we've always had// In all honesty (and I never indicated otherwise), I also preferred the format used prior to 2004 (this was not the first year in which a new method was begun). Nevertheless, despite my own personal preference, I am open to change and variety. Sometimes it is better to bend with a wind than to snap against it. //I don't necessarily think someone should lose his job// That's a given. That original comment was rather daft and beneath notice. Obviously programming is not aired before first being approved. To think otherwise is n?ive. //it's important we let TCM know if we like something OR don't like something// I concur. Precisely why I came out in positive acknowledgement of the film. //I still don't like it.// And that is your prerogative to which you are due. //Many were missing// That is disappointing to learn. I, too, would like the film to be all-inclusive. Did McAllister die near year's-end and was therefore too late for inclusion? Could that be an explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattHelm Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 "And "art" films to me have always been more about the "artist" than to subject." I consider any classic or great movie to be an art film. Every film should be more about the artist. It's always been that way, and should always be. Capra's movies were about Capra, the vision he wanted to put to film, or they wouldn't be as easily recognizable as Capra films. Same thing goes for Welles, Ford, Hawks, Sturges, Curtiz, Huston, Chaplin, Sirk, Kubrick, Minelli, Cocteau, Kurosawa, etc. What most people mean when they refer to "art film" is just merely an artist's style. To me, that's like calling some painters, painters, and other's art painters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vallo13 Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 If you're looking for a complete list of those who passed in 2005 or 2004 try: Filmbuffonline.com/ in remembrance.htm vallo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamTherapy Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 ~Cool~ B-) Thanks for the tip, vallo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwanderer Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 This is still being shown? I tried numerous times in the last week of 2005 to catch it and I never was able to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaynrand Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Thanks, snik. I appreciate your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamTherapy Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Typically, they cease after the new year begins, a pretty limited showing. Sorry, Starwanderer. I think someone's idea about it being viewable on the website is an excellent suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snik Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Jayrand: >>> Thanks, snik. I appreciate your comments. <<< I'm glad that you do. Now go get bent, fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwanderer Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 > Typically, they cease after the new year begins, a > pretty limited showing. > Sorry, Starwanderer. I'm disappointed, but not surprised. That was my recollection about how it worked from previous years. > I think someone's idea about it being viewable on the > website is an excellent suggestion. It most certainly is. I too made that suggestion to TCM. I went on further to suggest that if they didn't feel inclined to offer it as streaming or downloadable content, I would be pleased to purchase a collection of these from through the years on DVD. Maybe if enough people make the suggestion, TCM will listen. I hope they do anyway. This is the first one I missed in many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bat400 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 > > I think someone's idea about it being viewable on > the > > website is an excellent suggestion. > > It most certainly is. I too made that suggestion to > TCM. > Maybe if enough people make the suggestion, TCM will > listen. I hope they do anyway. This is the first one > I missed in many years. I also sent an e-mail requesting the availability of the tributes in some form. Please, if more of you would like these available, please ask TCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaynrand Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Snik - you must remember to take your medication or the nurses won't let you use the computer anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snik Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Jaynrand: >>> Snik - you must remember to take your medication or the nurses won't let you use the computer anymore. <<< You are nothing more but a simple minded fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddleman Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION!! No one else seemed to know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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