jdb1 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 OK, Dan - how about John Huston. He was "the man in the white suit" in Treasure of Sierra Madre, and he was born in Nevada, MO. Link to post Share on other sites
daneldorado Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 OK, Dan - how about John Huston. He was "the man in the white suit" in Treasure of Sierra Madre, and he was born in Nevada, MO. Perfect! Judith wins again! Dan Link to post Share on other sites
jdb1 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Here's my contribution for the evening: What world-famous movie star was born at sea? Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieT Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 John Huston, born in Nevada, Missouri The Treasure of Sierra Madre - American in Tampico in white suit. Tricky, Dan! CharlieT Drat! Had to wait on my daughter to get off the phone to get back on the internet and lost out! Message was edited by: CharlieT Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieT Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Either Flipper or Shamu, I bet. Link to post Share on other sites
jdb1 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 > Either Flipper or Shamu, I bet. Facetious, but probably correct. However, not in answer to my question. I'm looking for a human movie star, who was born at sea. To human parents. In a boat. Link to post Share on other sites
daneldorado Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I'm looking for a human movie star, who was born at sea. To human parents. In a boat. You may be thinking of Sidney Drew, uncle of John Barrymore, who appeared in more than 160 silent films. Dan Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieT Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 "Facetious, but probably correct." Maybe not totally facetious. I seem to remember someone asking a "do you know me" type question where the answer was a dog. If I wanted to be facetious, I probably would have guessed Howard "Keel." Charlie(just kidding)T Link to post Share on other sites
daneldorado Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I'm looking for a human movie star, who was born at sea. To human parents. In a boat. Sidney Poitier was born at sea. Dan N. Link to post Share on other sites
CineSage_jr Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Sidney Poitier was born at sea. And died at sea in THE BEDFORD INCIDENT. Link to post Share on other sites
jdb1 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Sidney Poitier is correct, and Dan got there first. Here's an excerpt from the Gainesville (FL) Sun's online site, gainesville.com: "Sidney Poitier was born on the high seas en route to Miami, Florida, where his farmer parents, a Bahamian father of Haitian descent and a Bahamian mother, traveled to sell tomatoes and other produce from their farm on tiny Cat Island in The Bahamas. Poitier was born prematurely and was not originally expected to survive the boat ride; his birth was recorded in Miami, as the vessel was already closer to Florida." (Howard Keel. Har har, hardy-har har.) You're up, Dan. Link to post Share on other sites
daneldorado Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Sidney Poitier is correct, and Dan got there first. You're up, Dan. Thanks, Judith... I will graciously relinquish my turn to YOU... as long as you promise to confine your questions to HUMAN actors and actresses. Sheesh!! Jean, the Vitagraph dog! Dan N. Link to post Share on other sites
jdb1 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 > Thanks, Judith... I will graciously relinquish my > turn to YOU... as long as you promise to confine your > questions to HUMAN actors and actresses. Sheesh!! > Jean, the Vitagraph dog! > > Dan N. Now really, gentlemen, where would Hollywood be without its relentless anthropomorphizing of our four-legged friends? You can't tell me Jean the Vitagraph Dog wasn't an important part of the cinema scene, 'cause I won't believe it. Where would Roy be without Trigger, or Our Gang without Pete? Anyway -- here's a question: Two Hollywood directors. One fun-loving and colorful, known primarily for colorful films and for his lavish and colorful weekly parties. The other, sober and serious, known primarily for his serious, "meaningful" films, and living a quiet life. These men had something in common in their formative years. Who are they and what do they have in common? (I know, there's an element of overlap here with Do You Know Me?, but it's hard to ask these questions in such narrow ways.) Link to post Share on other sites
daneldorado Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 My guess is: Spike Lee and Martin Scorsese. Scorsese was Lee's teacher at NYU. That's the connection. In your description of the fun-loving director, you used the word "colorful" THREE TIMES in a single sentence. You're not that bad a writer. So, I figure you were trying to signal that the director in question is black. Dan N. Link to post Share on other sites
jdb1 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 My, aren't we critical tonight. And wrong, wrong, wrong. Think of the word "colorful" in the kind of euphemistic sense it might have been used 50 or 60 years ago. The period of time in question goes further back than the names you mentioned. Moreso for one than for the other. Both directed many Oscar-winning performances, but only one of them won an Oscar for best director. However, to narrow things down, I can tell you that like the two directors you mentioned, both of the directors here were from New York City. As far as the connection, you may have inadvertently hopped onto the right track. Link to post Share on other sites
daneldorado Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Okay, this time I've got: Stanley Kramer and Oliver Stone. Both men were born in New York City. They both attended NYU. Stone has won the Oscar, Kramer never did. When you say you're using the word "colorful" as a euphemism, I take it you mean gay. But none of the info I've found on these guys indicates that they are homosexual. Maybe they are -- or one of them is -- or maybe I'm just wrong about your meaning. Anyway, these two names meet all your other criteria. Dan N. Link to post Share on other sites
Cinemascope Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I don't think "colorful" has ever been a euphemism for homosexual. Link to post Share on other sites
jdb1 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 > I don't think "colorful" has ever been a euphemism > for homosexual. I beg to differ. It's a word I heard all the time in 1950s NYC, meaning "flamboyant" - i.e. homosexual. When I was a little girl, my father worked at a deli in Greenwich Village, and when he and or my mother would speak to their friends of the various clientele my father served, they always used words like "colorful" or "artistic" (wink wink). Those were different times. Anyway, I wasn't trying to be PC. Rather, I was trying to keep the question from being too easily solved. Now, as to your guess, Dan, you are partly right. One of those mentioned is one I was thinking of. However, the other is not, and the common link, although in the right category, is not the one either. Here's a hint: go back further in time. Here's another Big Hint: both directors worked with Tracy and Hepburn, one more with Tracy and the other more with Hepburn, but both worked with them as a couple. Link to post Share on other sites
txrd999 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 are you speaking of... george cukor and stanley kramer? both were from new york both were nominated for best director but only cukor won the oscar.... cukor was known for his sunday parties.... and both worked with tracy/hepburn.... Link to post Share on other sites
jdb1 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Yes, they are those of whom I speak. Nice work. The other part of the question is, what in their pasts did they have in common? Link to post Share on other sites
Cinemascope Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Well. How about that. Maybe it was used in that context then. All I know is I live in the Bay Area and I participate a lot in the LGBT community and honestly can't recall anyone using the word in that context. "Colorful" can be something extravagant even if hetero. But, anyway, good luck with that trivia bit. Link to post Share on other sites
txrd999 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 oh yes....i forgot they both went to dewitt clinton high school and i think the term colourful, tipped me off..... that was a term my great grandmother used to describe her son..... she always thought it sounded more pleasant...... strange but i guess no more than how the term gay originated......which really means happy.... cheers karith Link to post Share on other sites
txrd999 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 so here is an easy one.... this person was declared a child prodigy.... and later in life would have a brilliant film career in the us and europe. this person has one of the longest bios i have ever read. Link to post Share on other sites
jdb1 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Is it John Houseman? Link to post Share on other sites
txrd999 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 it is not john houseman.... but he did work closely with the person in question. Link to post Share on other sites
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