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FRED MACMURRAY- Nice Guy and Underrated Actor

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That was considered a good career move for him...because they worked the series around his motion picture commitments. So he made quite a bit of money for himself and his agency during those 12 years. Plus, it kept him visible and popular long after other stars from his generation had faded.

 

TWELVE years? In PR only one year was broadcast--thanks be to Christ and Our Lady of Divine Providence!

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Am I the only one disappointed that "The Egg and I" is not in the lineup?

Welcome to TCM!

 

Anyone who likes "The Egg and I" just has to be a most wonderful addition here!

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TWELVE years? In PR only one year was broadcast--thanks be to Christ and Our Lady of Divine Providence!

 

Sounds as if that one year of the "My Three Sons" series they showed in PR might have been among the later and in-color years, Palmerin. That sitcom was actually funny or at least had a few funny moments in each episode early on in its B&W years , however it had pretty much "jumped the shark" by the time you'd see Fred's TV sons being teenagers and/or married.

 

(...MeTV was showing MTS episodes a while back, the later in-color ones, and while catching a few episodes I also found them and after all these years later to be as unfunny as any sitcom I can ever recall, and seemed by this time in its run, Fred was just "phoning it in" as they say)

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Sounds as if that one year of the "My Three Sons" series they showed in PR might have been among the later and in-color years, Palmerin. That sitcom was actually funny or at least had a few funny moments in each episode early on in its B&W years , however it had pretty much "jumped the shark" by the time you'd see Fred's TV sons being teenagers and/or married.

 

(...MeTV was showing MTS episodes a while back, the later in-color ones, and while catching a few episodes I also found them and after all these years later to be as unfunny as any sitcom I can ever recall, and seemed by this time in its run, Fred was just "phoning it in" as they say)

Dargo, first they get rid of that cutie, Tim Considine, then William Frawley [okay, not their fault since he was dead!] and marry off Fred to Beverly Garland, who had that horrid female child, and then forcing one more King Family member to be on tv, with Tina Cole. Oh, forgot that they have boys not related playing brothers but then they bring the real brother of Chip in, with the twisted story line of Ernie as an orphan they adopt. No wonder the show shall live in infamy. I did like William Demarest as Uncle Charlie though.

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Dargo, first they get rid of that cutie, Tim Considine, then William Frawley [okay, not their fault since he was dead!] and marry off Fred to Beverly Garland, who had that horrid female child, and then forcing one more King Family member to be on tv, with Tina Cole. Oh, forgot that they have boys not related playing brothers but then they bring the real brother of Chip in, with the twisted story line of Ernie as an orphan they adopt. No wonder the show shall live in infamy. I did like William Demarest as Uncle Charlie though.

 

LOL

 

Yep! While that might not be the "kindest" manner in which to describe little actress Dawn Lyn, I gotta admit it IS pretty much an accurate one, alright!

 

(...odd lookin' little tyke, wasn't she?!...and pretty much an irritating little presence to boot!)

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I know, right?

The sound seemed to have a really "tinny" quality for me, and it was very hard to understand a lot of the dialogue, especially that of Carole Lombard...who I like, but who had a voice that needed careful direction as she can get screechy real quick, this movie being a prime example.

I tuned in with about 45 minutes left, and I had a lot of trouble figuring out what was going on.

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Yeah, the series got really bad towards the end. (even before Fred remarried) But in the beginning it wasnt too bad. I havent seen it in years, so it may not have aged well. I read somewhere they filmed Fred's scenes in blocks (multiepisodes) so he'd come in a couple days a month. Not a bad living....

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I know, right?

The sound seemed to have a really "tinny" quality for me, and it was very hard to understand a lot of the dialogue, especially that of Carole Lombard...who I like, but who had a voice that needed careful direction as she can get screechy real quick, this movie being a prime example.

 

The quality of the film True Confession was lacking.   In addition out of the 4 films Fred made with Lombard while they were both under contract at Paramount,  TC is the least successful.      But hey,  at least TCM showed some 30s Paramount films. 

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Sounds as if that one year of the "My Three Sons" series they showed in PR might have been among the later and in-color years, Palmerin. That sitcom was actually funny or at least had a few funny moments in each episode early on in its B&W years , however it had pretty much "jumped the shark" by the time you'd see Fred's TV sons being teenagers and/or married.

 

(...MeTV was showing MTS episodes a while back, the later in-color ones, and while catching a few episodes I also found them and after all these years later to be as unfunny as any sitcom I can ever recall, and seemed by this time in its run, Fred was just "phoning it in" as they say)

When the show was being rebroadcast on cable, they were indeed the later California-based episodes in color. I was eager to see them, because only the early b&w episodes were being released on DVD at the time. I started watching them and developed a crush on Don Grady. LOL

 

I looked up Don on the internet and found his website. I sent a detailed email saying I was a fan and asked about five questions related to the show. I wasn't sure if he would reply. This is when I was living in Arizona, and there was a new Native American casino outside Yuma that paid good money to bring in musicians to entertain guests. Anyway, Don replied to me because in my email I said I was located in Yuma, Arizona. He wanted to know what the casino was like and that he and his band were considering playing there during the upcoming year.

 

I replied back and told him about the casino and said I'd go see him and his band play if they booked a gig at the Quechan (the name of the casino/resort). He was nice enough to answer a few of my questions. One of the questions I remember asking him was what he thought of working with Tina Cole who played his wife on the sitcom. He told me they got along well and remained friends after the show. He did say, jokingly, that Tina was furious at him for leaving at the end of the 11th season (to pursue his music career).

 

Apparently, CBS and Don Fedderson the producer had planned to do a spinoff with Robby & Katie and the triplets. But when Don quit, those plans were scrapped. He said he probably should not have quit, because if he had done the spinoff and it was a hit, he would have been set for the rest of his life. He also said that Tina had been hired to play his girlfriend/wife after June Haver (Fred MacMurray's wife) approved the casting. Apparently, June had a say in what kinds of women were brought on the show to play scenes with her husband.

 

Unfortunately, I did not get the chance to meet Don, because he died of cancer a short time later and never did make it to Yuma to play with his band. I appreciated corresponding with him by email. And that made watching the color episodes of My Three Sons sort of special for me.

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The quality of the film True Confession was lacking.   In addition out of the 4 films Fred made with Lombard while they were both under contract at Paramount,  TC is the least successful.      But hey,  at least TCM showed some 30s Paramount films. 

Ben said that TC was the best of the films he did with Lombard.

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Ben said that TC was the best of the films he did with Lombard.

 

Well in this specific case Ben doesn't know what he is talking about.    I missed the intro, is that when he said this?

 

Either way,  I'm surprised because I assume the general consensus is that Hands Across the Table is the best of the 4. 

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Ben said that TC was the best of the films he did with Lombard.

Do not agree, sorry. The best is HANDS ACROSS THE TABLE. And THE PRINCESS COMES ACROSS, where Lombard does her very best Garbo impression, is also a riot. 

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I would say that Swing High, Swing Low was the least successful of the four films Lombard and MacMurray made together. Lombard did her own singing in this one. Big mistake.

 

Hands Across the Table is the most charming, with Lombard really at the top of her game here. True Confession is quite a strained comedy to me, though it's a film that I really wanted to like because of its cast.

 

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No matter what you may think of the film, it's still fun to see a photo of an old time movie marquee with some legendary names on it. This particular theatre had just opened in Salt Lake City.

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No matter what you may think of the film, it's still fun to see a photo of an old time movie marquee with some legendary names on it. This particular theatre had just opened in Salt Lake City.

 

Yeah but word was, just TRY and purchase a coke or some coffee from the snack bar in that theater and see how far you'd get!!!

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Welcome to TCM!

 

Anyone who likes "The Egg and I" just has to be a most wonderful addition here!

What a shame that THE EGG AND I isn`t being shown. Now we know that Claudette Colbert was one of Fred`s favorite leading ladies the other lady being Carole Lombard. THE EGG AND I is available for purchase on Amazon. Richard Long plays the eldest son of the Kettle clan. I will have to check my vhs tapes, but NO TIME FOR LOVE is hopefuly still in my collection. Claudette plays a famous photographer who falls in love with down to earth Fred. A favorite of mine Mitchill Leisen directs.

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I hadnt known Don Grady had died. That is sad news. I always liked him in the show (at least till the show ran out of steam) I remember all the controversy over his longer hair (it really wasnt THAT long) He was in the reserves and he didnt want to cut it. Cant remember how all that turned out......it was the 60s after all.

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Yeah but word was, just TRY and purchase a coke or some coffee from the snack bar in that theater and see how far you'd get!!!

How this photo brings back memories. My hometown of Dunkirk, NY population 18,000 had three movie theatres the Capital,State, and the Regent. They are all gone, and a multiples theatre remains. I remember being invited to a classmates birthday party in grade school, and we went to the Capital to see a reissue of THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH.

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I know, right?

The sound seemed to have a really "tinny" quality for me, and it was very hard to understand a lot of the dialogue, especially that of Carole Lombard...who I like, but who had a voice that needed careful direction as she can get screechy real quick, this movie being a prime example.

The movie was bad, that I dozed off half way through. I don`t have a problem with Carole Lombard, but she kept doing strange things with her tongue in her cheek. Maybe the stupid director told her to do such foolishness, but it drove me up the wall. Fred played the stupidiest character that I have ever seen him play. The plus side is this clunker was very was very early in Fred`s career, and he soon redeemed himself.

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I missed True Confession, which I had wanted to see because of the interesting cast.  I had seen a MacMurray-Lombard movie about a year ago, but don't remember the title, in which Lombard spent most of the movie on a cruise liner, initially doing a great Garbo imitation, and MacMurray played on the concertina (and maybe sax, too?), but can't recall the title.  I remember enjoying it, but can't remember the title.

 

I caught Murder, He Says, but didn't much care for it, despite the positive reviews.  I'm not much for hillbilly farce and actually found the character of the mentally "challenged" backwoods girl who was being slapped around to be extremely problematic.

 

I liked Suddenly It's Spring more than I expected to.  Paulette Goddard was so delightful and she had great chemistry both with MacMurray and with MacDonald Carey.  I was half-hoping she'd end up with him.  I wonder why he never went further in films, as he was quite a charming guy.

 

One movie I've always wanted to see --Trail of the Lonesome Pine partly because of the technicolor, but also because I just finished the book, which had some of the best nature writing I've ever read.  I'd be curious to see how close the film is to the book, as the main female character is quite young, really a child or young teen-ager, when she first meets the hero, who is played by MacMurray.  I'm surprised it's not being shown by TCM because I guess it's one of the earliest successful uses of 3-strip technicoplor.

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I missed True Confession, which I had wanted to see because of the interesting cast.  I had seen a MacMurray-Lombard movie about a year ago, but don't remember the title, in which Lombard spent most of the movie on a cruise liner, initially doing a great Garbo imitation, and MacMurray played on the concertina (and maybe sax, too?), but can't recall the title.  I remember enjoying it, but can't remember the title.

 

One movie I've always wanted to see --Trail of the Lonesome Pine partly because of the technicolor, but also because I just finished the book, which had some of the best nature writing I've ever read.  I'd be curious to see how close the film is to the book, as the main female character is quite young, really a child or young teen-ager, when she first meets the hero, who is played by MacMurray.  I'm surprised it's not being shown by TCM because I guess it's one of the earliest successful uses of 3-strip technicoplor.

 

The Lombard \ MacMurrary movie with the Garbo imitation is The Princess Comes Across.    True Confession is worth seeing just for the odd performance of John Barrymore. 

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I hadnt known Don Grady had died. That is sad news. I always liked him in the show (at least till the show ran out of steam) I remember all the controversy over his longer hair (it really wasnt THAT long) He was in the reserves and he didnt want to cut it. Cant remember how all that turned out......it was the 60s after all.

 

Well Hibi, as I recall, after long negotiations between Don's agent and the U.S. Dept of Defense, he eventually WAS allowed to wear his hair long while performing his weekend warrior duties for our nation.

 

(...but he STILL couldn't get into Disneyland with his long hair until about the year 1977 and when they finally relaxed The Magic Kingdom's stringent "grooming standards" required for admittance)  

 

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What a shame that THE EGG AND I isn`t being shown. Now we know that Claudette Colbert was one of Fred`s favorite leading ladies the other lady being Carole Lombard. THE EGG AND I is available for purchase on Amazon. Richard Long plays the eldest son of the Kettle clan. I will have to check my vhs tapes, but NO TIME FOR LOVE is hopefuly still in my collection. Claudette plays a famous photographer who falls in love with down to earth Fred. A favorite of mine Mitchill Leisen directs.

NO TIME FOR LOVE has a very good supporting cast. And TCM has aired it before.

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Well Hibi, as I recall, after long negotiations between Don's agent and the U.S. Dept of Defense, he eventually WAS allowed to wear his hair long while performing his weekend warrior duties for our nation.

 

(...but he STILL couldn't get into Disneyland with his long hair until about the year 1977 and when they finally relaxed The Magic Kingdom's stringent "grooming standards" required for admittance)  

 

;)

 

 

LMREO. That's good to know!!! :D

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I missed True Confession, which I had wanted to see because of the interesting cast.  I had seen a MacMurray-Lombard movie about a year ago, but don't remember the title, in which Lombard spent most of the movie on a cruise liner, initially doing a great Garbo imitation, and MacMurray played on the concertina (and maybe sax, too?), but can't recall the title.  I remember enjoying it, but can't remember the title.

 

I caught Murder, He Says, but didn't much care for it, despite the positive reviews.  I'm not much for hillbilly farce and actually found the character of the mentally "challenged" backwoods girl who was being slapped around to be extremely problematic.

 

I liked Suddenly It's Spring more than I expected to.  Paulette Goddard was so delightful and she had great chemistry both with MacMurray and with MacDonald Carey.  I was half-hoping she'd end up with him.  I wonder why he never went further in films, as he was quite a charming guy.

 

One movie I've always wanted to see --Trail of the Lonesome Pine partly because of the technicolor, but also because I just finished the book, which had some of the best nature writing I've ever read.  I'd be curious to see how close the film is to the book, as the main female character is quite young, really a child or young teen-ager, when she first meets the hero, who is played by MacMurray.  I'm surprised it's not being shown by TCM because I guess it's one of the earliest successful uses of 3-strip technicoplor.

 

 

TCM has shown Trail of the Lonesome Pine (isnt Sylvia Sidney in it? If not, I have my movies mixed up) but I dont recall it being on for a long time. Another star sadly lacking on TCM (Sylvia)....

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TB have you ever seen a film called TAKE A LETTER DARLING starring Fred MacMurrary and Rosiland Russell? Directed by Mitchell Leisen in 1943, Roz plays a advertising exec who hires Fred as her secretary. A few days ago I watched the documentary FOREVER MAME on Amazon Prime. Roz was quite the lady with a loving son and a thirty five year marriage to Freddie Brisson. When the movie roles were drying up, she went to Broadway winning two Tony`s for the musical WONDERFUL TOWN and the comedy AUNTIE MAME.

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