jarhfive Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 lzcutter, "Gore Vidal" and his "I was not credited battle"? I could not find any relevant quotes. Was Mr. Veedle particularly nasty? BTW: You mentioned your "RKO studios" reference material? I am interested in the history of RKO. Do you have a recommendation vis-a-vis "RKO studios" reference book(s)? Rusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path40a Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 Thanks for your interest (and encouragement), but I think there would be a conflict of interest if I participated in this one. However, I'll probably submit an entry in the next programming challenge that was proposed (provided someone else starts it). I was tempted to submit an entry that included only films released since 1980 though ... with plenty of anime;-) Message was edited by: path40a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 LOL! You could even have a special day with Benji, whatever sequels it had, Oh Heavenly Dog, and call the day Going to the Dogs. You can bet a lot of the naysayers would jump on that and agree, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 As to the next challenge after this one ends, are you sure you can't be convinced to take charge of it? Since I am the one to have suggested the next one be the "one studio each week" possibility, I still want to take part in it. And, definitely, I want to see what you come up with for your own sched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlywdkjk Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I was tempted to submit an entry that included only films released since 1980 though ... with plenty of anime;-) Or "Bringing Up Baby" 24/7? Which reminds me of an April Fool's Day stunt when I was a youngster and a local radio station played "Dead Skunk In The Middle Of The Road" for the entire day. Sorry you are recusing yourself from the challenge. I don't see a conflict of interest as you aren't selecting the "winner", but I honor your decision as a person with high ethical standards. Wanna run for public office instead? Kyle in Hollywood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constarkel Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 After reading all of the posted programming schedules, I would have to say that I think EACH and EVERY one of them is head and shoulders above what we have been getting from the pros at TCM on the average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzcutter Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 You mentioned your "RKO studios" reference material? I am interested in the history of RKO. Do you have a recommendation vis-a-vis "RKO studios" reference book(s)?>> Rusty, Richard Jewell's "The RKO Story" is a good history of the studio. I recommend it highly. As for Gore Vidal, in recent years he has been rather vocal about being snubbed for his contribution to Ben-Hur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 How about stars or supporting players who aren't usually covered? Someone suggested this and I think it's a great idea! Here are some names off the top of my head: Eleanor Parker Gloria Grahame Cyd Charisse Shirley Jones Dan Dailey- a problem, I guess, because he did mostly Fox films Frank Morgan Margaret O'Brien Gloria DeHaven Angela Lansbury... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattHelm Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 That's a good idea. I think that they should do a whole month devoted to the great character actors. TCM should even make an original documentary on them because they seem to be the unsung heroes of Hollywood. A lot of the classics would be nothing without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzcutter Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Rusty, It looks like Pandro Berman (RKO's answer to Irving Thalberg in a way), got fed up with working for RKO in the late 1930s. Unlike the other studios, MGM (L. Mayer), WBros (J. Warner), Fox (D. Zanuck), Paramount (A. Zukor), Universal (Any Lasky), and even Columbia (H. Cohn), RKO did not have a strong personality at the helm and it is said that Berman got tired of the infighting and politics. So, in 1940 he jumped ship to MGM. He had an eye for talent and a talent for pairing stars together that others thought wouldn't work. He also had a way with dealing with the various insecurites and egos of the stars and the directors. Though Thalberg is the name most people know as a "producers" producer, Pan Berman was cut from the same cut of cloth and had a much longer and more illustrious career than Thalberg. Thalberg just had the advantage of dying young at the top of his game and so his reputation was frozen in time. Interesting to ponder if Thalberg would be as remembered today for his business acumen had he lived a long life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsallieharding Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 If everyone will take a look at the films that were chosen by those that have entered the TCM Challenge and the June schedule, you will notice that many of the films the challengers have picked out will be on in June. Films that have not been on in years or never before. Therefore all five who have entered are winners by getting some of their favorites on the schedule. If you have some favorite directors, actors or writers of films you would like to see on TCM you could make a weeks worth pf programming listing these films. Maybe some of them will show up and you can be a winner too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarhfive Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 lzcutter, Thank you for the information. Guess what? I finished my "challenge" schedule! I am printing the thing out for a final 'quality assurance' look-over. I will post tomorrow. It took most of today (Friday) to complete, but doing the thing was a lot of fun! Again, thanks for the info. Rusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzcutter Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 If everyone will take a look at the films that were chosen by those that have entered the TCM Challenge and the June schedule,>> Allie, How do you access the new June schedule? From the schedule page you can only see through May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzcutter Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 will post tomorrow. It took most of today (Friday) to complete, but doing the thing was a lot of fun!>> Rusty, I am looking forward to seeing your schedule! Yes, it is a lot of work and takes a couple of passes to make sure the times all line up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlywdkjk Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Hey there my friend "down in the valley" - http://turnerclassicmovies.com/schedule/month/?cid=&oid=6/1/2006&timezone=PST Click or copy and paste into the address window. You'll find a few nice surprises. Kyle in Hollywood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzcutter Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Kyle, Thanks for the link. I love the film "Hoosiers" mainly because of its score. One of those great scores you carry with you always. I have it on vinyl, should check to see if it's available on CD. One of my fave scores, up there with Chinatown, Under Fire and Mockingbird. (I'm sure there will be ridicule but that's okay. When it comes to film scores, I know what I love). The Wind- one of the best silent films ever. La Strada and Fanny and Alexandria! Sh! The Octopus, Clara Bow, Bette Davis and Louis Brooks docs, Show People, The Las Vegas Story, City of Conquest (maybe the one with the recently restored prologue ), Parnell (which I haven't seen since I was a kid), am hoping I am home and not traveling for work in June! I've just about forgotten how hard the challenge was and will be ready for the next one (which will hopefully be after May, but if not, that's okay, I'll work it in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path40a Posted March 25, 2006 Author Share Posted March 25, 2006 This is great news allie, and worth making a note of; your efforts were not in vain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path40a Posted March 25, 2006 Author Share Posted March 25, 2006 I'll look forward to your entry Rusty! NOTE: less than one week to go on this challenge, and the benefits of participating have been noted (e.g. by allie). Plus, they'll be a prize! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarhfive Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Thursday, June 1st: Frank Morgan's Birthday 06:00 am Secrets Of The French Police (1932)/RKO/59 mins 07:15 am The Half-Naked Truth (1932)/RKO/77 mins 08:45 am The Nuisance (1933)/MGM/83 mins 10:15 am When Ladies Meet (1933)/Cosmopolitan/MGM/85 mins 11:45 am Enchanted April (1935)/RKO/66mins 01:00 pm The Perfect Gentleman (1935)/MGM/72 mins 02:15 pm Picadilly Jim (1936)/MGM/95 mins 04:00 pm The Great Morgan (1946)/MGM/57 mins 05:00 pm Washington Melodrama (1946)/MGM/80 mins 06:30 pm By Your Leave (1934)/RKO/82 mins My Wedding Anniversary 08:00 pm The Locket (1946)/RKO/85 mins 09:30 pm Married Before Breakfast (1937)/MGM/70 mins 10:45 pm Palm Beach Story (1942)/Paramount/88 mins 12:30 am Father Of The Bride (1950)/MGM/92 mins 02:15 am The Catered Affair (1956/MGM/92 mins 04:00 am Arsenic And Old Lace (1944)/Warner Brothers/118 mins Friday, June 2nd: Johnny Weissmuller's Birthday 06:00 am Tarzan The Ape Man (1932)/MGM/99 mins 08:00 am Tarzan And His Mate (1934)/MGM/91 mins 10:00 am Tarzan Escapes! (1936)/MGM/89 mins 12:00 pm Tarzan Finds A Son (1939)/MGM/82 mins 02:00 pm Tarzan's Secret Treasure (1941)/MGM/81 mins 03:30 pm Tarzan's New York Adventure (1942)/MGM/72 mins 05:00 pm Tarzan Triumphs (1943)/Sol Lesser/RKO/76 mins 06:30 pm Tarzan's Desert Mystery (1943)/Sol Lesser/RKO/70 mins Magazine To Movie--Collier's Magazine 08:00 pm The Bedford Incident (1965)/Bedford/Columbia/102 mins 09:45 pm Invasion Of The Body Snatchers (1956)/Walter Wanger Prod./80 mins 11:15 pm Ding Dong Williams (1946)/RKO/61mins 12:30 am Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo (1944)/MGM/138 mins 03:00 am Stagecoach (1939)/Walter Wanger Productions/96 mins 04:45 am The Big Game (1936)/RKO/74 mins Saturday, June 3rd: Darkness After Dawn 06:00 am Force Of Evil (1948)/MGM/78 mins Serial Saturday Morning--The Hurricane Express (1932)/Mascot/227 mins Starring John Wayne 08:00 am Episode 1-The Wrecker 08:30 am Episode 2-Flying Pirates 09:00 am Episode 3-The Masked Menace 09:30 am Episode 4-Buried Alive 10:00 am Episode 5-Danger Lights 10:30 am Episode 6-The Airport Mystery 11:00 am Episode 7-Sealed Lips 11:30 am Episode 8-Outside The Law 12:00 pm Episode 9-The Invisible Army 12:30 pm Episode 10-The Wrecker's Secret 01:00 pm Episode 11-Wings Of Death 01:30 pm Episode 12-Unmasked My Man--Robert Taylor 02:00 pm Waterloo Bridge (1940)/MGM/108 mins 04:00 pm Lucky Night (1939)/MGM/82 mins 05:30 pm Undercurrent (1946)/MGM/116 mins 07:30 pm One Reel Wonders/30mins The Essentials 08:00 pm Ben-Hur: A Tale Of The Christ (1925)/MGM/151 mins 11:00 pm Quo Vadis (1951)/MGM/171 mins TCM Imports 02:00 am Simon Of The Desert (1965)/Altura Films International/40 mins 03:00 am Valley Of The Kings (1954)/MGM/86 mins 04:30 am The Hitchhiker (1953)/The Filmakers/RKO/71 mins Sunday, June 4th: Pasternakia 06:00 am Duchess Of Idaho (1950)/MGM/98 mins 08:00 am The Toast Of New Orleans (1950)/MGM/97 mins 10:00 am Nancy Goes To Rio (1950)/MGM/100 mins 12:00 pm Summer Stock (1950)/MGM/108 mins 02:00 pm A Date With Judy (1948)/MGM/113 mins 04:00 pm Meet Me In Las Vegas (1956)/MGM/112 mins The Essentials 06:00 pm Ben-Hur: A Tale Of The Christ (1925)/MGM/151 mins Keaton Nation 08:45 pm Our Hospitality (1923)/Joseph M Schenck/74 mins 10:00 pm Sherlock, Jr. (1924)/Buster Keaton Productions/44 mins 10:45 pm The Navigator (1924)/Buster Keaton Productions/MGM/59 mins 12:00 am Seven Chances (1925)/Buster Keaton Productions/56 mins 01:00 am Go West (1925)/Buster Keaton Productions/MGM/69 mins 02:15 am The General (1927)/Buster Keaton Productions/United Artists/75 mins 03:45 am Steamboat Bill, Jr. (1928)/Buster Keaton Productions/71 mins 05:00 am The Cameraman (1928)/MGM/75 mins Monday, June 5th: Walter Plunkett's Birthday 06:30 am Flying Down To Rio (1933)/RKO/89 mins 08:15 am Stingaree (1934)/RKO/73 mins 09:45 am The Return Of Peter Grimm (1935)/RKO/84 mins 11:15 am Freckles (1935)/RKO/69 mins 12:30 pm Quality Street (1937)/RKO/83 mins 02:00 pm The Soldier And The Lady (1937)/RKO/85 mins 03:30 pm To Beat The Band (1935)/RKO/70 mins 04:45 pm Devil's Doorway (1950)/MGM/84 mins 06:15 pm The Prisoner Of Zenda (1952)/MGM/ 96 mins My Man And Star Of The Month--Edward G. Robinson 08:00 pm Sammy Going South* (1963)/Bryanston Films/Seven Arts/128 mins 10:15 pm The Red House* (1947)/Sol Lesser Productions/100 mins 12:15 am All My Sons* (1948)/Universal International/95 mins 02:15 am The Woman In The Window (1945)/International Pictures/99 mins 04:15 am The Sea Wolf (1941)/Warner Brothers/87 mins Tuesday, June 6th: Walter Abel's Birthday 06:00 am The Three Musketeers (1935)/RKO/96 mins 08:00 am The Lady Consents (1936)/RKO/76 mins 09:30 am Fury (1936)/MGM/90 mins 11:30 am Law Of The Underworld (1938)/RKO/58 mins 12:45 pm Green Light (1937)/Cosmopolitan/First National/Warner Bros./85 mins 02:15 pm Racket Busters (1938)/Cosmopolitan/Warner Brothers/71 mins 03:30 pm Two In The Dark (1936)/RKO/74 mins 05:00 pm Mr. Skeffigton (1944)/First National/Warner Brothers/145 mins 07:30 pm One Reel Wonders/30 mins Magazine To Movie--Saturday Evening Post 08:00 pm The Hucksters (1947)/MGM/115 mins 10:00 pm Men Of The Fighting Lady/MGM/79 mins 11:30 pm Vengeance Valley (1951)/MGM/83 mins 01:00 am Tugboat Annie (1933)/MGM/86 mins 02:30 am Riding On Air (1937)/David Loew Productions/RKO/70 mins 04:00 am Earthworm Tractors (1936)/First National/Warner Bros/69 mins 05:15 am One Reel Wonders/15mins Wednesday, June 7th: Dean Martin's Birthday 06:00 am Bells Are Ringing (1960)/MGM/127 mins 08:30 am Ten Thousand Bedrooms (1957)/MGM/114 mins 10:45 am Ada (1961)/Avon Productions/Chalmer Inc./109 mins 12:45 pm Rio Bravo (1959)/Armada Productions/141 mins 03:15 pm Toys In The Attic (1963)/Meadway Claude/The Mirisch Corp./90 mins 05:00 pm Some Came Running (1958)/MGM/137 mins 07:30 pm Dino, Desi and Billy: Beverly Beat(1965)/DDB LLC/30 mins Magazine To Movie 08:00 pm A Christmas Story (1983)/Christmas Tree Films/MGM/93mins Playboy 09:45 pm Jalna (1935)/RKO/78mins Atlantic Monthly 11:15 pm Shadow Of Doubt (1935)/MGM/74 mins Colliers Magazine 12:45 am Get-Rich-Quick-Wallingford (1921)/Cosmopolitan Productions/70 mins Cosmopolitan Magazine 02:00 am New Adventures Get-Rich-Quick-Wallingford (1931)/MGM/95 mins Cosmopolitan Magazine 03:45 am Woman In The Dark (1934)/RKO/66 mins Liberty Magazine 05:00 am Joe Smith, American (1942)/MGM 63 mins Cosmopolitan Magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarhfive Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Hello, I thank coffeedan and his post dated 8/1/05 "Re:Whatever happened to good movies?" Coffedan's information was the 'kernel' of my programming. Find the thread and Coffedan's message...very interesting. I thank Mongo--"Birthday" thread. I thank lzutter for the programming 'template'. I thank hlywdkjk for lots of information and tips. I thank MattHelm for the "serial" idea. Matt...honestly, I did not remember you placing your serials Saturday morning. I was ready to 'upload' my programming (I was checking for another "Ben Hur" essential) and viewed your programming. Your idea must of stuck somewhere in my head. I thank path40a for the challenge. I worked on this all day Friday and left all my 'other' work for Monday. Briefly, June 1st--my wedding anniversary. I programmed 'wedding' fare. June 2nd--more Tarzan than anyone needs (or wants). June 2nd--I programmed movies based on stuff appearing in Collier's magazine. June 3rd--I programmed all 227 minutes of the John Wayne serial. I know that the episodes would normally 'spread' over several weeks. My programming all episodes Saturday morning is...I don't know...to 'fill in' several hours. June 4th--Joe Pasternak...need I say more? June 5th--Edward G. Robinson and Robert Taylor...my guys! I took some liberties with 'have to lease' movies. I marked the Robinson programming that may be TCM premieres with an asterisk. BTW: The one movie I listed that requires a TCM broadcast is the wonderful 'kids' adventure film--"Sammy Goes South" (aka "A Boy Ten Feet Tall"). I saw that thing as a boy, uh...40 years ago! June 6th--I programmed movies based on stuff appearing in The Saturday Evening Post magazine. June 7th--I programmed movies based on stuff appearing in various magazines. I listed source magazine with the movie. Rusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarhfive Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Hello, BTW: The June 7th 7:30 pm listing? Don't try to find the thing--it does not exist. Aww. Rusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattHelm Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Success! The Magazine to Movie idea is great. And the serial you chose would be great to see on there, too. I can't watch TCM on the weekend mornings usually, I'm not in the mood for heavy dramas or plots when I wake up. Probably the conditioning I received from the Pavlov experiment of my youth. I'd prefer to watch serials or cartoons, or something totally ridiculous. And thanks for remembering me on Dean Martin Day, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarhfive Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 MattHelm, Thank you for the thank you. Yesterday's 'work' was fun, despite my employer's computer 'locking up' on all the IMDB "flash-in-your-face" ads. My, ahem...business computer still runs Windows 95! The software simply can't hand all that s***. Believe it or not, I have watched the John Wayne serial--independent VHF station, broadcasting from Denver...many years ago. Rusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarhfive Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 MattHelm, Sorry. Thank you for the kudos. Most of my brain has 'checked out'. Rusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path40a Posted March 25, 2006 Author Share Posted March 25, 2006 Terrific job, Rusty, and thanks for taking the time to complete a week's programming for TCM! Thanks also for the explanatory post, always helpful & interesting to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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