Any Gary Cooper Fans?

[MissGoddess]

Yes, Grace was nothing compared to Katy Jurado's character, poor thing. Maybe that's why it was so easy for Will Kane to wait for Frank Miller instead of going on his honeymoon.

[CoopfanDan]

"I'm planning on recording Random Harvest tonight since you and Theresa have raved about and I'm looking forward to watching it. I aslo saw Ronald Colman in Talk of the Town at the Paramount this summer which is a light hearted romantic comedy and he was very good in it."

Random Harvest is a very serious love story. I don't think you will get even one laugh out of it.

[coopsgirl]

*I just focus on gary. its not like i dont do that with all his others anyway. heehee!*

 

That's always a good plan! I realize a lot of the times even when other people are talking I'm still watching him and not just b/c he's so easy on the eyes (ha!), but also to see his reaction to the other actors in the scene b/c he's always doing something either with a facial expression or subtle body language. He's just does so many little things that make his characters seem like real people and while there are a lot of other good actors out there, I just don't notice many others doing things like that.

[coopsgirl]

I hope *Random Harvest* doesn't make me cry too much. I'll probably watch it with my mom b/c I imagine she'll like it and I just hate to cry in front of people. I remember the first time I was watching *Pride of the Yankees*. My mom was upstairs working in her office and it got to the farewell speech and I started crying. I was thinking to myself I was glad I was alone then before that scene was over she got finished and came downstairs. She asked me how the movie was and I was so choked up I could barely say anything.

[butterscotchgreer]

well i dont think youll cry that much over Random Harvest angie, but youll defintely cry a little, esp at the end, b/c it has such a gogeous ending!!!! i remember the first time i saw pride of the yankees too. but my mother was in the living room too when i was watching it, and even she started to cry. thats when she tld me that she didnt want to see that movie any more,b/c she hates sappy movies that make you cry that much. i was balling my eyes out and like you angie, i could barely say even one word. my grandmama also loves that movie and she called me right after it was over on TCM and she asked me how i liked it, but i couldnt quite getthe words out of my mouth, i was still trying to stop crying, but i kept thinking about it over and over again, so i kept on crying. goodness me!!

[coopsgirl]

Yep, *Pride of the Yankees* gets me every time. Most baseball movies get me pretty choked up though, I'm just a sucker for 'em. Well the *Major League* movies don't b/c they're funny but both versions of *Angels in the Outfield*, *Field of Dreams*, *For Love of the Game*, *The Rookie*, and *Fever Pitch* (even though it's mostly funny) really get to me. I've got a dvd about the Astros 2005 season when we made it to world series for the first time after one of the worst starts in franchise history and every time I watch it I'm just about in tears by the time we win the pennant.

[butterscotchgreer]

aaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwww!! i get choked up with both version of angels in the outfield too, and i love watching the sandlot too. that is a cute one.

[CoopsGal]

I love wacky, obsessive women. Well, at least the ones who don't stalk Brad Ausmus.

 

 

So women who stalk and obsess over men who are no longer living is fine?

 

 

......That's a double strike against ya', Angie, you're having no luck, lol.

 

 

[coopsgirl]

*So women who stalk and obsess over men who are no longer living is fine?

 

......That's a double strike against ya', Angie, you're having no luck, lol.*

 

I stalk both the dead and the living (ha!). I think that should only be one strike against me!!

[CoopsGal]

Can you imagine how bad we would be if Gary was still around (evil laugh!!!)?

 

 

You know, I've thought about this many times and I'm almost convinced that we'd be locked up in tiny little rooms with an automated voice that constantly asks over the loud speaker: "Who's Gary Cooper?"

 

 

Though it would be somewhat amusing to see how he'd react if he saw a group of women running toward him with drool leaking from their mouths.

 

 

"I feel fine; it was a nice day yesterday, it's a nice day today, it'll be a nice day tomorrow. I feel fine, I feel fine, I feel very fine."

[CoopsGal]

I stalk both the dead and the living (ha!). I think that should only be one strike against me!!

 

 

It evens out, lol.

[coopsgirl]

*Though it would be somewhat amusing to see how he'd react if he saw a group of women running toward him with drool leaking from their mouths.*

 

Something tells me he wouldn't put up much of a fight against us

[butterscotchgreer]

you two are cracking me up to pieces!! heehee!

 

you know what i think? i think we three would get extremely jealous if we saw a large cword of women running toward him. ill tell you what i think we would do. we would run faster toward him first and be grabbing his arm telling him to run away from them. that way, we would save him, and he would be grateful for us, and who knows what would happen...asking out on a date. okay so im overexaggerating it, but hey, what did yu expect? heehee!

[CoopfanDan]

On my posted Gary Cooper movie A Man from Wyoming Part 4 a woman just posted a comment that I thought was kind of neat and looks like he won over another convert.

 

"Gary Cooper is scrumptious. Totally. It's something to study--how does a guy project such sweetness and strength at the same time?"

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnSEQRss5oI#GU5U2spHI_4

[coopsgirl]

That's a good comment! Man I just realized that I missed Random Harvest. I got caught up in the Astros game (we're actually winning) and the movie started 40 minutes ago. It doesn't look like it's scheduled again anytime soon. I'll have to either buy it or just try to catch it later.

[ScuttlingCrab]

MissGoddess, I was reading through these comments and saw you talking about 3:10 to Yuma. "I mean entire towns were portrayed this way---mine workers, farmer, Indians, townfolk, Everyone! Basically, the director is saying everyone out west in those days was absolute trash who'd shoot you down for a quarter."

 

Exactly. It's about impossible odds in a world that has become totally corrupt. In other words, it's about today, not necessarily then. We live in a world where every value except the CHRISTIAN values is respected -- pagan, Indian, Japanese, Hindu, Jewish, all in sort of a witches' broth that is really nothing more than the worship of money. Everyone is taking the easy way out and pretending that nothing is wrong, ignoring the complete moral downfall of civilization.

 

I was shocked by 3:10 to Yuma. It's the culmination of Westerns -- it takes the High Noon template to a metaphysical level. Think of the names of the two stars. Christian vs. Crowe.

Like The Departed, it has a good man under severe stress going up against a Lucifer figure, who EVERYONE is attracted to but him. Since this is Lucifer's world, he wins, but he respects the pluck of the martyred Christian. The movie shows how losing in this world is really winning. It's the story of Christ, basically.

[CoopfanDan]

On the non-cooper related Random Harvest movie that was just on:

 

Angie so sorry to here you missed it. I watched it for the third time and it was actually the saddest time for me watching it as I knew so well on every scene that was going to come up and the little things early on that would mean so much later on to the story. I swear it is the most touching movie in movie history. Robert Osboune in his opening intro gave it I think the highest praise I have heard him give a movie in a long while. It sounded like it was one of his all time favorites as it is mine. I would certainly consider getting it on dvd. I know I had a recorded version of it but thought so much of it after watching it, I went out and bought the dvd without hesitation for the better picture quality and just to have it on dvd before it went out of print or something.

[FrankGrimes]

J.R. Towles' Girl -- I see you read my post in the 'Lucy was a B movie star' thread. If it was just about anybody else I would have let it go but people can't go around insulting Lucille Ball and expect to get away with it.

 

So, did you ever think you may have a stalker? Actually, I just follow the Cooper dust you leave behind.

 

I never saw Coop's Grunge Girl speak so forcifully before. That wasn't Donna Reed defending Lucy. And you took down poor Marlene in the process. I found it to be entertaining. You can let go of Marlene's neck now.

 

Trust me I'm not nearly as bad as a couple other women in my Ausmus yahoo group. One of them works at her local TV station in Columbus, OH (as an editor so she's not an on air personality) and she used her media credentials to actually get an interview with him during a game when they were in her neck of the woods. Thing is, she and her friend were staying in the same hotel with the team and the day before the interview they saw him in the lobby and got his autograph and pics with him (even though they already had done this several times as well in the past). Then after the interview was over the next day he very politely said 'Nice to see you girls again.' They thought they were done for but he just smiled and left the room after having given them a very good interview which they posted at our group.

 

Oh, I get it. You're throwing one of your fellow Ausmus groupies under the bus just so that you don't come off nearly as stalky. Bad girl.

 

Love the story. I can definitely envision the ladies in this thread using the same kind of tricks with Coop. I think he'd like it just as much as Sugarbritches does, too.

 

You can put me up there and have Torgo put his famous moves on me and I still don't think I'd be able to finish it (The Fountainhead)!!!

 

Torgo told me he's very fond of certain blouses.

 

I'll give you credit for one thing, at least you've watched about 75% of *The Fountainhead*. I know other ladies who watch about five minutes of a film, call it "talk, talk, talk", and then shut it off. They shall remain nameless.

 

I stalk both the dead and the living (ha!). I think that should only be one strike against me!!

 

Now you're starting to sound like BronxGirl. Of course, that's a very good thing.

 

ButterSkirtGreer -- yes frank ill watch myself, but i love mixing movies of genre sometimes, i dont know why. heehee! sometimes ill be in the mood to cry heavily to Pride of the Yankees and then half an hour later after i fully recover from crying to that one, ill watch Julia Misbehaves or some funny romantic movie. heehee!

 

So you actually get in the mood to cry? Well, that's interesting. So what Gary films make you cry the most?

 

im sorry but i just died of boredon when i watched grace kelly in High Noon. she was just so.....drab to say the least. i mean they were having an affair in real life, at least she could look a little bit excited when kissing or even standing aside gary. i kept yelling at the screen saying, come on woman! show some expression!" but i really do love this movie, i just dont pay attention to grace, i just focus on gary. its not like i dont do that with all his others anyway. heehee!

 

I see we have another bad girl on our hands. You better ask sis' about Torgo.

 

Miss Doesn't Finish Films -- I won't say anything more about 2001:A Space Odyssey or I'll get into trouble.

 

Trouble? Nahhh. You're the one with the wet noodle.

 

Back to Coop----Frank, you teased us about giving us your thoughts on the Coop/Kelly pairing in High Noon . Don't hold out any longer, my inner Pandora is dying of curiosity.

 

I'll have to extend the tease. I'm on fumes. Maybe this weekend.

 

Mrs. Cooper -- So women who stalk and obsess over men who are no longer living is fine?

 

Yeah, I think so. Less of a threat to the male ego.

 

And don't believe Miss G and her "modest" comment about me. I'm gonna have to pass the modesty buck back to her. She's seen many more noirs than I have. Plus, she looks at noir with female sensibilities in mind. Bottom line is, you'll have quite a few people to talk to about noir around here.

 

By the way, you have a terrific sense of humor.

 

Hopefully, I will bring some real Cooper talk to the table the next time I'm in town.

[coopsgirl]

I hate that I missed *Random Harvest* but that was one of the best games the 'stros have played all year. We beat the Cardinals (our biggest rival) 18-1!!! I have been watching (not stalking - ha!) Towles for a couple years in the minors and was very excited when he got called up this month. So far he has not disappointed as he set a new club record for most RBIs in a game with 8 and notched his first major league homer. Okay enough baseball talk

 

*I never saw Coop's Grunge Girl speak so forcifully before. That wasn't Donna Reed defending Lucy. And you took down poor Marlene in the process. I found it to be entertaining. You can let go of Marlene's neck now.*

 

Maybe I came off too mean in that post but it just made me so mad that they were saying b/c Lucy was a tv actress that she wasn't as good as movie actresses. You can't really compare the too in my mind and I thought it was unfair. I don't like knocking one person down to build up another and that's not what I was trying to do with Marlene/Lucy. I thought Marlene actually did a good job in *Desire* with Gary but I really have no desire (no pun intended) to see any of her non-Gary films. That said, I do like what she did to help Jews in the entertainment industry escape the Nazis during the war. I always like it when celebrities use their fame and resources to help others and while I may not like their work, I can respect for the other good things they do.

[MissGoddess]

>>>MissGoddess, I was reading through these comments and saw you talking about 3:10 to Yuma. "I mean entire towns were portrayed this way---mine workers, farmer, Indians, townfolk, Everyone! Basically, the director is saying everyone out west in those days was absolute trash who'd shoot you down for a quarter."

 

Exactly. It's about impossible odds in a world that has become totally corrupt. In other words, it's about today, not necessarily then. We live in a world where every value except the CHRISTIAN values is respected -- pagan, Indian, Japanese, Hindu, Jewish, all in sort of a witches' broth that is really nothing more than the worship of money. Everyone is taking the easy way out and pretending that nothing is wrong, ignoring the complete moral downfall of civilization.

 

I was shocked by 3:10 to Yuma. It's the culmination of Westerns -- it takes the High Noon template to a metaphysical level. Think of the names of the two stars. Christian vs. Crowe.

Like The Departed, it has a good man under severe stress going up against a Lucifer figure, who EVERYONE is attracted to but him. Since this is Lucifer's world, he wins, but he respects the pluck of the martyred Christian. The movie shows how losing in this world is really winning. It's the story of Christ, basically.<<<

 

Wow, ScuttlingCrab, I have to admit I had *not* thought of 3:10 to Yuma that way at all, but you do bring up some very intriguing points! And I agree at least with the first part of your post, and the reflections on current values, which are down the drain. Hmmmm. Very interesting, thank you for your comments.

[MissGoddess]

>>>Robert Osboune in his opening intro gave it I think the highest praise I have heard him give a movie in a long while.<<<

 

I didn't watch it this time but I did catch Osbourne's introduction and was happy he said what he did about it. I was NOT happy to see the stupid TimeWarner Cable digital guide give it only three stars out of four----what????? This is definitely, absolutely, positively a four-star movie.

 

Angie, I wouldn't say this about many movies, but if you buy it you won't go wrong.

[MissGoddess]

>>>I'll give you credit for one thing, at least you've watched about 75% of The Fountainhead. I know other ladies who watch about five minutes of a film, call it "talk, talk, talk", and then shut it off. They shall remain nameless.<<<

 

Angie, what are we going to do with this guy?

[coopsgirl]

*Angie, what are we going to do with this guy?*

 

I don't know? We could use that new fangled ignore button. Just kidding, just kidding

 

I've never heard anyone say a single bad thing about *Random Harvest*. It's not in the schedule again through the end of the year so I will most likely buy it at some point in the not too distant future. I had the dvd labelled, in the recorder and ready to go but I got so caught up in the game that it just completely slipped my mind. I think my eyes got as big as saucers when around 9 (half an hour after it started) I remembered it.

[MissGoddess]

Hee! I guess we'll just keep the wet noodle handy.

 

Angie---just FYI, in November deepdiscount.com has a sale that offers 20% off all their dvds, and they don't charge shipping, so if you want to wait until then to get RH, you might be able to pick it up for less than $10.

 

I just wish they had put a bunch of extras into the dvd---the movie is worthy of it. Actually, I've been meaning to get around to finding the James Hilton book---I love to read books that movies I enjoyed are based on, sometimes I've stumbled on some real gems that way.

[coopsgirl]

I love deep discount and I'll keep that in mind, thanks!

 

I've done the same thing with seeing a movie and then reading the book it was based on. I saw the newer Ralph Fiennes/Juliet Binoche version of *Wuthering Heights* several years ago and just loved it. I read the book and it was great. That version I saw too is also very faithful to the story. I did the same with *The Woman in White* too. I like the classic movie version (which will air on TCM in Decmeber - yay!) but my fave is a newer version I saw on PBS several years ago. I read the book right after that and it's one of my faves.

 

I have a copy of *The Virginian* but haven't read it yet. I'll get around to it one of these days. I would also love to read *Peter Ibbetson* since that was such a great movie. I found that book at www.alibris.com. It's a great place for finding out of print or rare books.