daddysprimadonna Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 I think I'll watch some episodes from my new Miami Vice(or as we used to say,"Miami Lice" ) DVD sets tonight. I used to love Castillo-he was the MAN,LOL-and I especially love the episode called "Out Where The Buses Don't Run",and of course the benchmark episode "Smuggler's Blues". It'll be cool to see these again. Link to post Share on other sites
constarkel Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Why is "Lovers and Other Strangers" being shown in PAN and SCAN right here on TCM? TCMprogammer????? Link to post Share on other sites
FredCDobbs Posted February 25, 2006 Author Share Posted February 25, 2006 Yeah, well, it won the 1971 Academy Award for Longest Sideburns, and it was nominated for Most Inane Plot. Link to post Share on other sites
constarkel Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 This thing looks like a made for TV movie! I know it is formatted to fit my screen perfectly. It was originally rated R so I suspect it has been edited for objectionable content as well. The soundtrack is provided by "The Love American (Out of)Style Band" Maybe we are being "treated" to a glimpse of TCM's exciting future? The only thing missing is the commercials. Message was edited by: constarkel Link to post Share on other sites
lzcutter Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Constarkel, No doubt, they had to rent the movie from another studio or source. In the past, TCMprogrammer has said they always ask for the original release in the original format but are at the mercy of what gets shipped to them. In this case, it sounds like they were shipped a pan and scan version and if it has been edited for content, it may be the airline version or a network broadcast version. Link to post Share on other sites
constarkel Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 At least it appears that they edited out the "Laugh Track". Am I to assume then, if somebody switched out "Sleepless in Seattle", or "Bridges of Madison County" with a porno movie, TCM would just air it in its entirety like it is doing with "Lovers and Other Strangers"? This is not quality programming! Link to post Share on other sites
sweetbabykmd Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 If they are renting from other sources when are they going to rent something good like The Glass Key or something of that caliber? Link to post Share on other sites
constarkel Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 No, we won't get "The Glass Key" but I bet we're in for some "Ghost and Mr Chicken" and "Incredible Mr Limpet" in the upcoming month and most likely at the expense of the Jeanette MacDonald and Nelson Eddy features. Tonight's Pan and Scanned and Edited For Content showing of "Lovers and Other Strangers" shows a blatant disregard for lovers of classic film. Notice that the mindless sycophants haven't chimed in, in defense of this one? They are all waiting for someone else to post first then they can bleat their imbecilic "You Rock Dude" and "You are a Gem" posts. There is nothing more pathetic than some geek deciding to try to be "cool". Hey sycophants, do you think TCM gives a damn that you love every thing that they do? Of course they don't care, you would go along with anything that they do anyway. If they decided to show a month of Barney the Dinosaur, I can guarantee there is at least one person on this forum that will be in full support. Message was edited by: constarkel Link to post Share on other sites
lzcutter Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Constarkel, All I did was respond to your question as to why TCM would run a pan and scan of "Lovers and Other Strangers". I responded with a message based upon what has happened with other films that have not run in the original format and the reasons given. But thanks for calling me a syncophant. I mistook your post as a genuine question. Thanks for letting me know I don't need to take you seriously in the future. Link to post Share on other sites
constarkel Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 lzcutter, I did not call you a sycophant, I am sorry if it looked like I was responding to you. You actually have something worth while to say and while I do not always agree with you, I respect your point of view. I was speaking to those one-sentence-canned-comment-charlies out there. Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 lzcutter - I knew she wasn't referring to you. And she is right, you know. There are several people on these boards who think TCM is much more than a commercial movie channel and can do no wrong. Read these threads (as I know you do) and you'll see who she is talking to. Ralph Link to post Share on other sites
lzcutter Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Constarkel and Ralph, Thanks for the clarification, I appreciate it. No harm, no foul. Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieT Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 "I was speaking to those one-sentence-canned-comment-charlies out there." Now I'M offended. Charlie Message was edited by: CharlieT Message was edited by: CharlieT Link to post Share on other sites
chrtbsh Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 We ordered the letterbox, uncut version. I tivoed it myself and I don't think it was edited - although IMDB says it was R, it was actually GP (the ratings are all at mpaa.org). But there are a few films that aren't available in letterbox from the distributor, and this is one of them. We never intentionally play an edited version and the only time we play a pan&scan version is when that's the only version the distrubutor can provide us. Link to post Share on other sites
constarkel Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 TcmProgrammr, I appreciate your candor. If a movie is only available in pan & scan, why would it be placed on TCM's schedule in the first place? I know that TCM can prempt movies when it wants to such as in last month's Robert Montgomery movies with the Shelley Winters tribute. So why wasn't this movie (Lovers and Other Strangers) yanked? The actor/actress linkage was THAT important to adhere to? And if it was, than maybe the person responsible for linking those movies should have came up with an alternate. To put a pan & scanned and possibly edited movie (and let's be honest, not a very good one at that) in there to make it work is kind of like using a file and scissors to put together a jig-saw puzzle. Link to post Share on other sites
chrtbsh Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Well, it doesn't quite work that way. We license films a few years in advance, so we don't know what's available (or going to be available) in letterbox. I was excited to be able to play "Lovers and Other Strangers" and was happy that it was part of the festival. The license period, however, was determined a few years ago. And it was me who put the schedule together - my assumption was that it would be available in letterbox when I did it- we order the films from the distributors once they're scheduled. I/we don't have time to check every film as they're being put into the schedule. As it is, a very small minority of titles aren't available in letterbox (my estimate is less than 2% of post-1955 titles), and I'm not sure if it's worth not playing something at all (especially if we've already paid to play it) if it's only available pan&scan. Having said that, I absolutely hate watching a movie in pan&scan and do whatever I can to make sure we can to try to acquire the letterbox versions. Whatever complaints you and others may have about TCM, our staff is made up of film purists - I don't think one person at the network perfers pan&scanl. Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 CharlieT - I, for one, never think of you as a "one-sentence-canned-comment-charlie." Much more a "Goodtime Charlie." Ralph Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieT Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Thanks, Ralph. I've always thought that life was too short to spend all of one's time complaining about things that they can't control. The serenity prayer of St. Francis of Assisi is one of my life tenets. BTW, I always wanted to win the lottery and open a restaurant called "Goodtime Charlie's." If I do, come by for a free meal. Charlie Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Good luck with the lottery, Charlie. I look forward to the grand opening of "Goodtime Charlie's." Ralph Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieT Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Bad news, Ralph. I bought my ticket about 80 miles too far south. Didn't win the lottery. "Goodtime Charlie's" on hold for now. Charlie Link to post Share on other sites
Huntress Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Jimmy was the person I was thinking of . Typed the wrong name! Cranes keep people away? Hmmm...maybe I'll cancel getting that tattoo. I'll have to watch Rear Window tonight. Been awhile. What did you think of "I Confess?" Watch that leg! Link to post Share on other sites
Huntress Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Fred , I thought I had dreamt the category of Longest Sideburns. Thanks for the validation. Link to post Share on other sites
MattHelm Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 These cranes are around four feet tall with footlong beaks, and I mix in some toe nail clippings with the bread I give them, so they get a taste for human. I like "I Confess." Early Monty, before his face got smashed up and his eyebrows turned into giant catepillars. Link to post Share on other sites
Huntress Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I think you should write a screenplay about those cranes. You could bring back the 50's monster movie genre, or take a page from the beach movies. With how boney hollywood is getting these days, you'd have no shortage of talent to cast the cranes from. Gary Oldman as the mad doctor who made the giant cranes. (I love him) Keanu Reeves as the hero. He needs a job. Link to post Share on other sites
MattHelm Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 The giant Cranes could breathe fire and spit bird flu. The savannah where they come from is near a nuclear plant, which is convenient for explaining impossible scientific explanations for their mutation. I wouldn't do that to Gary Oldman. I should give actors who need a come back a chance ... maybe Rodney Allen Rippey, Corey Haim and the Sweathogs (minus Babarino). Link to post Share on other sites
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